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You also mean how come when I tried to click onto my notifications my computer got attacked?

Not with the CIA are you?
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The database error everyone got. It was an.....
April Fools prank by the moderators, the CIA, NWO, Bilderbergers, Illuminati, Group of 7, Knights Templar, and Masons had nothing to do with it.
 
Do I have to make citations, or have you already read them seeing you are involved in a conspiracy discussion....
You don't have to make citations. But I don't have to assume you have faintest idea what you are typing either. And yes, I am in conspiracy discussion? So what? I should just know what flavour of wild fantasy you are wittering on about?

No.

wouldn't that be the agenda you would first follow?

Agenda?

My agenda was simple. It was "1) ask for a citation. 2) look at citation to see if there is any basis for this claim." However, it has now changed to "ponder why there are too many yellow jelly babies and not enough red jelly babies in any given bag."
 
You believe religion then, do you? I thought you believed in Science?
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No, I am a licensed scientist. I have the degree!!!... :)
Religion... specifically the one you are promoting, was thought up by a group of sheepherders who wanted someone to "explain" the workings of the world to them. Any number of fast talkers volunteered for the job, and although not knowing anything about the way the world works, did know human nature, and came up with gods and devils and angels and spirits and sprites, weaving fanciful tales of how the speaker was -the- mouthpiece for these imaginary creatures, and was therefore to be paid handsomely for telling these lies to the frightened... who became more frightened the more the tale-spinner spoke.. and so today we have magnificent pieces of architecture around the world from the frightened, to house the sooth-sayers in their scarlet robes and tailored suits.
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How could any human being ascertain such unrealistic information when they live and survive in a complete created state a state that did not exist or a consciousness that did not exist when pre existing information existed.
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Tangled, that is... The "unrealistic information" was made up by the tale-spinners.
Our human consciousness does permit us to observe a phenomena and through thought AND experiment determine the validity thereof.
Think about gravity. No one has ever see a "gravity", and yet we understand what it is and does, and manipulate it to get results that benefit us. Airplane flight. Look at the manuvers the space probes to other planets perform, using only gravity as the mechanism to modify their positions around these planets, and proceed to the next one.
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This is why Scientists are so ego driven, they create machines from their own conscious ideas. They study creation through these machines using their own thought processes and state "they know it all". Yet was your consciousness involved in this state of awareness? The answer is NO, how could it when the consciousness you have belongs to an evolved situation.

Therefore you use information that did not exist when the pre ceding information existed. Who do you think you are looking back at it stating you understand it through a non identifiable self? Ego maniacs is the reason humanity via archaeological evidence destroyed their lives several times enmasse on Planet Earth.....seems like your the next generation to achieve it also.
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Scientists LOVE to be right! And other scientists do a good job at seeing that most of us ARE right when we do things.
Egos do drive most human endeavors. It's up to those affected as to the direction those egos take their societies. Crazy people litter history.
The Book you prefer (apparently) is one of the driving defects that has destroyed many peoples over the years.
 
Fooey. Now I have a chunk of that song looping in my head. I'm gonna lie in bed trying to get to sleep with flashbacks of childhood carsickness. Man, I'd almost managed to forget that. Now I can even remember the feel of the bubble plastic seat covers on the rear bench of that stupid Buick.

Blearg!
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Getcherself another dog! Sleep well! :)
 
Hilited the important bits, Using a rebuilt enigma machine, a copy of the DVD 'The Da Vinci code', A calculator, Two bags of scrabble letters and a halfdone sudoku puzzle I have deciphered "wendy's" message.


Scientists after studying the cheese composition of the moon found out how to make well fitting blue jeans [Levi] that make you float[levitation], However washing them on anything more abrasive[coral castle] then the delicate setting will damage them irreparably.

Hah! Now by reverse engineering, I may be able to determine which sudoku puzzle you were working on!

A much more entertaining puzzle than the OP, which consists of 48.9% baked propositions and a healthy dose of excessive verbosity.
 
wendy moir said:
This is why Scientists are so ego driven, they create machines from their own conscious ideas. They study creation through these machines using their own thought processes and state "they know it all".
More types of quotes I absolutely love.

