The NWO Exposed!

[Myriad]

They counted on no one watching Turner Classic Movies at noon on a Saturday, but I was too smart for them. And that's how I saw this:



It starts out ominous, and then at 0:25 the curtain opens and the true horror is revealed.

Look at that angelically robed diva and all those white guys (and a few Chinese) singing their heads off about "making way for the world that is new," in front of the American flag dominating a mosaic of (diminished and subordinately positioned) other national flags. Check out those eagles on poles, and the V-for-victory banners.

It really is genuinely creepy, even in its historical context. It looks like the director said, "Hey, let's show 'em we can out-master-race the Nazis!"

(It's the final number from the movie "Thousands Cheer," 1943.)

 

[Dave Rogers]

Weird. Felt like a mash-up of "Springtime for Hitler" and "Tomorrow Belongs to Me."

Neither of which is good.

Dave

 

[Hans]

A tad creepy I expected Mussolini to appear as a zombie and do some tap dancing

 

[Ladewig]

Weird. Felt like a mash-up of "Springtime for Hitler" and "Tomorrow Belongs to Me."

Neither of which is good.

Dave

Indeed.
With a bit of work from the sound engineers that brought us Alvin and the Chipmunks.

 

[threadworm]

They're just shoving it in our faces aren't they, the swines!

~shakes fist impotently~

 

[malbec]

It really is genuinely creepy, even in its historical context. It looks like the director said, "Hey, let's show 'em we can out-master-race the Nazis!"

(It's the final number from the movie "Thousands Cheer," 1943.)

Lovely .
But you already had been taken over by the Nazis with Operation Paper Clip finalising matters not long after .
Whom do you think built up Germany during the wars and then backed both sides during the ding dong ?
It was only FDR threatening treason charges against the usual suspects ---- Ford , Rockefeller etc that kept things a bit hush hush .

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Lovely .
But you already had been taken over by the Nazis with Operation Paper Clip finalising matters not long after .
Whom do you think built up Germany during the wars and then backed both sides during the ding dong ?
It was only FDR threatening treason charges against the usual suspects ---- Ford , Rockefeller etc that kept things a bit hush hush .

There is a widespread perception that the pro-Israeli lobby has an inordinate amount of influence over American politics and policy-making.
But not you. You think they're controlled by the Nazis.
You may also have overlooked the anti-racism and anti-homophobia legislation passed over the years.
Because nothing says "Nazi" like racial equality and support for Israel.
Well done, Malbec. You're a reliable source of chuckles. Keep it up!

 

[threadworm]

There is a widespread perception that the pro-Israeli lobby has an inordinate amount of influence over American politics and policy-making.
But not you. You think they're controlled by the Nazis.
You may also have overlooked the anti-racism and anti-homophobia legislation passed over the years.
Because nothing says "Nazi" like racial equality and support for Israel.
Well done, Malbec. You're a reliable source of chuckles. Keep it up!

I think he's overlooked a lot of stuff, like 'historical facts'.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Lovely .
But you already had been taken over by the Nazis with Operation Paper Clip finalising matters not long after .
Whom do you think built up Germany during the wars and then backed both sides during the ding dong ?
It was only FDR threatening treason charges against the usual suspects ---- Ford , Rockefeller etc that kept things a bit hush hush .

Operation paperclip did not result in "us" of any kind being "taken over" by Nazi. Not no way, not no how. But feel free to post evidence proving me wrong. That would be fun.

 

[malbec]

There is a widespread perception that the pro-Israeli lobby has an inordinate amount of influence over American politics and policy-making.
But not you. You think they're controlled by the Nazis.
You may also have overlooked the anti-racism and anti-homophobia legislation passed over the years.
Because nothing says "Nazi" like racial equality and support for Israel.
Well done, Malbec. You're a reliable source of chuckles. Keep it up!

The only problem for you is that my points are recognised and factual .
Your overall opinion is just a conditioned response to propaganda .
I also love chuckling but try disputing the points I raised .
As for Israel ,-- perhaps . Perhaps not . But that is your narrative . Not mine .

 

[malbec]

Operation paperclip did not result in "us" of any kind being "taken over" by Nazi. Not no way, not no how. But feel free to post evidence proving me wrong. That would be fun.

So . You don't feel it to be the case .
Therefore it is not .
Brilliant .
Why would I waste my time trying to overturn such a pre-conditioned mind set?

