• Due to ongoing issues caused by Search, it has been temporarily disabled
  • Please excuse the mess, we're moving the furniture and restructuring the forum categories

[Merged] 2024 Election Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Skeptic Ginger said:
It's disgusting the way he talks like he's already POTUS and worse like that means he owns the country, not that he's merely POTUS.
Click to expand...

What's more disgusting is that his supporters cheered when he said it and there hasn't been a whisper of criticism from the GOP

The Republican Party is now officially pro-Russia.:mad:
 
The Don said:
What's more disgusting is that his supporters cheered when he said it and there hasn't been a whisper of criticism from the GOP

The Republican Party is now officially pro-Russia.:mad:
Click to expand...

The senate will be taking up Ukraine aid bill this week. We’ll see how Trump’s remarks will impact that.
 
In one very personal attack, Trump repeatedly questioned why Haley’s husband Michael Haley, who is deployed on a yearlong stint in Africa with the South Carolina Army National Guard, hasn’t been on the campaign trail. Trump, whose own wife, Melania Trump, has not joined him as he campaigns, asked: “What happened to her husband? Where is he? He’s gone. He knew. He knew.”

Haley responded sharply in a post on X, saying: “Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about. Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.” In an interview with CBS' “Face the Nation” a day later, Haley said, “We can’t have someone who sits there and mocks our men and women who are trying to protect America. It’s a pattern. It’s a pattern of chaos. It’s a pattern of irresponsibility.”

https://www.sfgate.com/news/politic...llenges-donald-trump-on-her-home-18660149.php
 
zorro99 said:
In one very personal attack, Trump repeatedly questioned why Haley’s husband Michael Haley, who is deployed on a yearlong stint in Africa with the South Carolina Army National Guard, hasn’t been on the campaign trail. Trump, whose own wife, Melania Trump, has not joined him as he campaigns, asked: “What happened to her husband? Where is he? He’s gone. He knew. He knew.”

Haley responded sharply in a post on X, saying: “Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about. Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.” In an interview with CBS' “Face the Nation” a day later, Haley said, “We can’t have someone who sits there and mocks our men and women who are trying to protect America. It’s a pattern. It’s a pattern of chaos. It’s a pattern of irresponsibility.”

https://www.sfgate.com/news/politic...llenges-donald-trump-on-her-home-18660149.php
Click to expand...

What is it he supposedly knew?
 
lobosrul5 said:
For starters, that doesn't make him unintelligent.
Click to expand...

You really need to be more careful about gambling your house.

You are correct that losing an election does not make one unintelligent.

But in this case, Bush Sr was quite unintelligent long before Bill Clinton came along. Although, you have claimed that Bush Sr was more intelligent than Bill Clinton.

Second, HW Bush graduated from Yale.
Click to expand...

True! Bush Sr graduated from Yale, just like his father, his grandfather, and his son.

Also, Bush Sr had the good luck to be born into a rich, well connected, and powerful family.

Given those advantages, just about anyone who half-way tried could have graduated Yale back in the early 1940s.

Third, he did what he believed right at the time. He raised taxes, which gave Perot an opportunity to run.
Click to expand...

Oh really?

If that is the case, then Bush Sr should have never apologized for raising taxes.

At least he wasn't dumb enough to coerce a subordinate to suck his dick in the Oval Office and get caught.
Click to expand...

What a load of crap!

Clinton never forced a woman to have sex with him because Clinton is the type of man who can charm about any woman to have sex with him.

Fourth. No. Saddam Hussein started that war. The US response had broad bilateral and international support for it.
Click to expand...

Again, more crap!

True Hussein did invade Kuwait, but the US did not have any kind of treaty's or defense pacts with Kuwait.

In fact, it was not until Bush met with Margert Thatcher some weeks after the Iraqi invasion that Bush got all wound up about what Iraq did to Kuwait.

... Also total BS that LBJ was somehow forced to escalate the Vietnam war. Presidents are responsible for their decisions. And no one on earth could have forced him.
Click to expand...

It is true that no one person actually forced Johnson to escalate the Vietnam War, but there certainly was plenty of political pressure from both Republicans and Democrats on Johnson to escalate the Vietnam War in order to act in accord with the famous "Domino Theory".

