proudfootz
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Yes but also
Romans 1:3 ... regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, 4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
I suppose these things can be harmonised by the equation descendant of David = Son of God. Solomon was described as both these things.
Paul doesn't make himself abundantly clear. Perhaps he didn't have a clear idea himself? He tries so hard to be all things to all men.
The progressive elaboration of the supernatural element of the Jesus figure from one source to the next within the Gospels.
I suppose if we arrange the texts that way, it would appear to be a progression. But I think it is dubious to use a straight linear model for texts that might represent different communities that might be contemporaries.
Progress would appear to imply a particular timeline, something which is still highly speculative.
Doubts regarding what?
That 'For Paul, Jesus became a special being at the Resurrection' as Paul seems to describe him as his own son at the start of the mission where Jesus is clothed in the likeness of a human.
Aware of them as an abomination perpetrated by idolaters no doubt. I mean not simply that the Jews knew about such things, but that they accepted them sufficiently to evolve a dying and rising Godman religion. I find that improbable for the Second Temple period.
I'm not suggesting pious Jews took this route. Maccabees indicates some Jews were amenable to outside influences, and the fact that the Septuagint was commissioned by Ptolomey II indicates attraction the other way.
That the literature about this new savior religion seems to come from outside Judea indicates that it incubated far from the center of orthodox Judaism.
As you please. But Acts 2:22 has Peter proclaiming Jesus as a man chosen by God and raised back to life by him; he doesn't depict Jesus as a dying and rising God, or as an aspect of the unique Jewish divinity.
It is an interesting speech. The HJ - whose teachings were supposed to be the focus of his career - is replaced entirely by a kind of talisman faith in whom confers magical properties.
Paul is not entirely consistent, I agree: we have both quoted from Romans two passages that are not easy to harmonise.
It does pose problems for trying to pin down Paul as being anything in particular - he seems to be a bit of a chameleon.