• Due to ongoing issues caused by Search, it has been temporarily disabled
  • Please excuse the mess, we're moving the furniture and restructuring the forum categories
  • You may need to edit your signatures.

    When we moved to Xenfora some of the signature options didn't come over. In the old software signatures were limited by a character limit, on Xenfora there are more options and there is a character number and number of lines limit. I've set maximum number of lines to 4 and unlimited characters.

Prediction thread: What will the U.S. gov't do that most resembles the Third Reich?

Pixel42 said:
This makes no sense, as no one has ever suggested that the Industrial Revolution was a major factor in the geology of the planet.

I know Michael Crichton was a climate change denier. That is comparable to being a Holocaust denier only in the sense that both are denying mountains of objective evidence.
Click to expand...
I once heard of the Anthropocene. The Industrial Revolution is 1/32,000,000th of Earth's history (seven orders of magnitude). Orders of magnitude could be a tough concept to teach 3rd graders. It is much easier to frighten them with computer generated maps showing half of Florida under water.

I assume you were not a fan of Crichton's CalTech lecture on scientific consensus or his Aliens cause Global Warming. If you think about a newspaper columnist attempting to bully and intimidate Michael Crichton, you have to laugh. Or at least smile. A little.

Don't you find it interesting that with science and politics in the 21st Century, that the Holocaust is the common thread?
 
arthwollipot said:
No need to shout. In this case the claim was equivalent to claiming that there is no teapot orbiting Mars. You can't answer that claim by proving that there isn't. And you can't answer the claim that there are no white Europeans being deported by proving that there aren't. You answer the claim by demonstrating its opposite, which I believe you did in #141.
Click to expand...
I wasn't shouting which is all caps. I tried to get rid of the bolding but couldn't for some reason.
Whatever. You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
Stacyhs said:
How many of them ARE Aryan white?
Click to expand...
How many of them were tourists who overstayed their visa? How many had the wrong visa? How many tourists worked a job? How many simply crossed over from Canada with no visa? How many of them committed crimes while in the USA?

Apparently these are all the reasons why the Southern border gets all the political publicity, and the televised raids, and hopping-mad anger from certain quarters. And guns and shooting.

So why not these European ones too?
 
Norman Alexander said:
How many of them were tourists who overstayed their visa? How many had the wrong visa? How many tourists worked a job? How many simply crossed over from Canada with no visa? How many of them committed crimes while in the USA?

Apparently these are all the reasons why the Southern border gets all the political publicity, and the televised raids, and hopping-mad anger from certain quarters. And guns and shooting.

So why not these European ones too?
Click to expand...
I don't know and neither do you.
I'm out of this pointless discussion.
 
Walter said:
The Industrial Revolution is 1/32,000,000th of Earth's history (seven orders of magnitude).
Click to expand...

So? The events which divide previous ages from each other were also of relatively short duration compared to the ages themselves. For example:

en.wikipedia.org

Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


en.wikipedia.org

Triassic–Jurassic extinction event - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

But this is not the appropriate thread for this discussion.
 
Norman Alexander said:
So you don't know?
Click to expand...
I don't know, because (AFIAK) ICE does not collect data on ethnicity.

Happily, I don't need to know, because you are the one claiming (without any evidence so far) that they ignore their own guidance on racial profiling in order to identify white people and give them a free pass based on skin color.
 
d4m10n said:
I don't know, because (AFIAK) ICE does not collect data on ethnicity.

Happily, I don't need to know, because you are the one claiming (without any evidence so far) that they ignore their own guidance on racial profiling in order to identify white people and give them a free pass based on skin color.
Click to expand...
Again, don't put words in my mouth. I did not say "free pass".

So where is the outrage and publicity over all these European illegals?
 
Last edited:
Norman Alexander said:
That question again: Where is the outrage and publicity over all these European illegals?
Click to expand...
It's hiding behind the evidence for your claim that “White Europeans are exempt from ICE roundups.” ;)
Norman Alexander said:
Again, don't put words in my mouth. I did not say "free pass".
Click to expand...
No, you said they are "exempt" which is substantively the same thing.
 
Last edited:
Certainly the uncontrolled rage and public screaming is a candidate for resembling Reich-level behavior, if not a contender for "most". Take it as supporting/corroborating evidence for whatever aspect is most egregious, part of the same pattern.
 
Sadly, we have alot of people in this forum who do not know as much about as the United States or it;s politics as they think they do.
 
d4m10n said:
It's hiding behind the evidence for your claim that “White Europeans are exempt from ICE roundups.” ;)
Click to expand...
So where are all the on-the-spot TV crews when a couple of Swedes are rounded up in a dawn raid by ICE? And 3rd-rate TV celebs? And do they get transported to Gitmo in chains? And Trump crows about them? If not, why not?
d4m10n said:
No, you said they are "exempt" which is substantively the same thing.
Click to expand...
No, it isn't.
 
d4m10n said:
I don't know, probably more than zero.

If there is an official policy about how to treat people based on race, then it had to be communicated all the way down the chain of command to the agents on the ground. Do you think that a policy illegally based on skin color wouldn't leak to the news?
Click to expand...
No-one said there was an "official policy". How's it playing out boots on the ground?
 
arthwollipot said:
No-one said there was an "official policy".
Click to expand...
I don't know about you, but "exempt" strikes me as language describing policy rather than language used to describe a trend happening on the ground. Either way, though, evidence has yet to be adduced or even hinted at.
 
Pixel42 said:
So? The events which divide previous ages from each other were also of relatively short duration compared to the ages themselves. For example:

en.wikipedia.org

Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


en.wikipedia.org

Triassic–Jurassic extinction event - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

But this is not the appropriate thread for this discussion.
Click to expand...
You are quite right. I was only drawing attention to the fact that those in science and politics today tie me to either those who slaughtered Jews or those who deny it ever happened. Odd.

My maternal grandfather (Geology PhD, 1927, Yale) specialized in the Precambrian. Eight to nine orders of magnitude.
 
Walter said:
You are quite right. I was only drawing attention to the fact that those in science and politics today tie me to either those who slaughtered Jews or those who deny it ever happened. Odd.
Click to expand...
Ideas are odd.

So is not voting against Trump if you have the chance.
 
Walter said:
You are quite right. I was only drawing attention to the fact that those in science and politics today tie me to either those who slaughtered Jews or those who deny it ever happened. Odd.
Click to expand...
Analogies are like that. Different ones apply for different things. Nothing odd about it.

Walter said:
My maternal grandfather (Geology PhD, 1927, Yale) specialized in the Precambrian. Eight to nine orders of magnitude.
Click to expand...
What is this weird obsession with orders of magnitude? What is this weird obsession with the durations of geological epochs and the boundary events which separate them, both of which vary wildly?

The Cretaceous period lasted 79 million years. The Paleogene period lasted 43 million years. The boundary event that separates them, an asteroid strike, lasted seconds. Now calculate by how many orders of magnitude the duration of the two periods exceeded the duration of the boundary event, I know you want to.

There is currently a debate going on as to whether the severity of the climate change and mass extinction event caused by AGW is sufficient to justify considering it such a boundary event, i.e. whether it marks the end of the Holocene period and the beginning of a new one (provisionally named the Anthropocene). The Holocene period began about 11,700 years ago. We began burning fossil fuel a couple of centuries ago and it will probably take us another couple to get through what's left; call it four hundred years for the duration of the boundary event. There's another order of magnitude for you to calculate, have fun.
 
Last edited:
Orphia Nay said:
Ideas are odd.

So is not voting against Trump if you have the chance.
Click to expand...
If I had voted, I would have voted for Trump. And my reasons would have had nothing to do with Trump. For some reason, the Democratic Party decided to hand common sense over to the Republican Party. It would have been so easy to share common ground on our border and on biology.
The election may very well have turned out differently.
 
Walter said:
If I had voted, I would have voted for Trump. And my reasons would have had nothing to do with Trump. For some reason, the Democratic Party decided to hand common sense over to the Republican Party. It would have been so easy to share common ground on our border and on biology.
The election may very well have turned out differently.
Click to expand...
By not voting, you effectively did. Congrats on your choices.
 
Walter said:
If I had voted, I would have voted for Trump. And my reasons would have had nothing to do with Trump. For some reason, the Democratic Party decided to hand common sense over to the Republican Party. It would have been so easy to share common ground on our border and on biology.
The election may very well have turned out differently.
Click to expand...
The Maga/Nazis are wiping their asses with the Constitution, tanking the economy, arresting people for the crime of being brown, destroying public safety and causing the next pandemic to happen, but it's the Democrats that lack common sense? You wouldn't have voted for the Democrat because you think transgendered people are icky? Wow.
 
Pixel42 said:
Analogies are like that. Different ones apply for different things. Nothing odd about it.


What is this weird obsession with orders of magnitude? What is this weird obsession with the durations of geological epochs and the boundary events which separate them, both of which vary wildly?

The Cretaceous period lasted 79 million years. The Paleogene period lasted 43 million years. The boundary event that separates them, an asteroid strike, lasted seconds. Now calculate by how many orders of magnitude the duration of the two periods exceeded the duration of the boundary event, I know you want to.

There is currently a debate going on as to whether the severity of the climate change and mass extinction event caused by AGW is sufficient to justify considering it such a boundary event, i.e. whether it marks the end of the Holocene period and the beginning of a new one (provisionally named the Anthropocene). The Holocene period began about 11,700 years ago. We began burning fossil fuel a couple of centuries ago and it will probably take us another couple to get through what's left; call it four hundred years for the duration of the boundary event. There's another order of magnitude for you to calculate, have fun.
Click to expand...
Well, it is not really an obsession. They were a part of my life as an analytical chemist. I tested samples from a low of 5ug, for example, up to a ton of 500ug for synthesized samples. Two orders of magnitude. Seven would translate to 50,000,000ug. I just think in those terms. Think about how many minutes or centuries modern humans will delay the onset of the next Ice Age.

Regardless of my reasons for questioning the fear mongering about a warming planet, I do not deny climate any more than I deny continental drift or the Holocaust. It is the fact that the Holocaust is such an important issue for many people when it comes to global warming and political philosophy.

I have watched many episodes of Antiques Roadshow UK. It is those stories related to the Holocaust which are the most emotional.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom