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Pentagon debris with numbers

Caustic Logic said:
Here is a photo that's been little seen yet:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/chainsawmoth/FrustratingFraud/aa_debris_serial.jpg
The aircraft ID number is N644AA.
I haven't got anyone to tell me if this was from the plane, what part is it from, and what does it tell? People mention no tail numbers and reports matching such to the debris, leaving questions over whether it was THE plane, even if a 757 of some type. I've always been a fence-sitter on this point but leaning towards it being Fl77.
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The recovery of the FDR and CVR answer the question of whether the debris matches that tail number. Not to mention the fact that no other 757s are unaccounted for....
 
parky76 said:
"Do you have absolute proof that this piece was not planted? Without definative evidence, it is as good as planted."

So says nutcase 9-11 Deniar.
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Yup. Most rational people realize that until one has absolute proof that the piece was planted, it is a good as legitimate.

But, again, that is most RATIONAL people. ;)
 
Gravy said:
The recovery of the FDR and CVR answer the question of whether the debris matches that tail number. Not to mention the fact that no other 757s are unaccounted for....
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Yeah, well I was talking about from a debris perspective here. Until now I've seen lots of things indicating it was a 757, AA paint job, and probably filled with people (ie dead bodies seated). But this is the first time I've seen a number on debris. It's just a tiny piece of the puzzle, but I though maybe a potent one. Serial number of a beverage cart isn't what I was hoping for, but that might be what it is.
 
Caustic Logic said:
Hey, Beachnut, I'm sorry man. I didn't mean to offend you and your colleagues. I know it can be an emotional issue to bring back up, for you and even more for others. Consider me driven off then and I'll never bring up my beliefs or research on these things to you again unless you ask me to. peace.
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It is not emotional, you are making up lies. Sorry you are not able to understand NORAD and the military and the history of our nation. Your web site is a slap in the face blaming the military for not shooting down aircraft and then using BS to make your point due to lack of knowledge. But to support the stand down lies of 9/11 truth is a disgrace for you and disrespectful to the military. You are the one making up stuff, and those in the military do not see this fringe stuff much, and mostly totally ignore the 9/11 truth movement as a bunch of idiots.

The part on the lawn was damaged in an impact with the energy of over a 2000 pound bomb. The impact of 77 was equal in energy to over 2000 pounds of TNT. This is what "damaged" the part on the lawn. No wonder the fools think a bomb was planted or something, they do not understand the power of an impact.

In aircraft accidents, when aircraft hit things, there are objects that fly hundreds and thousands of feet from the impact. Some look brand new, some are damaged. This is what an aircraft impact scene looks like, what you see at the Pentagon and in PA. Over thinking the impact of flight 77 is not needed.

Some items may look like they were never in the impact, and some are messed up past recognition.
 
beachnut said:
In aircraft accidents, when aircraft hit things, there are objects that fly hundreds and thousands of feet from the impact. Some look brand new, some are damaged. This is what an aircraft impact scene looks like, what you see at the Pentagon and in PA. Over thinking the impact of flight 77 is not needed.

Some items may look like they were never in the impact, and some are messed up past recognition.
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plenty here.....



BV
 
beachnut said:
SNIP>>
In aircraft accidents, when aircraft hit things, there are objects that fly hundreds and thousands of feet from the impact. Some look brand new, some are damaged. This is what an aircraft impact scene looks like, what you see at the Pentagon and in PA. Over thinking the impact of flight 77 is not needed.

Some items may look like they were never in the impact, and some are messed up past recognition.
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As the man said on NGC last night ("American Vesuvius") "We found watches detached from wrists that were still ticking" in the ruins of the towers--and they had been through at least 2 catastrophies (the crash and the collapse). Finding "anomolies" in a crash scene is normal.
 
Aa77

American Airlines N644AA was issued serial number 24602, issued its airworthiness certificate on May 8, 1991, transponder code 52072030. Leinholders were WILMINGTON TRUST COMPANY out of Wilmington, Delaware.
Like a previous post, I believe the placard is from equipment inside the plane. Note the circuitboard on the bottom.
 
apathoid said:
It looks like a light ballast. On Boeings, they typically have brass colored casing and are about 6x2x3 inches, have schematics on the side, and of course have the ID sticker on the top. The only other parts I can think of that are similar in size is cargo smoke detectors, other that I'm drawing a blank. :con2:

We can ask if AMTMAN could look up P/N MOD55(S?)37 and S/N 144B(8?) and see what he can find.

ETA: Seat electronic boxes are about the same size and appearance too, but they usually have lots of cooling holes in the case.
ETA2:.....or maybe they don't!
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Very close. The part in question is the power supply for the emergency lights. I'm suprised no one sent me a IM about this. JamesB sent me an e-mail about it it but it was not directly related to JREF.
 
Jumpa31 said:
American Airlines N644AA was issued serial number 24602, issued its airworthiness certificate on May 8, 1991, transponder code 52072030. Leinholders were WILMINGTON TRUST COMPANY out of Wilmington, Delaware.
Like a previous post, I believe the placard is from equipment inside the plane. Note the circuitboard on the bottom.
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Very interesting. Any chance we could get a reference, or an idea what your source is for this information...just curious.