So instead of giving me your house, then donate $100 to the charity of your choice instead and I will call it square.

Thanks much.
 
Turns out claiming Biden didn't remember when his son died wasn't Biden giving the wrong date, it was Biden answering, "None of your damn business."

Per Glenn Kirschner. He also notes how a lot of things were misleading in the report.

 
Last edited:
Trebuchet said:
What is it he supposedly knew?
Click to expand...

He is insinuating that her husband stays on out of town missions for other reasons. Ie Her infidelity, fake marriage, <insertother>.

He probably has oppo intel to know if it is true or not to some degree- not that it would matter.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Turns out claiming Biden didn't remember when his son died wasn't Biden giving the wrong date, it was Biden answering, "None of your damn business."

Per Glenn Kirschner. He also notes how a lot of things were misleading in the report.

Click to expand...

To borrow an assessment, the MAGA stooge was unable to indict Biden legally, so he did his best to indict Biden politically. I find myself mildly curious about what would come up on the political bias front if he were investigated like Strzok was. Only mildly, though, because I very much expect his treatment to be very different even if he showed dramatically worse bias. What's described here by Kirshner sounds like the guy's bias really obviously affected his professional work, unlike Strzok, either way.
 
Last edited:
As a work product it is embarrassingly unprofessional, full of unfounded personal opinions, speculation, and absurd assertions.

None of which will matter to the general public. The GOP says the DOJ is weaponized against them, while they weaponize DOJ against Dems. They cry about voter fraud while being almost exclusively the source of it in the last election (apart from some ex-felons mistakingly voting in Florida, every single violation has been Republican).

Every accusation is a confession.
 
GOP senators defy Trump by advancing foreign aid bill
The vote was a decisive 67-27.

Tillis blamed Trump’s team rather than the former president’s long-established beef with NATO, saying “shame on his briefers” for not explaining the U.S. has made a commitment to assist any NATO country that is attacked.

Others were sharper in their criticism. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said it was a “stupid thing to say.” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said it was “uncalled for.” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said he doesn’t take Trump “literally.”



https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/11/gop-senators-defy-trump-by-advancing-foreign-aid-00140868

Republicans just told Trump to eff himself
 
Trump's NATO BS, one particular tell:

He claims one of the country reps asked, if they didn't pay did that mean "You wouldn't protect us?"

Can you tell what's wrong with this question?
It's pretty certain the countries in the EU, the UK, and other NATO countries don't view the US as 'their protector'. They would view the US as a contributing military partner.

Clearly Trump sees himself as an extension of the US and as such he is all powerful as the leader of the country that dominates the world.

He gets more scary by the day.

-
 
Last edited:
That report did Biden a favor. It put the attention on things that are easy to defend/dismiss. Not remembering what years you were VP? I don't remember the numbers for a lot of big stuff in my life. But shortly before it had been another thing that wasn't so easy, which the report has now become a distraction from. The "answer" in a press conference in which he didn't remember the name "Hamas" was a painful minute of listening to him dragging & scraping through an attempt at a mutterance which ended up amounting to "there's been progress" three times. It was obvious that the name wasn't all he was forgetting; he was clearly stalling in the hope of eventually coming up with anything to say about the question at all. It was exactly like watching my grandfather in various conversations in his last few years with Pick's Disease. But first focusing on the forgetting of the name "Hamas" as part of that episode, and then having this report gifted to him with more superficialities to focus on, gave Biden's defenders a way to not be talking about the way that whole "answer" went overall. (And really, even the whole age thing in general is a convenient distraction from the bigger problems with him anyway.)
 
Last edited:
In part Trump is getting what he wants just by campaigning. He gets to protest all the court cases and he gets fo belittle people. All good stuff for him. He does not want the daily or any work as president. It would take him a month or so to pass executive orders and then sit at Mar a Lago to sign a few bills. He would get excited if he passed a lot of revenge measures, that might keep him at the White House. But Mar a Lago for most of the winters. He is an old man after all.
 
