1,3 diphenylpropane

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Back in 2003, the scientist from the EPA revealed

One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done," Swartz said. He said it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers.
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http://timesunion.com/AspStories/st...ategory=SEP11&BCCode=SEP11&newsdate=7/15/2006


However, by 2005, 1,3 diphenylpropane was nowhere to be found in this official report.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/508OF05-1165.html#heading08

Gravy has promised to explain this, perhaps the rest of you can help him. My conspiritorial mind thinks the information has been cleansed.
 
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ok, lets assume the info has been purged

what does it mean?

what is diphenylpropane evidence of?
 
Science gentlemen. Science. 1,3 diphenylpropane. Was it in the dust in quantities that dwarfed all others, or not? If it was, did it come from 10's of thousands of burning computers"? I don't know, but I'm getting suspicious. Why would the government cleanse it if it was there innocently?
 
gravy already explained it to you, read what he linked in his first reply

but, again, assuming it wasnt there innocently, what is it guilty of?

you arent even making accusations anymore, your just saying "hes guilty, he did something, i dont know what he did or it was illegal, but hes definately guilty"
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Back in 2003, the scientist from the EPA revealed


http://timesunion.com/AspStories/st...ategory=SEP11&BCCode=SEP11&newsdate=7/15/2006


However, by 2005, 1,3 diphenylpropane was nowhere to be found in this official report.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/508OF05-1165.html#heading08

Gravy has promised to explain this, perhaps the rest of you can help him. My conspiritorial mind thinks the information has been cleansed.
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Okay, what am I missing? The 2003 article was on particles in the air right after the collapse of the towers. The 2005 article was about dust that had settled in nearby buildings that was still present four years after the attacks.

Is there any reason to believe that this chemical from the burning plastic would have remained in the dust? Maybe it's the kind of thing that is so light it separates and floats away. Maybe it's the kind of chemical that is so heavy, it falls and washes away with the first rain. Maybe it degrades over time. Maybe it was destroyed by other WTC chemical compounds.

Unless you can tell me that this is the type of compound that definistely would have settled and mixed into the dust that got trapped in nearby office buildings, I don't know what the heck you're going on about.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Science gentlemen. Science. 1,3 diphenylpropane. Was it in the dust in quantities that dwarfed all others, or not? If it was, did it come from 10's of thousands of burning computers"? I don't know, but I'm getting suspicious. Why would the government cleanse it if it was there innocently?
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Not only did Gravy explain why it isn't in the report you posted, but Kent1 posted the report that it DOES APPEAR IN:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1956979#post1956979
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It's in this one. LOL!
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/esthag/2003/37/i16/abs/es030356l.htmlhttp://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/esthag/2003/37/i16/abs/es030356l.html

In addition, the compound 1,3-diphenylpropane- [ 1',1'-(1,3-propanediyl)bis-benzene] was observed, and to our knowledge, this species has not previously been reported from ambient sampling. It has been associated with polystyrene and other plastics, which are in abundance at the WTC site. These emissions lasted for at least 3 weeks (September 26-October 21, 2001) after the initial destruction of the WTC
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Please, TS, open up your head and pour your knowledge into our waiting hands.

Do you even know where this 1,3-diphenylpropane comes from? Do you even know what it is? What the hell does it have to do with a planned demolition? Or are you just blindly grasping at whatever random bullsh:rolleyes:t you can think of now?

You know, on second thought, when you open up your head, try putting something, anything, in there.
 
Yes, you're right. I don't know why I thought the 2003 was on the dust. Your'e right, it's on the air. I stand corrected. No cleasing here. For a moment I thought it was like the Novemeber 29 New York Times article the "Steel Members Partly Evaporated" article that was indeed cleansed.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Back in 2003, the scientist from the EPA revealed


http://timesunion.com/AspStories/st...ategory=SEP11&BCCode=SEP11&newsdate=7/15/2006


However, by 2005, 1,3 diphenylpropane was nowhere to be found in this official report.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/508OF05-1165.html#heading08

Gravy has promised to explain this, perhaps the rest of you can help him. My conspiritorial mind thinks the information has been cleansed.
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Gravy did explain this, as he linked. But I will be more than happy to help my fellow rational observer.

The news story you linked discusses volatile chemical compounds found in the atmosphere. The USGS report concerns solid particulates found afterwards. There is no reason for the USGS report to discuss volatiles, as they would not be found in their analysis.

Do you understand the difference between volatiles and particulates? Your friend Killtown did not.

Likewise, the USGS report does not tally up deaths and injuries, falling property values, or parking spaces lost to the attacks -- they are outside the scope of the report. Surely, even you with your "conspiritorial mind" can see that this is not due to "cleansing."

In the future, I would advise you to read the things you link, rather than assume you know what they contain. This is not the first time you have been dead wrong about your sources.

ETA: Thank you for admitting your error, our posts crossed. However, regarding "evaporating steel," there is no cleansing, indeed no evaporating of steel, and we have addressed that topic as well, separately.
 
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Let me guess... you're getting this from that that so called "Dr." Jones (Quack Jones is a more apt description of him.)

This came up on DU in late Aug when a conspiraloon brought up this document by him as "proof" that his thermite delusions were correct. What's funny is that this disscusion thread died in a few days after the true skeptics ripped the report to shreds over a 24 hrs period.:clap:

Not only was his chemical analysis was found to be flawed (for instance 1,3 diphenylpropane turns out to be a combustion product from PVC - short for polyvinyl chloride - plastic, one of the most widely used varieties of plastics out there,) but it was also found that he had been altering the report he had presented on 7/18; it started out at 189 pages on 9/22, but by 9/25 had expanded to 205 pages (at last check it stood at 204 pages.)

With stuff like this, no wonder BYU put him on leave (they should have fired him...)
 
carlvs said:
Let me guess... you're getting this from that that so called "Dr." Jones (Quack Jones is a more apt description of him.)

..... but it was also found that he had been altering the report he had presented on 7/18; it started out at 189 pages on 9/22, but by 9/25 had expanded to 205 pages (at last check it stood at 204 pages.)

With stuff like this, no wonder BYU put him on leave (they should have fired him...)
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What???? Gasp! Are you saying someone cleansed the work of Alex Jones. TS1234 - where did that extra page go to? Clearly it's observable that it must have been powderized by the NWO. :D
 
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