 

[Ladewig]

So . You don't feel it to be the case .
Therefore it is not .
Brilliant .
Why would I waste my time trying to overturn such a pre-conditioned mind set?

I am more interested in understanding people's position than I am in talking them out of their positions.

If US industrialists built up Germany before 1943 (the year of the movie clip) and then destroyed it all, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the ultra-rich Americans controlled the Nazis (and the US) rather than say the Nazis controlled Ameria's overt and covert power structure? If the Nazis controlled America then why would they use an instrument under their power (i.e. the Allied Countries) destroy themselves?

ETA
or were you making a little joke to pull our legs?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

So . You don't feel it to be the case .
Therefore it is not .
Brilliant .
Why would I waste my time trying to overturn such a pre-conditioned mind set?

{kneeling, with arms raised to sky in supplication}
Please, oh wise one, post the glorious and incontrovertible facts that will overturn my preconditioned mind.

 

[malbec]

I am more interested in understand people's position than I am in talking them out of their positions.

If US industrialists built up Germany before 1943 (the year of the movie clip) and then destroyed it all, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the ultra-rich Americans controlled the Nazis (and the US)? If the Nazis controlled America then why would they use an instrument under their power to destroy themselves?

A well received response because , for a change here , it talks to possible discussion rather than attempted ridicule just because my position stands against the consensus view .
There is evidence that US industrialists did not give up after the 1942 legislation halted their flagrant disregard for doing business with the enemy . Unsurprisingly they then operated with new care and cunning .
To look at the post war position , I believe we need to look at how the Rockefeller and Ford type operations worked across Europe and see how German industry was rebuilt at an amazing rate -- such that the supposed losers presided over the strongest overall western europe economy in just 15 years .Truly mind blowing .
At the same time , I believe we should chart the way top German scientists with clear SS histories , plus technical experts , were let into America , despite their exact records being available . In fairness they would have otherwise gone to Russia .
And the positions that they achieved in the newly formed CIA are fact .Later there was nothing like an ex Nazi heading up the CIA and the whole role of Allan Dulles and close colleagues needs minute examination .
Retreating a moment .
More examination needs making of Nazi root philosophy and strategy and that Martin Boormann knew the war was lost by late 1942 and started planning accordingly . We need to look at his work in Patagonia , Argentina and Antartica --- however contentious this last place might seem initially .
The thesis is that plans for the Fourth Reich started then and swallowing the US by stealth was a lynch pin for the future .
The subject is huge and we need to face the serious likelihood that Boormann along with Hitler did not die in Berlin -- The Grey Wolf by by Dunstan and Williams is a work of scholarship and nobody has yet dared to contend its key findings . It has been swept you know where . For the time being .
A huge subject that is actually outside the scope of this chat site and based on subject matter that many people are conditioned to scoff at and ridicule without really being aware of the truly great academic work that is bravely being produced by a few courageous individuals .
That is , it appears to seek to change the existing world views in many areas and in ways which would have unbelievable consequences if they are only partly the case .
A quick reply and I doubt I shall comment further here .

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Lovely .
But you already had been taken over by the Nazis with Operation Paper Clip finalising matters not long after .
Whom do you think built up Germany during the wars and then backed both sides during the ding dong ?
It was only FDR threatening treason charges against the usual suspects ---- Ford , Rockefeller etc that kept things a bit hush hush .

There is a widespread perception that the pro-Israeli lobby has an inordinate amount of influence over American politics and policy-making.
But not you. You think they're controlled by the Nazis.
You may also have overlooked the anti-racism and anti-homophobia legislation passed over the years.
Because nothing says "Nazi" like racial equality and support for Israel.
Well done, Malbec. You're a reliable source of chuckles. Keep it up!

The only problem for you is that my points are recognised and factual .
Your overall opinion is just a conditioned response to propaganda .
I also love chuckling but try disputing the points I raised .
As for Israel ,-- perhaps . Perhaps not . But that is your narrative . Not mine .

I seem to have missed the facts in your original post.
Perhaps you could highlight them for me?
Is my pointing out the existence of anti-racist legislation in the US a conditioned response to propaganda? If so, how?
How do you reconcile the US's constant and unshakeable support for Israel in the UN with a Nazi takeover of same ? Both our narratives, methinks.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Oh, nevermind. I thought Malbec was serious. I see my mistake.

Carry on, Malbec. Your act is entertaining.

 

[malbec]

Oh, nevermind. I thought Malbec was serious. I see my mistake.

Carry on, Malbec. Your act is entertaining.

Obviously , I know exactly how persons of your type will respond before I post .
But a chat site just full of self regarding smarty pants people is boring .
I am here to help the odd person with Listening Ears .
Be lucky next time .

 

[sackett]

Don't pay any attention to them, Malbec. I can read your code. Especially when you hit the spacebar BEFORE the period.

Some of us are in the know.

Keep jumping those cartwheels.

 

[Hans]

Oh, nevermind. I thought Malbec was serious. I see my mistake.

Carry on, Malbec. Your act is entertaining.

Oh I'm sure he thinks he is very entertaining but then he is just repeating what he's been told to believe.....whether he actually believes it or not is another question.

Lets let him babble on for awhile maybe he might trip over himself and actually provide some evidence of which he speaks.

lol

 

[Hans]

Don't pay any attention to them, Malbec. I can read your code. Especially when you hit the spacebar BEFORE the period.

Some of us are in the know.

Keep jumping those cartwheels.

If he was really in the know he would know that the spacebar code is old hat and it should be spacebar \ spacebar /

 

[Hans]

There is evidence that US industrialists did not give up after the 1942 legislation halted their flagrant disregard for doing business with the enemy .

Well until 1941 on Dec 11 when Nazi Germany and her allies declared war on the US the two countries were not at war and any business dealings between them would have been acceptable - same thing happened in 1917.

Until war is declared the other side is not technically an enemy.........

 

[malbec]

How do you reconcile the US's constant and unshakeable support for Israel in the UN with a Nazi takeover of same ? Both our narratives, methinks.

I don't .
But I believe your labels are wrongly attributed .
Regardless , do you want a list of brilliant Jews whom the Nazis were happy to deal with , whenever it suited ?
At the top of the triangle, power unites . Other differences are tolerated or not even "real" ones unless you are underneath looking up .
Example .There is good evidence that the US created Daesh or IS for its own reasons and still supports them via proxy --- see Turkey and Jordan for chunks of evidence .
How do you characterise their relationship in terms of short , medium and long term co-operation and support .
Horses for courses springs to mind ?

 

[timhau]

Carry on, Malbec. Your act is entertaining.

... for some real low values of "entertaining" .

 

[Hans]

... for some real low values of "entertaining" .

I suspect all we will get for our entertainment is vague statements that he's been told to believe.

I particularly want to see what version of the Antarctic myths he's going to tout as 'history'. lol should be amusing.

 

[malbec]

I suspect all we will get for our entertainment is vague statements that he's been told to believe.

I particularly want to see what version of the Antarctic myths he's going to tout as 'history'. lol should be amusing.

Ask Obama . He was down there a few days ago .
Ask Putin why the biggest modern Ruusian flotilla possibly ever seen is down there right now .
Don't you guys ever read the real news ?
Just because you are an MSM Conspiracy Theorist , you must not assume everybody else is stuck .

P.S.
Whatever you do , ignore Operation Highjump in 1947 . Far too factual .

 

[Border Reiver]

Obviously , I know exactly how persons of your type will respond before I post .
But a chat site just full of self regarding smarty pants people is boring .
I am here to help the odd person with Listening Ears .
Be lucky next time .

If you're going to help a person with Listening Ears to overcome years of conditioning to accept a radically different narrative than what is presently the norm, you might want to try and present evidence that supports your narrative.

A well received response because , for a change here , it talks to possible discussion rather than attempted ridicule just because my position stands against the consensus view .
There is evidence that US industrialists did not give up after the 1942 legislation halted their flagrant disregard for doing business with the enemy . Unsurprisingly they then operated with new care and cunning .
To look at the post war position , I believe we need to look at how the Rockefeller and Ford type operations worked across Europe and see how German industry was rebuilt at an amazing rate -- such that the supposed losers presided over the strongest overall western europe economy in just 15 years .Truly mind blowing .
At the same time , I believe we should chart the way top German scientists with clear SS histories , plus technical experts , were let into America , despite their exact records being available . In fairness they would have otherwise gone to Russia .
And the positions that they achieved in the newly formed CIA are fact .Later there was nothing like an ex Nazi heading up the CIA and the whole role of Allan Dulles and close colleagues needs minute examination .

Looking at this anyone can ascertain that you have not actually presented any evidence to support your arguments - you claimed that there was evidence of US industrialists carrying on trading with Nazi Germany post declaration of war by Nazi Germany, but you don't tell people what it is.

Then you flip to the post-war recovery of WEST Germany as a sign of obviously nefarious doings on someone's part (likely those industrialists), but again fall short of actually providing evidence that there is something amiss here.

The implication of your statements on OPERATION PAPERCLIP is displaying a marked lack of historical understanding, or else a willful disregard for the state of historical knowledge of OPERATION PAPERCLIP - ie. we DO know the way that top Nazi scientists were brought into the US and other western nations where they were put to work so that the West could benefit from their expertise. That hasn't been a secret for decades, and there is a rather large publically accessible number of books out there.

As to your suggestion that an ex-Nazi headed up the CIA, this is again not supported by any actual evidence, like a name. The implication of your dropping Dulles' name is that he was the ex-Nazi, but given the level of the historical record that is available concerning Mr. Dulles, that would be unlikely and is likely an attempt to either smear Mr. Dulles, or to deflect attention to the fact that you are not actually providing any evidence for your assertions.

Based on this and many of your other postings, I can conclude that you are not particularing interested in convincing anyone of your views, but are rather hoping that any "Listening Ears" are ignorant of history, and feel that your "brave bucking of the historical consenus" merits consideration because you are constantly making these bold claims. Unfortunately, bold assertions are all you have, or rather, all you are presenting.

 

[Hans]

Ask Obama . He was down there a few days ago .
Ask Putin why the biggest modern Ruusian flotilla possibly ever seen is down there right now .
Don't you guys ever read the real news ?
Just because you are an MSM Conspiracy Theorist , you must not assume everybody else is stuck .

P.S.
Whatever you do , ignore Operation Highjump in 1947 . Far too factual .

You really do live in a fantasy world - I don't have contact with Putin and Obama - do you expect that I would? I am however in communication with you so it would make a bit more sense for you to provide the evidence - don't you think that is more reasonable? lol

Yes I'm quite familiar with Highjump one of my Uncles was a Chief on the Seaplane Tender USS Currituck.

So do tell us all about the Nazis and Highjump..........I'm all ears

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

I am here to help the odd person with Listening Ears .

They don't look too impressed...

 

[Ladewig]

There is evidence that US industrialists did not give up after the 1942 legislation halted their flagrant disregard for doing business with the enemy . Unsurprisingly they then operated with new care and cunning .
To look at the post war position , I believe we need to look at how the Rockefeller and Ford type operations worked across Europe and see how German industry was rebuilt at an amazing rate -- such that the supposed losers presided over the strongest overall western europe economy in just 15 years .Truly mind blowing .

But my question was about the wording you used in post #6.

I have already heard people put forth the idea that folks like Rockerfeller and Ford made a fortune building pre-war German infrastructure and production. And that these same people then made a second fortune selling the machines of war to the Allied Powers and to the Axis Powers (at least the European ones). And that they made a third fortune rebuilding Germany. I get all that. What I don't get is why you refer to the this group as Nazis?

I could understand calling them capitalists, kingmakers, cabalists, puppet masters, NWOists, or conspirators. But why would they call themselves Nazis? Wasn't Nazism just a ruse to allow for money making opportunities during the middle portion of the 20th Century?

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I don't .
But I believe your labels are wrongly attributed .
Regardless , do you want a list of brilliant Jews whom the Nazis were happy to deal with , whenever it suited ?

Yes, OK. I'm not sure how that will help you prove that Nazis took over the US, though. It may illustrate pragmatism. Does pragmatism worry you?

At the top of the triangle, power unites . Other differences are tolerated or not even "real" ones unless you are underneath looking up .

Yup. That worked for Julius Caesar, didn't it? Oh, wait-no.
And Trotsky. No, that isn't a good example either.
Ernst Rohm! No, not him either.
General Noriega? The Gang of Four?
I'm afraid history does not agree with your analysis, old fruit.

Example .There is good evidence that the US created Daesh or IS for its own reasons and still supports them via proxy --- see Turkey and Jordan for chunks of evidence .

Have you been sitting in Henri McPhee's Armchair of Confusion? He has thus far failed to provide any evidence at all of this.Feel free to stun us with your investigative brilliance. However, before you leap to your keyboard with a gleeful chuckle, I should warn you that the CIA memo that Childlike Empress and our Henri have been posting has been done to death, and does not constitute evidence that the US set up Daesh.
Anything else, though, would be welcomed, and I will give it due attention.