Aridas said:
Just because... While there's manufactured hubbub about Biden's memory on the one side, on the other we have... Trump echoes Hitler's 'final solution' rhetoric in latest speeches.
Click to expand...

Here's what he wrote on Truth Social (see if it reminds you of anything:

"2024 is our Final Battle. With you at my side, we will demolish the Deep State, we will expel the warmongers from our government, we will drive out the globalists, we will cast out the Communists, Marxists, and Fascists, we will throw off the sick political class that hates our Country, we will rout the Fake News Media, we will Drain the Swamp, and we will liberate our country from these tyrants and villains once and for all!"

(If it helps, change 2024 to 1933 and remove the reference to Fascists.)
 
Crossbow said:
It is true that LBJ did not handle the Vietnam War very well.

However, it was a war that he inherited and quite frankly, I doubt that anyone could have done much with that hornet's nest by the time 1963 rolled around.



Great!

And as for the bet that you are proposing, I will take that bet. After all, I would not mind having another house given the current real estate market.

For starters, Bush Sr lost to Clinton during the 1992 Presidential election.

Second, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar.

Third, some of you all may remember the famous pledge that Bush Sr made during the 1988 Republican Convention where he avowed "Read my lips! NO NEW TAXES!". But by 1990 Bush Sr was raising taxes.

Fourth, Bush Sr was the one who started that stupid first war with Iraq.
Click to expand...

Fifth Shrub Snr was neck deep in the plan to support both Iran and Iraq during their war.

Sixth he was also neck deep in the plan to smuggle Noriega's drugs into the US to make money to buy weapons to ship to Iran.

Seventh it was his personally picked diplomat that told Saddam Hussein that the US was ok with Iraq invading Quwait kicking off the first (sixth if you're the UK) Iraq war.
 
Dems manage to flip a seat in the special election to replace George Santos:

Trump rages at ‘foolish’ GOP candidate who lost race for Santos’s New York House seat

With this pickup, the Republicans still control the House, 219-213, but it seems like a good sign for Democrats. Trump claims that the Republican lost because she didn't endorse Trump and tried to keep him at arm's length. She would have totally won with Trump's backing. I think she would have lost by an even bigger margin if she had run as a Trumpist, but what do you think? It seems to be about 54% to 46%.
 
That's a very promising sign. Imagine what things would be like if the Dems had a strong candidate for the general election.
 
Tero said:
In part Trump is getting what he wants just by campaigning. He gets to protest all the court cases and he gets fo belittle people. All good stuff for him. He does not want the daily or any work as president. It would take him a month or so to pass executive orders and then sit at Mar a Lago to sign a few bills. He would get excited if he passed a lot of revenge measures, that might keep him at the White House. But Mar a Lago for most of the winters. He is an old man after all.
Click to expand...
Hence Project 2025's 180-day playbook filled with goodies to keep trump writing those signatures.
 
Poll: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans believe Taylor Swift election conspiracy theory

By Azi Paybarah National reporter covering campaigns

About 18 percent of Americans say the conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift participating in a covert government operation to reelect President Biden is really true, according to a Monmouth University poll.

Of those who believe in the conspiracy, 71 percent identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, and 83 percent say they are likely to support former president Donald Trump if he is the Republican candidate in November, according to Monmouth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lection-news/#link-DBC5XNVVUBFPXMYYUKTIZA564Y
 
Dr.Sid said:
Covert operation ? I thought Biden is running for reelection quite openly.
Click to expand...

Yeah, that has me confused as well. Even if she wants Biden to win and is willing to endorse him, so what? A rich, popular entertainer saying Donald Trump is a dumb***? How is that a conspiracy?
 
Puppycow said:
Dems manage to flip a seat in the special election to replace George Santos:

Trump rages at ‘foolish’ GOP candidate who lost race for Santos’s New York House seat

With this pickup, the Republicans still control the House, 219-213, but it seems like a good sign for Democrats. Trump claims that the Republican lost because she didn't endorse Trump and tried to keep him at arm's length. She would have totally won with Trump's backing. I think she would have lost by an even bigger margin if she had run as a Trumpist, but what do you think? It seems to be about 54% to 46%.
Click to expand...