First, scientists do create new machines. I've got a few odds and ends I've developed or modified for my own purposes. However, we don't do so purely out of our own heads--we design machines and tools based on the needs of our analyses, which means: based on reality. Nature, to be analyzed, must be obeyed.

Second, no scientist I know thinks we "know it all". In fact, most are extremely, even painfully aware of our lack of knowledge. I do not know a single historical scientist that doesn't lament taphonomy--the grinding processes of wind, rain, burrowing worms, and time erase vast swaths of information, making it not only unknown but completely unknowable. I will never see a T. rex in her glory, feading her young, and while I may be able to prove some aspects of it there are mysteries forever beyond me.

As for ego, most of the ones I've met are very proud of their knowledge, as rightly they should be--it's hard-won, requiring decades of study and vast effort, often at the risk of the scientist's own life (we are VERY careful not to risk other people's lives, but we're okay with putting our own butts on the line). However, we also are very aware of how little power humans have. As much as we know, we can't create a clam shell, or alter the path of a single planet (asteroids are an open question). We are also far more awed by nature than most. I remember seeing mothballs recrystalize under a microscope at one point, and it was nearly a religious experience--to see a solid-state reaction, and know why it occurred, was overpowering.

We are not arrogant. We don't back down from our positions without good reason, but we also don't hold our positions without good reason. But in the end, reality is the final arbiter.

Also, there's peer review. You ever want to have the wind taken out of your sails, submit a paper for peer review. It is brutal. And then the REAL review starts, if you're really, really lucky.

Ego maniacs is the reason humanity via archaeological evidence destroyed their lives several times enmasse on Planet Earth
As a species we only came close to extinction once. Various populations suffered catastrophic reductions, but on the whole things seem to have gotten better and better through the ages. Even eras of supposed cultural collapse are now understood to be far less catastrophic than people think (the Middle Ages didn't start with a bang, nor were the Dark Ages [Early Middle Ages] actually as dark as people think). You've completely misrepresented archaeology--which, I should add, is a science, that thing you were calling arrogant and evil the paragraph above. I've actually done some archaeological work, and work closely with archaeologists. It's fun, as long as I don't have to dig up bones (I do not like dealing with dead humans).
 
It won't take. Does it make sense to you that she'd post this stuff here, on a potential CIA site in full public view of the US government, masons, and whoever all that gibberish is warning about (if it is a warning - if not, what)??

It's soapbox preaching, and we're the drive-by flock.
 
It won't take. Does it make sense to you that she'd post this stuff here, on a potential CIA site in full public view of the US government, masons, and whoever all that gibberish is warning about (if it is a warning - if not, what)??

It's soapbox preaching, and we're the drive-by flock.

Well, if you look at any of the responses, it's pretty clear that wendy has not read them at all. Perforce, responses are pointless. Amusing chew toy for some for a while maybe, but ultimately boring.

ETA: I should add my voice. I also have no clue what she is on about. I understand the individual words, but the sentences elude me.
 
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I sense she's a missionary, trying to recruit some unbaptized/unwashed-in-the-blood-of-the-lamb/condemned-to-Hell-unless atheists.
It can't turn well here, but she might get a handle on how hard it is to peddle fantasy in this century.
 
I sense she's a missionary, trying to recruit some unbaptized/unwashed-in-the-blood-of-the-lamb/condemned-to-Hell-unless atheists.
It can't turn well here, but she might get a handle on how hard it is to peddle fantasy in this century.
I would have thought that even for a fantasy peddling missionary, intelligibility might be a primary requirement.
 
Not I.

Wendy, could you explain in a concise way exactly what this prediction is?

