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Maybe we should stop demanding that the people of Afghanistan choose OUR way of doing things. Maybe they want the Taliban. Or maybe they just don't give a ****.
And if THEY don't give a ****, why should we? Why should we fight for freedom for a people who don't want it, and surely not...
Seems like relevant topic. There's been some discussion in U.S.-focused political threads, but this goes beyond that. For example, the British are feeling in a bit of a lurch by the relatively rapid decision.
The U.S. and its allies are pulling out, Taliban advancing.
Taliban capture key...
The Washington Post recently won a three-year court battle to make public secret government documents about the war. This is being compared to the Pentagon Papers regarding the Vietnam war.
At war with the truth
The Afghanistan Papers A secret history of the war
You can think of at this...
BOOM
Never used before. One of the reasons why I thought Trump will be the lesser evil compared to Killary is that there will be resistance to further wars, including from his base, instead of just bending over like in the Obama years. So far it seems the only anti-war protests are literally...
From the New York Times
KABUL, Afghanistan — Eight soldiers with the American-led military coalition were killed Saturday, making it the bloodiest day this year for Western troops fighting here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/world/asia/blast-kills-7-soldiers-in-afghanistan.html?_r=0
I am...
After 2014, when supposedly the Afghan army is mostly trained and equipped to take over for leaving NATO forces, what are our goals?
I see basically one goal: Don't let the Taliban take over again.
After spending over $50 billion to train and equip the Afghan National Army, can we assume that...
I just heard a sound bite on the radio of Romney saying he's opposed to any timetable for withdrawal. I wish I could find the exact quote, but it sounded like his reasoning was that he didn't want our enemies to know even that we would leave ever.
I'm not sure what the logic to opposing a...
An American soldier has gone on a killing spree.
This is going to explode now. Right now.
ETA: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/world/asia/afghanistan-civilians-killed-american-soldier-held.html
i remember a time when i thought we were the 'good guys'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-south-asia-13589193
Afghan President Hamid Karzai has forcefully condemned the killing of 14 civilians in the south-west of the country in a suspected Nato air strike.
Mr Karzai said his government...
The CIA and the IDF are using mind controlling techniques to pressure lawmakers into invading Iran and North Africa in addition to increasing military budgets. This in collaboration with zionist plans on world domination will lead to the eventual WW3.
Apparently the special operations team...
MP Stands for Multipurpose
What happens when you ask soldiers in Afghanistan to be diplomats?
Oops. That'll get him in trouble.
Fortunately it looks like they have finally realized the futility of this project and are making preparations to end it.
I have many gripes with modernity, one of which is the completely fictional nature of modern war reporting. A particular nadir for me was a supposed bayonet charge by British troops in Southern Iraq. There have been some completely ridiculous stories of the Australian army in Afghanistan - I...
Afghan War, Afghan Holocaust & Afghan Genocide 9th Anniversary - 4.9 million dead, 3.
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article20259
from the article:
The Afghan War has now entered its 10th year. It has become the longest US war. As of 7 October 2010, the 9th Anniversary of the US invasion of...
It has just been reported on BBC national radio that Linda Norgrove may have been killed by a grenade from US special forces rather than by a suicide bomb vest, as previously reported by the Usan military. Nato is reportedly carrying out an investigation.
If this is true then there are a number...
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-bob-woodwards-new-book-should-scare.html
I suggest Mr "we can absorb a terrorist attack" is still Stuck On Stupid. :D
And so is CBS:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017327-503544.html
:D
OK, I have thought about what happened with the document spill this week, and though I initially thought it might be a good thing to expose that collateral deaths were rather larger than reported to us, I have decided that a worse harm will likely result from this disclosure.
In the...
'...Petraeus suggested he would refine — or at least review — the implementation of rules under which NATO soldiers fight, including curbs on the use of airpower and heavy weapons if civilians are at risk, "to determine where refinements might be needed."
Some troops have complained that such...
The war in Afghanistan doesn't seem to be going very well, and now this:
Gen. Stanley McChrystal summoned to Washington following magazine profile
Who hasn't badmouthed their boss behind his back? In front of a reporter though?
I hate to bring up Vietnam again, but it seems like we have the...
Just like all those oil contracts in Iraq that were won by Russia and Norway, who played no part in the war.
Next up is news for truthers, who like to pretend that the US involvement in Afghanistan was all about its resources...
I have heard it mentioned on many an occasion that one of the reasons the US/UK went into Iraq (especially) and Afghanistan was natural resources - mainly oil in the case of Iraq. Some CTs claim that this is the main reason that the US Government allowed/engineered the Sep 11 attacks.
So given...
It seems to me that there are two lines of defence for the war in Afghanistan. One in which supporters stress the dreadful conditions of the women under the Taliban, and one in which they stress the threat posed by AQ under the Taliban. They are often used by the same supporter as...
Was listening to NPR on way to work today, and they mentioned how the Afghan military cannot match the pay of Taliban.
Made me look up a factoid. The average annual wage in the country is about $300 a year. Since the country has 12 million people, we could hire half the country for measly $1.8...
OkayI'll dare to broach the subject
Let's look at the advantages:
No troops necessary.
It drives home the point that they are NOT inaccessible.
It can be done anonymously by drone. The perpetrator could be us, Israel, India, Europe, Russia, Pakistan
It's what the great generals of WW2 would...
This thread is intended to focus on the question I originally posted here.
In short: I've been led to believe that a reason for going to war might be, that certain politically influential individuals benefit financially from it. Gumboot asked me to provide sources from which I've derived this...
Honestly, how likely is it that it is going to be forgotten?
What appears to be forgotten are the millions of lives that have been destroyed in the Middle East since, for no good reason, using the victims of 911 as an excuse.
Just as Brian Williams (NBC) on the ground in Afghanistan was about to break this breaking story yesterday afternoon, he was intrerrupted by more breaking news by Tom Brokaw (NBC News-NY) that Tim Russert suddenly died. The rest of the news cycle concerned itself with Tim's sad and tragically...
There is an old adage that says "He who chases two rabbits at once will catch neither."
This article (NY Times) and this video explain that the Taliban are having a resurgence in Afganistan, and are retaking territory that had previously been won.
If we didn't have most of our army occupied...
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