Plane Crash In DC

Hoover from Pilot Debrief had a few initial thoughts as well. All very preliminary and speculative, but he too suggests the possibility that the Blackhawk crew was watching the wrong aircraft, perhaps having lost their target against the background clutter of the city lights. I've been up at night in my friend's Beechcraft Baron, and I found the visual clutter of city lights very confusing.

 
Andy_Ross said:
REPORTER: Do you have any concerns that your commentary about things you described as common sense or your observations could in any way interfere with the thorough investigation of the crash?

TRUMP: No. I think they'll do an investigation and it'll probably come out the way I said it, I was right on all of it.
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Of course he'll be right about everything because this has been his plan from the first time he heard of the crash. He politicized the LA fires, and he politicized the pandemic, so it shouldn't be a surpise he's doing the same here. Whatever the NTSB/FAA finds, it will be spun to Trump's narrative.

He's scum like that.
 
Resume said:
Of course he'll be right about everything because this has been his plan from the first time he heard of the crash. He politicized the LA fires, and he politicized the pandemic, so it shouldn't be a surpise he's doing the same here. Whatever the NTSB/FAA finds, it will be spun to Trump's narrative.

He's scum like that.
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I can't help thinking about what I've read about the Chinese Cultural Revolution. In it, everything was politicized. Even purely scientific subjects, like quantum physics,had to answer for how they fit into the Chinese Communist ideology. And here we are, watching people judge a pandemic based on their questions of whether it's a liberal or a conservative virus, and drawing party lines around wildfires and plane crashes.
 
Something I wonder about is the result of seeing CNN's enhanced video of the actual midair collision. You can see the airliner falling into the Potomac in sections. The tail section seems to be severed from the rest of the aircraft but still intact. Based on details I've read about other incidents of airliners breaking up in midair, I wonder about the passengers seated in the tail section. Did any survive the collision and explosion? I have this mental image of someone seated in the tail section, conscious and fully aware of what was happening. What a terrible fate. I hope that didn't happen but I don't suppose we'll ever know.
 
newyorkguy said:
Something I wonder about is the result of seeing CNN's enhanced video of the actual midair collision. You can see the airliner falling into the Potomac in sections. The tail section seems to be severed from the rest of the aircraft but still intact. Based on details I've read about other incidents of airliners breaking up in midair, I wonder about the passengers seated in the tail section. Did any survive the collision and explosion? I have this mental image of someone seated in the tail section, conscious and fully aware of what was happening. What a terrible fate. I hope that didn't happen but I don't suppose we'll ever know.
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I thought of something very much along that line. They'd be seated and seat belts on, so they'd get spun and tossed real hard, like an amusement park ride gone wrong, followed almost instantly by the impact with the water, and if nothing else had killed them yet, drowning. No warning, and it all lasted 3, 4 seconds maybe.
 
arthwollipot said:
How surprising. I'd be embarrassed too if the president made my position look so breathtakingly stupid.
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What position of mine are you (no doubt, falsely) referring to and how does Trump blaming the crash on DEI make that position of mine "look so breathtakingly stupid"?
 
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On the CNN video you can see the impact and then sections of the plane falling into the water. Impact into the Potomac wasn't instant, it was a few seconds. In an event like that people who DO survive sometimes say each second seemed like a year. In previous crashes, investigators suspected some of the passengers may have remained conscious immediately after the collision and understood what was happening. This was when autopsies revealed no critical injuries and the cause of death was drowning.
 
JayUtah said:
200 feet is a low altitude to fly over a populated area, even if you're skirting the river bank. I live near two major hospitals, so I have some experience with low-flying helicopters. There will be some pressure from residents for the helicopters to fly higher, or as high as allowed in order to cut down the noise.
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I don't think there would be a lot of difference in the noise that reaches the ground from a Blackhawk at 200 or 500 feet, and even higher.
 
kookbreaker said:
And just to add to the fun, we’ve just had a Lear Jet crash in Northeast Philly.
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From the CNN story:

The plane reached 1,650 feet shortly after takeoff before plunging, according to data from ADS-B Exchange. The data shows the final speed of descent was 11,000 feet per minute.
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Still too soon for any final judgement but first thing that comes to mind is massive equipment failure of something on the jet.
 
The Philadelphia crash involved a Mexican Air Ambulance. According to some reports a Penn Medicine Pediatric unit was onboard.

There are likely no survivors and house fires in NE Philly are still being fought.
 
dudalb said:
From the CNN story:



Still too soon for any final judgement but first thing that comes to mind is massive equipment failure of something on the jet.
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If so, the equipment failure will likely be blames on a DEI hire.

Not hyperbole.
 
jt512 said:
What position of mine are you (no doubt, falsely) referring to and how does Trump blaming the crash on DEI make that position of mine "look so breathtakingly stupid"?
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arthwollipot said:
That DEI is bad.
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OK. You've answered the first part of the question. Now, how about the second part: How does Trump blaming the crash on DEI make my position that DEI is "bad" look "so breathtakingly stupid"?
 
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