Now you are using evidence that nobody else has seen and that you hadn't even acknowledged the existence of till it became necessary to support your argument. I've said all along that if there is evidence that refutes a theory that theory needs to be abandoned or adjusted to conform to the new facts. Since you have been personally attacking me for a theory that was solidly based on the available facts, why should I believe what you say when you pull this new photographic evidence out of thin air?
If what you claim about the shirts is true then they weren't rolled up as the prosecution claimed. I will set aside that part of my theory provisionally accepting your claim. It still leaves intact that the jacket could be pulled off trying to pull Meredith around, the pants also could have been pulled off though as Randy suggested they were unbuttoned.
The tearing off of the bra still requires a force vector out and down (relative to Meredith). Just grabbing the bra and lifting gives the out vector. To provide the down vector there must be an equal and opposite up vector applied on another part of her body. There aren't a lot of options for where that second vector can be applied. Maybe that is covered in the still missing part 3 video.
It was made clear a long time ago that images of Meredith would never be released. It is not a secret that the photographs are in existence. We have discussed the blood spatter evidence on Meredith's body numerous times and the photos came up again recently when discussing the defense wounds on Meredith's hands. Steve Moore and Ron Hendry analyzed all of the crime scene photographs when drawing their conclusions. I am sorry if you were unaware of this. I was not trying to throw out any new information to support an argument.
These photographs have been entrusted to a small group of people and great care has been taken to protect them. The information I provided comes from Mignini's forensic report which includes images of Meredith's body at the crime scene showing her shirt in two slightly different positions. Mignini's report uses selected crime scene photographs and autopsy photographs to detail the blood spatter on Meredith's body, the knife wounds to her neck, and the defensive wounds on her hands. This report is the only evidence I have showing Meredith's body. I was given this report because it supports the information available on Injusticeinperugia.org. We have been very careful to try and report the facts of this case, regardless of what the pro-guilt crowd has to say.
I will make it clear that I have not seen all of the photographs in the case file and I do not have them in my possession. I am not an expert and have no need to see them. I have the same edited video as everyone else. Care has been taken to limit the availability of this sensitive evidence and I agree with that 100%. Too bad Maresca didn't take the same care when displaying images in open court. But that's another story.
When I read your theory, I instantly saw that you were trying to push a theory that Meredith's clothes just happened to come off while she was being moved a very short distance and that you were theorizing that Guede accidentally digitally raped Meredith.
You also suggested that Guede was moving around in a zombie like state unaware of his actions. If that was the case he would have been found wandering around outside covered in blood. But we all know that he fled the scene and went dancing at a club. Hardly the actions of a person in a zombie like state.
I will be honest, I made no attempt to refute the details you provided because they did not reach a logical conclusion. I never once thought that I had photographs that could refute anything you said. I responded to your theory with the hope that I misunderstood your position. I became slightly irritated when you confirmed that you were standing behind your new theory.
You asked if someone with knowledge knew about the shirts so I provided an answer to the best of my knowledge. I have not pulled anything out of thin air. You ask for information that I was able to provide so I provided it.
You have done a lot of great work on this case. Why do you now feel the need to create wild theories just to see if someone is willing to argue with you? I don't view any of this as a game. If the spirit of debate outweighs the importance of this case with anyone here on JREF, I have no interest in participating in any of that.
I am hopeful that you will soon come to your senses and abandon your new-found theory. In the meantime I will do my best to not attempt to get in your way any further. There is not much more to say.
