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Stephen Colbert - Racist

From an interview with Salon:

What is the best way to work with white people, to get them on our side?

I don’t want them on our side.

You don’t want them on your side.

This is not reform, this is revolution.
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Would it be inflammatory to say that you think white men are sort of the enemy?

Um. I mean I think they are, and we might as well label it. Whiteness will always be the enemy.
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angrysoba said:
Jerry Seinfeld. What do I win? ;)
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https://www.google.com/#q=jerry+seinfeld+offensive

Seinfeld has also complained about "PC nonsense" recently, which according to some posters (myself not included) should be a warning sign that he wants to be offensive and not receive any negative feedback for it.

I don't think the goal of most comedians is to insult demographics of people. I think their goal is to be funny. But I'd imagine every full time comedian has offended people and been perceived as insulting some demographic or another.
 
Um. I mean I think they are, and we might as well label it. Whiteness will always be the enemy.
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I think the Chinese and Koreans who suffered at the hands of Japanese occupation during WWII might have a somewhat different view as to who constitutes the enemy.
 
arthwollipot said:
:nope:

But I guess if you believe gratuitous insults are a valid method of discourse, you are motivated to reason your way out of this. There are plenty of comedians who make a a perfectly good living without insulting entire demographics.

The right to free speech does not and should not carry with it an obligation to be offensive.
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And there are plenty of insanely popular (and hilarious) comedians that do use racial and/or offensive comedy. So, yes, it is a valid form of comedy. You are trying to stifle art because you don't like it and you are trying to silence people because you don't like what they have to say. That is sad.

ETA: When was the last time you went to comedy show?
 
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I wouldn't even call the Colbert offensive. What he does isn't offensive. I think the offense people feel is the rather stark way he parodies things people try to divert attention from. He's shining the light where people would rather things be kept dark. The offense isn't the act, the offense is what is revealed.

If the Republican party cleaned up its act and gained some moderate measure of sanity, Colbert would be out of that job. If he weren't leaving it already.
 
Mister Earl said:
I wouldn't even call the Colbert offensive. What he does isn't offensive. I think the offense people feel is the rather stark way he parodies things people try to divert attention from. He's shining the light where people would rather things be kept dark. The offense isn't the act, the offense is what is revealed.

If the Republican party cleaned up its act and gained some moderate measure of sanity, Colbert would be out of that job. If he weren't leaving it already.
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Now we get to speculate about who will replace Colbert. I vote Aasif Mandvi.
 
marplots said:
Now we get to speculate about who will replace Colbert. I vote Aasif Mandvi.
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Tony said:
I'm hoping for Larry Wilmore.
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John Hodgman is the only member of the TDS family who could reasonably be expected to do a regular talk show in character as well as Colbert. They could go in a different direction with the time slot but if the idea is to something similar, it's Deranged Millionaire FTW.
 
Babbylonian said:
John Hodgman is the only member of the TDS family who could reasonably be expected to do a regular talk show in character as well as Colbert. They could go in a different direction with the time slot but if the idea is to something similar, it's Deranged Millionaire FTW.
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Lewis Black does a great "outraged" though...

Maybe some kind of tag-team or rotation?
 
ThunderChunky said:
And there are plenty of insanely popular (and hilarious) comedians that do use racial and/or offensive comedy. So, yes, it is a valid form of comedy. You are trying to stifle art because you don't like it and you are trying to silence people because you don't like what they have to say. That is sad.

ETA: When was the last time you went to comedy show?
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See, here's the problem. You're attributing motives that aren't in evidence. You are saying that the purpose of so-called "political correctness" is to stifle art. It isn't. The purpose of so-called "political correctness" is to foster good relations and sensitivity towards other people. Art (and comedy) have nothing at all to do with it. People like you take this idea of sensitivity and turn it around so that it becomes a personal attack on you. It isn't.

I'm not trying to stifle art. I have never tried to stifle art, and I would never do so. I do, however, think that people should be more understanding of other peoples opinions and beliefs, and, yes, feelings.

Why do you feel that this is an attack? Have I hit a nerve?
 
arthwollipot said:
The purpose of so-called "political correctness" is to foster good relations and sensitivity towards other people.
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Let's accept that premise as correct. Would you not agree that sometimes that effort to foster good relations and sensitivity towards others may go too far or otherwise veer into ridiculousness?
 
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