Thanks in advance

TAM:)
 
Caustic Logic said:
Here is a photo that's been little seen yet:
[qimg]http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/chainsawmoth/FrustratingFraud/aa_debris_serial.jpg[/qimg]
The aircraft ID number is N644AA.
I haven't got anyone to tell me if this was from the plane, what part is it from, and what does it tell? People mention no tail numbers and reports matching such to the debris, leaving questions over whether it was THE plane, even if a 757 of some type. I've always been a fence-sitter on this point but leaning towards it being Fl77. Any plane experts here to help ID this scrap?
Source: a bunch of scanns from the book "Pentagon 9/11"
http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/
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I assure you it was Flight 77, AA 757 5BP.
 
AMTMAN said:
Very close. The part in question is the power supply for the emergency lights. I'm suprised no one sent me a IM about this. JamesB sent me an e-mail about it it but it was not directly related to JREF.
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Thanks for looking that up. Perhaps there wasn't more interest in finding out what part it was because the Pentagon no-planers have largely crawled back under their rocks. The Pentagon was a popular CT until about a year ago (Dylan Avery said it was the best evidence that 9/11 was an inside job), but it seems to be reserved for the hardcore kooks now.
 
AMTMAN said:
Very close. The part in question is the power supply for the emergency lights. I'm suprised no one sent me a IM about this. JamesB sent me an e-mail about it it but it was not directly related to JREF.
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Ahh. That would have been my next guess...(if I had thought of it).;)
 
Gravy said:
Thanks for looking that up. Perhaps there wasn't more interest in finding out what part it was because the Pentagon no-planers have largely crawled back under their rocks. The Pentagon was a popular CT until about a year ago (Dylan Avery said it was the best evidence that 9/11 was an inside job), but it seems to be reserved for the hardcore kooks now.
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You are right, they seemed to have been a bit quiet lately. In the end it probably would not matter if the part was identified or not. They would just say it was planted.
 
AMTMAN said:
You are right, they seemed to have been a bit quiet lately. In the end it probably would not matter if the part was identified or not. They would just say it was planted.
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Rob (JDX) already claimed it to be a fake at ATS. Apparently he used to be a landscaper and from his experience, he said that the picture was taken in the springtime and not in the fall.
 
Boone 870 said:
Rob (JDX) already claimed it to be a fake at ATS. Apparently he used to be a landscaper and from his experience, he said that the picture was taken in the springtime and not in the fall.
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:drool:

His landscaping skills prove... that the grass was not mature? That the lighting is a bit too bright?

What, exactly?

He must be confusing an extensive knowledge of landscaping with omniscience.
 
Boone 870 said:
Rob (JDX) already claimed it to be a fake at ATS. Apparently he used to be a landscaper and from his experience, he said that the picture was taken in the springtime and not in the fall.
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Someone should tell him that September 11 in D.C. is decidedly summertime.
 
Planted evidence IS NEVER to be placed in grass that green!
SHEESH!!
Not to mention the fact that the grass is growing in the opposite direction in clear violation of NWO directive 2w340vi.
I will have to bring this up at our December meeting.
I look forward to testing my new decapitating breath mint.
 
Planted evidence IS NEVER to be placed in grass that green!
SHEESH!!
Not to mention the fact that the grass is growing in the opposite direction in clear violation of NWO directive 2w340vi.
I will have to bring this up at our December meeting.
I look forward to testing my new decapitating breath mint.
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You kumquat, one never mentions the actual NWO directive's number in the open it is always referred to by its Special Hiding Identification Term, which in this case was "briefcase with carrot, tomato sandwich and yogurt drink"

Please read your employee booklet page 129, sub paragraph 4 (d)
 
Bobert said:
Planted evidence IS NEVER to be placed in grass that green!
SHEESH!!
Not to mention the fact that the grass is growing in the opposite direction in clear violation of NWO directive 2w340vi.
I will have to bring this up at our December meeting.
I look forward to testing my new decapitating breath mint.
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Sounds tasty...i'll take 5.

I don't know why they're still adament about there being no plane at the pentagon, when debris is clearly visible, and RKOwens debunked that CT pretty well in one of his videos.
 
Gazpacho said:
Based on the color, material, and the apparent circuitboard, I'd put my money on it being part of the instrument panel.
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Since there are no gauges on the face to which the sticker is attached, onr anay wiring inlets, that seems kind of doubtful. Power supply for emergenct lighting seems the more likely explanation.
 
Boone 870 said:
Rob (JDX) already claimed it to be a fake at ATS. Apparently he used to be a landscaper and from his experience, he said that the picture was taken in the springtime and not in the fall.
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Well that must mean AA is in on the conspiracy.

I wonder if he realizes that early September in the DC area is technically still summer. I'm going to guess no.
 
Oh oops.
Forgot I had on my new NWO anti-gravity boots and was looking at my monitor upside down.
I was dancing on the ceiling and Oh what a feeling!
 
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