1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals

[Myriad]

Uhhh yeah it must be the frustration or something like that

Like I said, such frustration is completely justified and understandable. Don't let it worry you.

But we can conclude, you can not show what the 200 "experts" did , in fact i even doubt you know something about the tasks they got from the leading team.

So you are asking articles, but you can not even show them from the NIST experts.

So whats your point then?

My point is that the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t have not done any architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth. The question, which you are clearly making every effort to avoid answering, is why you think that is the case.

Do you have a theory? Why have the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t not done any architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth?

Are they bribed? Are they in on it? Are they incompetent? What's your theory?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[ergo]

Doesn't that make the lack of any effective action by AE911t even harder to explain? What is your explanation for that, by the way?

Lack of effective action? You mean like the extensive lecture tours, media appearances and other awareness-raising events that they are involved in every day of the year? That lack of effective action?

Now you have to explain not only 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals who refuse to do any professional-quality architecture or engineering work to support their own cause....

It really is as if bedunkers really can't read or something. Amazing.

Oh, well. I guess that's what makes them bedunkers.

 

[Myriad]

Be patient, Myriad. After that giant "inside job" sign on the moon is finished, they will come to the JREF forum and finally hit you over the head with it. It's already a bit of a running joke that "a myriad" of people can't see it. The ritualized answer is "so what? think of the environment".

If I'm patient, will the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t eventually do some professional-quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth? When do you think that will happen?

If they have the capability to make a convincing case to their fellow professionals (which is what I assume your "writing on the moon" metaphor refers to), then why is all the patience even needed? Why haven't they already done it?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Marokkaan]

Like I said, such frustration is completely justified and understandable. Don't let it worry you.




My point is that the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t have not done any architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth. The question, which you are clearly making every effort to avoid answering, is why you think that is the case.

Do you have a theory? Why have the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t not done any architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth?

Are they bribed? Are they in on it? Are they incompetent? What's your theory?

Respectfully,
Myriad

Ok lets say, "you are right". So whats your point. Why is that important.

I will say the same to you about the NIST experts.

So i dont still get your point, you are contradicting yourselve...

 

[Myriad]

Ow my.. you didnt even clicked on the link...

No, I didn't. And the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t didn't do any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth.

Which is more important, my clicking a link or the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t supporting Gage's theories with professional quality analysis based on the established principles of structural engineering? After you've pointed out that I didn't click your link, do you plan to go to the AE911t site and point out that they haven't used their architectural and engineering expertise to accomplish anything?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Marokkaan]

No, I didn't. And the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t didn't do any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth.

Which is more important, my clicking a link or the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t supporting Gage's theories with professional quality analysis based on the established principles of structural engineering? After you've pointed out that I didn't click your link, do you plan to go to the AE911t site and point out that they haven't used their architectural and engineering expertise to accomplish anything?

Respectfully,
Myriad

Good luck with debating someone else, i can not debate with somebody else who has trouble with cognitive dissonance and wishful thinking

 

[Myriad]

Lack of effective action? You mean like the extensive lecture tours, media appearances and other awareness-raising events that they are involved in every day of the year? That lack of effective action?

Yes, Gage going on junkets at your expense and releasing press releases that nobody reports in the press are exactly what I mean by lack of effective action.

Even if they were effective, it's hardly a good use of the expertise of 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals. Wouldn't your case be stronger if the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals did some engineering instead?

Actual effective action would be to get the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t to do some professional quality architectural or engineering work to present a technical case that will convince their peers that Gage's theories have merit. Why haven't they done that?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[ergo]

No, I didn't.

That's how 9/11 bedunkery works, Marrokaan. If they clicked on links, they wouldn't be able to deny the existence of professional articles explaining why the official WTC collapse explanations are utter bunk.

Scott Sommers went for a really long time not even clicking on the AETruth link, so he could continue to claim that absolutely zero professionals in the field support the AETruth petition.

It's sort of a primitive method of outright denial, but it works well for them. As long as they don't go anywhere outside of JREF.

 

[tsig]

And jep another debunker who's interfering and goes on ignore.

A normal debate, here on jref is impossible.

The only thing you can do, is show the facts and the opinions of expert.

It is hard to argue when you place your opponents on ignore.

 

[Childlike Empress]

If I'm patient, will the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t eventually do some professional-quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth? When do you think that will happen?

If they have the capability to make a convincing case to their fellow professionals (which is what I assume your "writing on the moon" metaphor refers to), then why is all the patience even needed? Why haven't they already done it?

Respectfully,
Myriad

You aren't a fellow professional and that giant structure on the moon is not build for them. It's a gimmick to alert third rate poets who sit on their butts running their mouths on pseudo-skeptical internet forums, and i'm not sure if enough resources will be available to finish that pet project. But they try.

 

[ergo]

Even if they were effective, it's hardly a good use of the expertise of 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals. Wouldn't your case be stronger if the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals did some engineering instead?

I believe many of them do. It's called a "job".

 

[Marokkaan]

That's how 9/11 bedunkery works, Marrokaan. If they clicked on links, they wouldn't be able to deny the existence of professional articles explaining why the official WTC collapse explanations are utter bunk.

Scott Sommers went for a really long time not even clicking on the AETruth link, so he could continue to claim that absolutely zero professionals in the field support the AETruth petition.

It's sort of a primitive method of outright denial, but it works well for them. As long as they don't go anywhere outside of JREF.

I think the most of the debunkers do not even read the "truther stuff"

They could start with reading the 9/11 journal of studies.

But its shocking if people do not even want to look at a link, when they are asking for it,

 

[Myriad]

Ok lets say, "you are right". So whats your point. Why is that important.

My point was to ask your opinion on why the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t haven't done, and apparently arent't doing, any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth.

Are they in on it? Are they incompetent? Are they paid off (and by whom)?

It's very hard to understand. It's as if there were a man having a heart attack at a medical convention with 1,600 verified doctors and medical care professionals, and they all stand around watching, doing nothing. Why?

So i dont still get your point, you are contradicting yourselve...

I've repeated the point above. Maybe you'll get it this time. Please point out anywhere I've contradicted myself.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Marokkaan]

My point was to ask your opinion on why the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t haven't done, and apparently arent't doing, any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth.

Are they in on it? Are they incompetent? Are they paid off (and by whom)?It's very hard to understand. It's as if there were a man having a heart attack at a medical convention with 1,600 verified doctors and medical care professionals, and they all stand around watching, doing nothing. Why?




I've repeated the point above. Maybe you'll get it this time. Please point out anywhere I've contradicted myself.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Lets say they are paid off or the illuminati are watching on them . So?

Now im going to ask you, why you can not show the work of each individual of the 200 experts

Are they incompetent? Are they paid off (and by whom)?

Ofcourse you dont see the contradicting point, you do not even want to see a link. Lol

 

[Myriad]

You aren't a fellow professional and that giant structure on the moon is not build for them. It's a gimmick to alert third rate poets who sit on their butts running their mouths on pseudo-skeptical internet forums, and i'm not sure if enough resources will be available to finish that pet project. But they try.

But I would be far more easily convinced if I saw them convincing their fellow professionals first. Structural engineering applies rigorous principles in a rigorous way; a sound and thorough engineering argument is thoroughly convincing to fellow professionals. (However, unsound or incomplete ones such as the ones in the "link" some have been ranting about, are easily detected and rejected, as those have been.)

Which brings me back to the question, why haven't the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t done any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth? Why are you fantasizing about writing on the moon instead of fantasizing about all those qualified professional engineers doing some quality professional engineering?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[beachnut]

It must be really frustrating, to have 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals all signed up, but not using their engineering and architecture expertise to write any technical papers in support of 9/11 truth.

Do you think Gage could be paying them off, to make them not submit any papers for peer review? What else could explain their lack of involvement?

Respectfully,
Myriad

The 1600 failed to research 911. The only action they took, signing Gage's petition. They all were capable at one time of exposing Gage's scam, but have taken the do nothing effort of signing, the lazy let Gage do my thinking for me, agree, sign and remain in idle ignorance.

 

[ergo]

(However, unsound or incomplete ones such as the ones in the "link" some have been ranting about, are easily detected and rejected, as those have been.)

But you didn't look at it, right? As long as you didn't look at it, you're okay...

 

[Childlike Empress]

But I would be far more easily convinced if I saw them convincing their fellow professionals first. Structural engineering applies rigorous principles in a rigorous way; a sound and thorough engineering argument is thoroughly convincing to fellow professionals. (However, unsound or incomplete ones such as the ones in the "link" some have been ranting about, are easily detected and rejected, as those have been.)

Which brings me back to the question, why haven't the 1,600 verified architectural and engineering professionals of AE911t done any professional quality architectural or engineering work to support Gage's theories or the cause of 9/11 Truth? Why are you fantasizing about writing on the moon instead of fantasizing about all those qualified professional engineers doing some quality professional engineering?

Respectfully,
Myriad

That sign IS professional engineering. What would you prefer, rebuilding the towers and fly planes into them?

 

[uke2se]

Lets say they are paid off or the illuminati are watching on them . So?

So, the 1600 "professionals" who were brave enough to sign Gage's petition despite the fact that more than 99.9% of the world's egineering and architectural professionals wouldn't (presumably because they were 1) payed off or 2) worried about losing their jobs) are now actually payed off to not do any actual work, but to keep their name on the petition.

Someone should experiment on your brain, Marokkaan. It would be good for humanity to see what went wrong.

 

[Marokkaan]

But you didn't look at it, right? As long as you didn't look at it, you're okay...

lol