You won't believe this but a few lines later Voronin is also all of one leg*. Says he had to climb upstairs 'using only one leg', with his (broken-armed) son pushing him from behind and grandad pulling him by the hand, to the seventh deck. He even begs them to go without him. to which Vasya, for it is he, the son, declares, "I am not going to abandon you!". I say, Nelson writes some bloody good bathos.
Jack A. Nelson, Flashes in the Night, p. 211
Or possibly Mr Spigot.
It matters because it is a specific claim for which Vixen can either provide a citation or she can withdraw the claim and, with it, the implication she attempts to build on it. Remember, Vixen claims to only make statements that she can back up (much evidence to the contrary notwithstanding).
And where did he get the information?
Vassili. His name is Vassili.
Given the numerous typos I've seen reported in reviews of this book, I think an exact quote would be useful. For example, does the author actually *characterize* Voronin as morbidly obese, or does he just give a numerical weight? Because the latter could well turn out to be a typo. Perhaps he weighed 215 lbs, or 145 lbs. For that matter, why would he mention the guy's weight at all? What is the context? What's the point?Oh, Vixen, does that book have any suggestion that the cause of the sinking wasn't simply a combination of bad weather, poor maintenance and bad decisions?
Also, given more than one comment mentions typos, I'd want independent confirmation of that weight.
"There are tons of typos, spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors"
"First, the book is in desperate need of a [better] copy editor. In a journalistic book like this, one or two typos is forgivable, but twenty or so major typos is unacceptable."
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Vasya is a diminuitive. Alexandr might well have gone by "Sasha" as a kid.
Nelson does devote a chapter to the various controversies but the bulk of the book is the 'human interest' side, the survivors and their relatives. I thought it was a decent read. Didn't really notice spelling or grammatical errors; I've seen far worse. Although I think this might have been the author who thought Turku and Åbo were two different towns, not realising the latter is the Swedish name for the first. But he's American so can be forgiven these little slips. Getting interviews with Herenius, Barney and Voronin is quite a good catch for a journalist.Oh, Vixen, does that book have any suggestion that the cause of the sinking wasn't simply a combination of bad weather, poor maintenance and bad decisions?
Also, given more than one comment mentions typos, I'd want independent confirmation of that weight.
"There are tons of typos, spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors"
"First, the book is in desperate need of a [better] copy editor. In a journalistic book like this, one or two typos is forgivable, but twenty or so major typos is unacceptable."
Flashes in the Night: The Sinking of the Estonia
Flashes in the Night captures the tragic story of the s…
Fair enough, I didn't think of that.
Nelson writes, 'Alexander who weighed 245 pounds...' and earlier, 'A Russian giant with a heavy shock of graying [sic] hair and beard...' ''a heavy-shouldered bear of a man...'
Which does nothing to answer the question in the post you're replying to, of course.
Doesn't answer the question. The question is where did Nelson get that information from?
Remember, according to you he was about 34 at the time.
Going by BMI, pretty much any elite rugby player is clinically obese.
Ah, didnt notice. Vixen unable to cite correctly again...
That settles it; I'm going to start writing all my accident investigation reports from the perspective of two young lovers from now on.
Did the interview including putting Voronin on a set of scales?