-Human beings and their remains inside of coal demonstrate that previous humans lived in times stated to not involve human life or evolution as a process as a scientific review. This would support biblical evidence rather than Scientific theory.
-de-evolution was a theory proposed by archaeological evidence that human beings in our ancient past caused the Earth to be irradiated by the Sun, turning her into a coal body.
-radiation from this attack therefore altered the atmospheric condition and when Nature returned by replaced oxygen in the atmosphere it was mutated and eventually via natural selection the mutations were removed from genetic conception
-this would provide a reason for an atmospheric condition into a evolution of replacing the cellular information back into a higher intelligence, where the same sort of scientific information could be accessed through the same brain condition
-to propose ancient wisdom would quantify to question how a human being first thought about astronomy or science as an exploration and self expression function
-this would be an informed review, which would have involved witnessing falling star bodies burning out at night time. The increase of these burning bodies would have been a warning that also involved identifiable cellular reactions.
-therefore past situations involved building structures that today's secret orders maintain was masonry, sacred or holy buildings
-reviewing these orders demonstrates that they pursued alchemists and astronomers, murdered and jailed them. The question would be, why?
-reading the religious documents as a quantifiable evidence of pre historical disasters reveals that human beings were involved in STONE LEVITATION practices and that altering atomic bonds at a radiation level caused falling stars or meteors to hit the Earth.
-evidence is always involved in self experience and this self experience is expressed in ancient literature, studied by many intellectual pursuits
-evidence via ancient literature involves floods, volcanic eruptions and earthquakes, including plagues.
-evidence today is an increase in natural disasters and plagues that involve the blood and also the cellular matter. Ebola, blood oozes from out of the cells
-religious data relates to Christ stigmata as blood oozing from out of the body as a sign or holy warning
-psychic premonition as dreams, caused by disturbed brain chemical interactions gives and causes visions and also conscious awareness as another warning of evidence
-this ancient practice for informed shamanism was used in drug taking situations, where they proposed they communed with spirits, how they gain viable and informed alchemical information as demonstrated even today by them.
-therefore the warnings for experimenting and applying radiation as a predictive future would suggest what happened in our ancient past that provides this evidence.
-what happened in the past therefore warns us of what will happen in the future via the evidence and the data
-Russia hit in the early 1900s when radiation was being experimented on is evidence.
-Russia hit a 100 years later with a meteor is the next evidence
-human beings worldwide suffering from stigmata effects and also paranormal incidences
-the Christ Acts state as a review that the ancients were aware that after the Earth was irradiated by the Sun and turned into a charcoal body, the situation was saved from the atmosphere falling onto the face of Earth as a huge release of water
-the Christ Acts involve denominators of time involving values of 10, 100 and 1000
-after the meteors demonstrated by geological evidence hit Earth, the vapor released from out of volcanic eruptions placed water back into the atmosphere as the condition for the Holy return.
-the evidence for a total life decimation is the human remains found in COAL
-therefore when you read spiritual information it advises that real incidences were studied in our ancient past by intelligent and informed human beings via their own questions and observations
-they recorded this information for a teaching purpose to maintain life and a future and taught it as religion.
-their religion taught that levitation was used in the factor of LEVI.
-applying levitation stone lightening procedures would therefore have supplied them with evidence that it caused meteor showers, increased natural disasters and also caused cellular diseases and blood ooze as stigmata.
-the Christ said to be the act of stigmata would be the evidence that the holy spirit was being sacrificed in the Heavenly atmospheric condition, just as related in ancient documents
-this is why the Christ act is also in the Old Testaments and also related to other named events.
-just as we do today, humans name hurricanes and also cyclones, hence the ancients also used this practice for recording information of natural disasters.
-Therefore in our ancient past the technique for levitation was still being applied and the evidence was that it caused a huge body to be sacrificed in the atmosphere (holy spirit body) by the alchemical crossings
-the 12 relating to TIME would verify this calculated situation
-Tibetan Monks in common time still understood the practice of levitation as proof that this would be the cause of the attacks.....alteration of the sound bonds of radiation on an atomic level.

NASA is currently involved in the study of the sound of radiation.

As a human being affected by Science and ridiculed by some of you via the link you made to some literature I had discussed, I wrote this information as personal evidence regarding a situation I am personally involved in.

Conspiracy does not just involve supposed human beings with mental conditions or religious dogma. Conspiracy also involves self experience, and many families involved in the American situation have expressed their own life threats and also situations involved in the secret occult science practices being applied by NASA. The CIA use as a disinformation purpose mental health as a personal attack of anyone trying to inform the public.

This situation I am discussing is a complete review of how the NASA occult program became involved in the occult studies of the ancients, their levitation practices and also the historical evidence of archaeology. The situation involves the paranormal and NASA and the CIA have been heavily involved in these situations themselves.

It relates to the environmental condition that they are purposely causing by test studying human and animal life as an applied radiation signal trying to identify the first cellular bodies for their personal review for a BIO FUEL.