Great news! Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.
 
zorro99 said:
Poll: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans believe Taylor Swift election conspiracy theory

By Azi Paybarah National reporter covering campaigns

About 18 percent of Americans say the conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift participating in a covert government operation to reelect President Biden is really true, according to a Monmouth University poll.

Of those who believe in the conspiracy, 71 percent identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, and 83 percent say they are likely to support former president Donald Trump if he is the Republican candidate in November, according to Monmouth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lection-news/#link-DBC5XNVVUBFPXMYYUKTIZA564Y
Click to expand...

Pollsters are trolling! Boss move to get those clicks I must say.

The only way such a poll works is if you find the subset of people that are even aware of this new Swift conspiracy theory (I am now aware of it!)- which would naturally be popular in certain circles of media and internet. The results are predictable.

In other words, it isnt like those polls that find that 20% of people dont know that earth revolves around the sun where any adult can participate- and hopefully the premise is evident to all of them.
 
Sherkeu said:
Pollsters are trolling! Boss move to get those clicks I must say.

The only way such a poll works is if you find the subset of people that are aware of this new Swift conspiracy theory (I am now aware of it!)- which would naturally be popular in certain circles of media and internet. The results are predictable.

In other words, it isnt like those polls that find that 20% of people dont know that earth revolves around the sun where any adult can participate- and hopefully the premise is evident to all of them.
Click to expand...

If you say so. :rolleyes:

I know its hard to believe that this many people are this frickin dumb. BTW, the reason they know about it, is its been reported in many different right wing circles. From FoxNews to crazy ass ************* who are popular with Trump supporters, on Twitter. Charlie Kirk, Jessie Watters, and Jack Posobiec among others, have popularized it among the right.
 
Taylor was going to endorse Biden at the Super Bowl, but Kelse's little tantrum on the sidelines meant that the timing wasn't right. The current plan is for her to begin dating Tiger Woods, and announce their engagement/endorsement of Biden after he wins the Masters this year. Failing that they have deals in the works with LeBron at the NBA Finals and Mike Trout at the World Series.
 
zorro99 said:
Poll: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans believe Taylor Swift election conspiracy theory

By Azi Paybarah National reporter covering campaigns

About 18 percent of Americans say the conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift participating in a covert government operation to reelect President Biden is really true, according to a Monmouth University poll.

Of those who believe in the conspiracy, 71 percent identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, and 83 percent say they are likely to support former president Donald Trump if he is the Republican candidate in November, according to Monmouth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lection-news/#link-DBC5XNVVUBFPXMYYUKTIZA564Y
Click to expand...

You think that's stupid? Google Taylor Swift is a witch.
 
Brainster said:
Taylor was going to endorse Biden at the Super Bowl, but Kelse's little tantrum on the sidelines meant that the timing wasn't right. The current plan is for her to begin dating Tiger Woods, and announce their engagement/endorsement of Biden after he wins the Masters this year. Failing that they have deals in the works with LeBron at the NBA Finals and Mike Trout at the World Series.
Click to expand...

:boggled::boggled:

Though there are doubtless millions out there who could be convinced that some or all of that is true.
 
Lawrence O'Donnell knows his stuff:

It's about the money, donations that is, not about the nonsense questions reporters shout out at Biden as he walks by.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Lawrence O'Donnell knows his stuff:

It's about the money, donations that is, not about the nonsense questions reporters shout out at Biden as he walks by.
Click to expand...


Biden will need a lot more money. 4x the amount ---or even 10x....but maybe there is no amount?

Hillary spent 2x what Trump did. Biden needs maybe 4x at this point. Or maybe the money is just wasted because he cant campaign like any semblance of a normal thinking person.

Biden should just bow out and let the rest of the future funds go to the
now anticipated, awaited, and unprecedented 'new person' who will get many 10's of millions in super pumped up excited free media- of every type worldwide- due to it being the best reality show twist EVER. Dont need candidate money to get hype for all that! (Recall that most people are not erudite scholars thinking deeply about presidential election permutations for long term benefits)

.......If not someone new, Trump wins. 100%

Get ready.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom