ground zero

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=559117&category=&BCCode=&newsdate=1/31/2007 I thought this was interesting. I am sure that it will be rushed away to hide the thermite residue though:rolleyes:

One of my outdoor recreational forums just got hit with this crap. Supposed brand new evidence. The firefighter video is heavily edited, no doubt taken out of context. The pop,pop video sounds fabricated. But maybe the sound of floors collapsing can make that sound as well. Here it is...

OK, I have finally composed myself after watching a few Ground Zero clips. Until recently I had a mental image of Ground Zero as a quiet place of reflection, where people come to pay their respects to the lives lost there, regardless of their beliefs about the day itself. I'm not American, and...

911 Blogger has some video up of the truthers at Ground Zero. It is mostly of Gravy (if that is your real name) and then of them harassing a tv news crew. Mark, you look great, but as a longtime Husky you really need to lose the Cal hat. :D http://911blogger.com/node/4688

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/remains-of-three-from-911-plane/20061102063809990002?ncid=NWS00010000000001 According to the article there are still 40% of the remains to be identified. It also helps explain how the ID are done, and why it's taking so long. So the CTers might be interested.

911 Conspiracy Wars: Nutters at Ground Zero I just saw it. Loved it. Now, if I were a pig I'd ask you to tell me more about losing your virginity. :D Well, actually, I am a pig but I don't want to appear too creepy so I'll skip that. Hey, good job, it was damn funny and you did a great job...

Has anyone explained the mysterious burns of these cars? Some are "fused" and welded. In., one case the front half is burned and the back untouched. "WMD at the WTC" claims its proof of thermonuclear devices, but I hasten to add I dont agree with that. Pictures from Judy Woods new...

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/workers-uncover-more-human-remains-at/20061021220909990002?ncid=NWS00010000000001 Another example of how widespread the damage is. I don't envy the coroners. Hopefully this will bring closure to some of the families.

This is being created at pdoherty's request to debate one on one with Gravy. First topic up is "Operation Northwoods". In keeping with the tradition of the JREF forums, it would be appreciated if others refrain from posting on this thread as it is specifically for the one on one debate as...

Hey everyone! I was thinking a bit about how I've never actually been able to go down and help with the good some of you guys do in New York, when I got to wondering about it, specifically about the some of the "literature" that's passed around. I remember reading something about there being a...

Ok, one of the things CT enthusiasts seem to go on and on about is molten metal found under the debris weeks after the collapse. What exactly is this supposed to prove? If we were to go along with the controlled demolition theory, how would molten metal support this conclusion?

This is perhaps the easiest project EVAR. First 3 minutes of it. Not sure if I will continue on with this though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnNHzYQp7w

I just found out that one of the dumber of the people who goes to GZ on Saturdays has a blog about his experiences. http://fredstruth.blogspot.com My comments in brackets. I can tell you this: when we confront his b.s., he really does not like it. The last time I sternly corrected him in front...

Haven't watched the whole thing, but if you wanna see Gravy at Ground Zero (myself and Reality Bites are in there too). Check out Part 3B of LTW's We Love Ourselves series. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820426888499996890 Edit: 40 minutes in, Jason Bermas tells me that the...

Disclaimer: I'm not sure if this is appropriate for the "conspiracy theory" forum, but being that the issue revolves around one, I've decided to post it here. Feel free to move the thread if need be. Shortly after the anniversary, a good friend of mine stated her belief that Ground Zero was...

What a strange day it was at Ground Zero yesterday. Surreal, almost. realitybites, Abby and I were there as usual. It's Abby's birthday today! :hbd: Abby's mom, AKA The Cutest Little Debunking Mom Ever, was also there, and got to hear hours of insanity. No fair bringing your mom to the fight...

Some photos from Monday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyctours/sets/ I'm still so sickened by the despicable denialist behavior at Ground Zero that I don't feel like writing about it, but It's high time I got to the positive stuff, and I feel overwhelmingly positive about our presence there...

Read it all at Little Green Footballs.

Mayor Nagin caught some flack a couple weeks ago when he answered criticisim about New Orleans slow rebuilding buy pointing out that "hole in the ground" in New York. A little incensitive? Maybe. But is he wrong?? What is taking so long for a memorial and rebuilding. I occasionally see a...

Didn't want to hijack any other threads with this, but knew that you people would appreciate it. "What is your real name!" Ask Gravy about his run in with Alex Jones today. Some of the celeb truthers were downtown today with cameras for about 40 minutes to an hour tops. Good lord, the...

Anyone have any ideas on where would be a good place to meet up for anniversary? There's a bunch of construction going on down there and I really have no idea where the authorities are going to be putting the conspiracy crowd. I don't think there's going to be that many of us, so I was...

It's finished. Thank god. The short movie that details my experiences with the folks at Ground Zero (with apprearances by our own RealityBites and Gravy). http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4162315283354424113&hl=en Unfortunately, due to length and the fact that not everyone is as...

Interesting article on a collection of conspiracy theorists Maybe soon they'll come up with a unifying theory.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006791 This doesn't seem right to me. What should this memorial honor except the firemen, policemen and people who died that day?

There is a rather heated arguement on sci.skeptic going on right now that seems to involve some conspiracy nuts claiming that pools of "molten steel" were found at ground zero during the cleanup. Of course, evidence for this is sorely lacking: mostly bad reporters writing, second hand accounts...