As what they are applying is killing off our cellular state, and I was personally affected by this study, I am correlating information for consideration of what our current life situation is involved with as an illegal occult science that involves the NWO agenda for regaining power in the world market both as a producer of a resource and also as a monetary solution.

Archaeological evidence and also geological evidence supplies a reason for human remains to be found in coal. It demonstrates a situation that involved the sun and the decimation of cellular life.

As NASA want a bio fuel, this involves cellular life. Why would human beings supposedly suddenly combust without causing other materials to combust in the burning evidence......because they are cellular life.

Think about the reality of this situation, I am not the first person to reason about a real conspiracy and what purpose the conspiracy involves.

What I have proposed as consideration is an identifiable system being used as a radio transmission (radio activity-radiation) that would also be used to affect a brain/mind condition, a condition we use for personal choice. As human beings have implied that mind control is a NWO agenda, and the UFO body photographed at the 911 building involving money making world choices materialized, then wouldn't it need to be considered as a fact via its evidence.

UFO evidence as previous fall out as historical evidence implies that by biblical data 2012 was when the radioactive or radiated signals caused by the ancient use of levitation in their building practices would have ended. India as an 8000 year old event of a nuclear attack of some form in archaeological evidence would have been healed by a correlated data review of astronomical readings.

Sanskrit after all has also been studied and seemed to imply to some form of nuclear event as discussed.

Obviously if Scientists began to irradiate the atmosphere again, the 2012 End of Time event was not met as an atmospheric healing or evolution function and UFO began to increase in fallout and materialization in the burning oxygen body (Christ). This would have affected life as a paranormal situation, studied by NASA and the CIA and now is being purposefully applied by them via satellite transmission.

This would be why it related to an Act of Christ as an oxygen event as a review of biblical advice, a replacement of oxygen mass in Heaven as a Spirit Act as a Holy situation for spirit breath. Oxygenation would cause a genetic improvement and also a conscious change. This is what was predicted when you read ancient information and it seemed human beings were affected consciously by atmospheric changes to write about it.

As we relate TIME to nuclear and atomic events, then it would be a reasonable insight to this biblical data.
 
ZOMG - is this actually a variant of the Gaia hypothesis spooged into a Christianity framework?
 
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No, I am a licensed scientist. I have the degree!!!... :)
Religion... specifically the one you are promoting, was thought up by a group of sheepherders who wanted someone to "explain" the workings of the world to them. Any number of fast talkers volunteered for the job, and although not knowing anything about the way the world works, did know human nature, and came up with gods and devils and angels and spirits and sprites, weaving fanciful tales of how the speaker was -the- mouthpiece for these imaginary creatures, and was therefore to be paid handsomely for telling these lies to the frightened... who became more frightened the more the tale-spinner spoke.. and so today we have magnificent pieces of architecture around the world from the frightened, to house the sooth-sayers in their scarlet robes and tailored suits.
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Tangled, that is... The "unrealistic information" was made up by the tale-spinners.
Our human consciousness does permit us to observe a phenomena and through thought AND experiment determine the validity thereof.
Think about gravity. No one has ever see a "gravity", and yet we understand what it is and does, and manipulate it to get results that benefit us. Airplane flight. Look at the manuvers the space probes to other planets perform, using only gravity as the mechanism to modify their positions around these planets, and proceed to the next one.
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Scientists LOVE to be right! And other scientists do a good job at seeing that most of us ARE right when we do things.
Egos do drive most human endeavors. It's up to those affected as to the direction those egos take their societies. Crazy people litter history.
The Book you prefer (apparently) is one of the driving defects that has destroyed many peoples over the years.

Unrealistic informed experiments.
1. Evolved states cannot be removed from the study data.
2. Oxygen is an evolved state ice proves this, as ice provides evidence of a higher oxygen state in our ancient history.
3. You review situations that involve human evolution, humans do not exist where stars are created or where Suns burn, nor do we exist where radiation is radiating.

Yet, you contact radiation as if we don't exist.....therefore uninformed egotistical nature of your human brain.....what do you think would eventually happen to cellular matter, an evolution that has taken millions of years to evolve as cellular information.......it would demonstrate its destruction.

Therefore cows suddenly get attacked by radiating bodies....UFOs destroy their cellular matter, followed by a cow disease.

Suddenly human beings demonstrate to be attacked in UFO incidences, that produce evidence of cellular loss and also cellular alteration......followed by diseases.

Who are you kidding!
 
More types of quotes I absolutely love.

First, scientists do create new machines. I've got a few odds and ends I've developed or modified for my own purposes. However, we don't do so purely out of our own heads--we design machines and tools based on the needs of our analyses, which means: based on reality. Nature, to be analyzed, must be obeyed.

Second, no scientist I know thinks we "know it all". In fact, most are extremely, even painfully aware of our lack of knowledge. I do not know a single historical scientist that doesn't lament taphonomy--the grinding processes of wind, rain, burrowing worms, and time erase vast swaths of information, making it not only unknown but completely unknowable. I will never see a T. rex in her glory, feading her young, and while I may be able to prove some aspects of it there are mysteries forever beyond me.

As for ego, most of the ones I've met are very proud of their knowledge, as rightly they should be--it's hard-won, requiring decades of study and vast effort, often at the risk of the scientist's own life (we are VERY careful not to risk other people's lives, but we're okay with putting our own butts on the line). However, we also are very aware of how little power humans have. As much as we know, we can't create a clam shell, or alter the path of a single planet (asteroids are an open question). We are also far more awed by nature than most. I remember seeing mothballs recrystalize under a microscope at one point, and it was nearly a religious experience--to see a solid-state reaction, and know why it occurred, was overpowering.

We are not arrogant. We don't back down from our positions without good reason, but we also don't hold our positions without good reason. But in the end, reality is the final arbiter.

Also, there's peer review. You ever want to have the wind taken out of your sails, submit a paper for peer review. It is brutal. And then the REAL review starts, if you're really, really lucky.

As a species we only came close to extinction once. Various populations suffered catastrophic reductions, but on the whole things seem to have gotten better and better through the ages. Even eras of supposed cultural collapse are now understood to be far less catastrophic than people think (the Middle Ages didn't start with a bang, nor were the Dark Ages [Early Middle Ages] actually as dark as people think). You've completely misrepresented archaeology--which, I should add, is a science, that thing you were calling arrogant and evil the paragraph above. I've actually done some archaeological work, and work closely with archaeologists. It's fun, as long as I don't have to dig up bones (I do not like dealing with dead humans).

(I do not like dealing with dead humans).
Must be why you get the CIA to murder them for you!

You act as if Science is everything we need, yet it demonstrates to be everything we never needed.

We have lived comfortably without invention, and when invention was demonstrated it destroyed us.

Our current life situation is demonstrating that we are de-evolving again because of the mutated cellular conditions re-appearing in our Nature. Our de-evolution is caused by Scientists changing the natural condition in which we survive cellular replacement.....oxygen mass.

The Christ was therefore a reasonable over view by ancient astronomers regarding our Heavenly atmospheric condition and if it was altered what it produced because of it.

A Scientist driven by his own ego mania demonstrates to us that he believes himself to be the Creator, yet his creations demonstrate to be destructive of the natural conditions. You cannot argue this review as there is too much data providing this evidence that your purposefully ignore for your own egotistical pursuits.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...niv&sa=X&ei=tR8-U-7nGorSkgXQ-4BI&ved=0CCkQsAQ

Whenever Science is proven incorrect it suddenly is called a hoax.
 
(I do not like dealing with dead humans).
Must be why you get the CIA to murder them for you!

You act as if Science is everything we need, yet it demonstrates to be everything we never needed.

We have lived comfortably without invention, and when invention was demonstrated it destroyed us.

Our current life situation is demonstrating that we are de-evolving again because of the mutated cellular conditions re-appearing in our Nature. Our de-evolution is caused by Scientists changing the natural condition in which we survive cellular replacement.....oxygen mass.

The Christ was therefore a reasonable over view by ancient astronomers regarding our Heavenly atmospheric condition and if it was altered what it produced because of it.

A Scientist driven by his own ego mania demonstrates to us that he believes himself to be the Creator, yet his creations demonstrate to be destructive of the natural conditions. You cannot argue this review as there is too much data providing this evidence that your purposefully ignore for your own egotistical pursuits.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...niv&sa=X&ei=tR8-U-7nGorSkgXQ-4BI&ved=0CCkQsAQ

Whenever Science is proven incorrect it suddenly is called a hoax.

This is a somewhat ignorant claim, considering that science invented the tools you are using to create the post....
 
Hopefully some of the aviation people here can help me answer this question.

This blog has this photo on it, and it's getting around FB via a bunch of chemtrailers who claim this is proof of something something something chemtrails.

I did a search with Tineye and found this source. It appears to be, and the discussion below sort of confirms, that this is some sort of ballast testing setup. Is that what it is? I'd like some more info on that from anyone who has done flight test work and could give me some more detail about what is going on in this pic.

Thanks

NASA studying radiation from upper atmospheric condition to lower Earth strata causing the CHEMTRAILS to manifest in the atmosphere through purposeful studies for a BIO FUEL.

Evidence is the atmospheric striations and ground patterns received via radiation releases of the stone
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/windmillhill/comments.html
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/leylines.htm

Fall out received as angelic hair condition
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2013/angels-hair.html

Roswell UFO crash in 1947
Spiro Antiochos, NASA Goddard received AGU's John Adam Fleming Medal. The
Medal was awarded to Spiro for his work in space science. Fleming served as AGU officer in a number of positions, including: secretary of the Terrestrial Magnetism and Atmospheric Electricity section (1920–1929), Union General Secretary (1925–1947), and honorary president (1947–1956).

Spiro is an internationally recognized authority on space physics and plasma physics. His research is distinguished by the development of innovative theories to explain major observational problems, such as coronal mass ejections and solar flares, the primary drivers of destructive space weather here at Earth. Among his many important contributions are his pioneering models for: the observed structure and dynamics of the solar atmosphere including hot coronal loops and the transition region that links the corona to the chromosphere; the formation of prominences/filaments that are the storage locations for the energy that leads to major solar eruptions; the initiation mechanism for the largest explosions in our solar system, coronal mass ejections and eruptive flares, and the origins of the slow solar wind that connects the sun to the Earth. In addition, Spiro has been responsible for major advances in understanding magnetic reconnection, the physical process underlying much of space weather.

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20140131/

Government testing an illegal practice involves the occult studies at NASA as a program to ascertain physical anomalies in human cellular conditions as a data informed study regarding the formation of cellular matter.

As Nature is the only cellular matter, NASA has been studying us as if the atmosphere is a giant science lab for their own purpose.

A skin rash epidemic has been publicized in the American public regarding chemtrails.

Ancient literature provides the same evidence of angel hair fallout and the Sun.
Reference ancient literature pictures showing white filaments draping from trees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaterasu

Religious documents written as an advice discusses the signs to see when the Holy atmospheric condition as the spirit of life is sacrificed.....Christ stigmata or bleeding from the cellular condition.

Ebola is an identifiable situation involving stigmata, just as is the actual cases of the forming of stigmata as scientific evidence of atmospheric abuses.
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/albums/a/20/Stigmata

As the stone has to cool for the striations to be held in the stone as crop circle patterns, then volcanic eruptions demonstrate to be involved in an advice for radiation striations occurring as a atmospheric WARNING of huge natural disasters approaching.

Angel hair fallout seen with visions of Fatima.....when radiation experiments were being conducted followed by Russia incident 1900s.

1980 volcanic eruption America
Study of ANGEL HAIR
www.cufos.org/boldman.pdf‎

Oct 22, 1973 - concluding that physical trace cases, such as angel hair, might provide the best evidence for the reality of UFOs. he fall of odd, gossamer-like ...
James Hansen, study leader from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), as well as GISS researchers Makiko Sato and Reto Ruedy, have concluded that summer heat waves (mainly in the U.S. Midwest) have become the norm over the last 30 years compared to a base period 30 years before 1980 -- and it's because of global warming
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/li...dailytech.com/nasa-hotter-summers/index.shtml

Radiation tests and experiments and applications therefore provide the evidence that CLOUD FORMATION in the atmosphere is BEING BURNT, we are losing our ATMOSPHERE because of Scientists.

The evidence provides us the observation for public outcry.
 

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