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Presidential Primaries 2016

The UK bookmakers have a somewhat different line-up


Sarah Palin's odds are all over the place; some betting sites are offering odds as short as 26/1 while others peg it closer to 143 /1

Jon Huntsman's odds range from 34/1 up to 124/1

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Betfair appears to still be offering a lay bet on C.Christie. If you put up £14.5 and Christie loses, they will pay you £1.

That site is also offering 42/1 for Jindal win and 1/44 for a Jindal loss.

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Nevada legalized betting on politics just a few months ago. I don't know of any U.S. casinos taking bets at this point. (I think the bets must be made in Nevada - no domestic internet betting)
 
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L.Y.S. said:
Why is Christie out for President? Holy crap I must've missed something huge...

But seriously, I didn't catch what disqualified him? :confused:
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It's huge, but I don't think you've missed it. C. Christie has been scratched because he's standing in a huge hole in the ground, from which he has no prayer of climbing out because the walls are wet and crumbling. Does anyone think that, "I don't know why my people closed access lanes to the bridge and the worst thing they ever did was lie to me when I never even bothered to ask them why they did it," is ever going to run for president? The dream is dead.
 
hgc said:
It's huge, but I don't think you've missed it. C. Christie has been scratched because he's standing in a huge hole in the ground, from which he has no prayer of climbing out because the walls are wet and crumbling. Does anyone think that, "I don't know why my people closed access lanes to the bridge and the worst thing they ever did was lie to me when I never even bothered to ask them why they did it," is ever going to run for president? The dream is dead.
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I'm really gonna miss looking at ABC interviews with President Christie talking about his increased culinary staff to feed the hungriest president since Taft :(.
 
Spindrift said:
You think he has a chance to recover in time?
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I never even knew this bridge scandal was this huge. I just heard about it, but I didn't know the details until now.

Yeah, I really don't know the answer to that question. Christie was like the de facto front man of a resurgent GOP. I can't really see the GOP winning 2016 with him gone. Too many unlikable faces and hardliners.
 
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hgc said:
I can't believe I made it this far and failed to include even a single morning television show host. Even though I don't think Joe Scarborough will run for president in 2016, he sure has become mentionable. Welcome to ol' Joe!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-scarborough-2016

GOP
P. Ryan
C. Christie
M. Rubio
J. Bush
M. Bachmann
W. "M." Romney
S. Palin (again of Fox News)
M. Huckabee
T. Pawlenty
J. Thune
S. Walker
D. Trump, President of Never Gonna Run for President (and Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
R. Paul (le fils)
J. DeMint
N. Haley
S. Martinez
R. Santorum
M. Pence
C. Rice
R. "T." Cruz
P. "B." Jindal
J. Brewer
J. Kasich
B. Carson
R. "B." McDonnell
J. Huntsman
T. Nugent (Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
P. King
J. Bolton (Funny facial hair never wins)
H. Cain
J. Scarborough

Dem
H. Clinton
J. Biden
M. Warner
M. O’Malley
A. Klobuchar
C. Booker
A. Villaraigosa
B. Schweitzer
K. Gillibrand
A. Cuomo
R. Emmanuel
M. Cantwell
E. Warren
Ju. Castro
D. Patrick
H. Dean
E.G. "J." Brown

Indeterminate
M. Bloomberg
J. Ventura
B. Sanders
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Joe Scarborough is no longer considered a Republican within his party. That’s his first problem.
 
Wow, so this morning on Morning Joe, there was a vomit-inducing feature report about J. Scarborough's trip to NH and the buzz around the potential something or other. It was narrated by a breathless Mika Brzezinski and had some of that NBC News featurette theme music that made me stop watching the Today Show once and for all.

Oh, but what's this? Is someone selling a book? http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-scarborough-president-signing-books
 
The Ukraine crisis could be a game changer; Foreign policy could become a much bigger factor.
Rand Paul is going to have a rough time satisfying both Mainstream Republicans and his core Ron Paulian consistency in Foreign Policy, given Ron's basically supporting Putin in a USA today op ed piece. The balancing act Rand is trying to pull just got a lot harder.
 
dudalb said:
The Ukraine crisis could be a game changer; Foreign policy could become a much bigger factor.
Rand Paul is going to have a rough time satisfying both Mainstream Republicans and his core Ron Paulian consistency in Foreign Policy, given Ron's basically supporting Putin in a USA today op ed piece. The balancing act Rand is trying to pull just got a lot harder.
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Personally, I doubt he'll have that much difficulty: I think he'll always go mainstream. The Ronulans (still my favorite nickname) may be upset by this "betrayal" but he's still the royal scion and they're probably quite good at rationalizing things they don't agree with away.
 
Easy come, easy go. J. Scarborough has apparently become alarmed that his alleged presidentin' ambitions have been trumpeted (most notably by his own employer, MSNBC) and has put the kibosh on the whole thing. He certainly deserves credit for cutting the string on that pinata. Now he can get back to flogging his new book in a more honest context.

Of course it's easy to know, among the mentionables that are employed by TV news channels, who is in and who is out. Look at Fox News in 2011/12. They pushed out their employees/contractors who were going to run (Gingrich, Santorum) and kept on those who were not (Palin, Huckabee, Bolton). Meanwhile, Fox News continued on air to pretend like they didn't know, among that group, who was going to run. Very silly.


GOP
P. Ryan
C. Christie
M. Rubio
J. Bush
M. Bachmann
W. "M." Romney
S. Palin (again of Fox News)
M. Huckabee
T. Pawlenty
J. Thune
S. Walker
D. Trump, President of Never Gonna Run for President (and Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
R. Paul (le fils)
J. DeMint
N. Haley
S. Martinez
R. Santorum
M. Pence
C. Rice
R. "T." Cruz
P. "B." Jindal
J. Brewer
J. Kasich
B. Carson
R. "B." McDonnell
J. Huntsman
T. Nugent (Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
P. King
J. Bolton (Funny facial hair never wins)
H. Cain
J. Scarborough

Dem
H. Clinton
J. Biden
M. Warner
M. O’Malley
A. Klobuchar
C. Booker
A. Villaraigosa
B. Schweitzer
K. Gillibrand
A. Cuomo
R. Emmanuel
M. Cantwell
E. Warren
Ju. Castro
D. Patrick
H. Dean
E.G. "J." Brown

Indeterminate
M. Bloomberg
J. Ventura
B. Sanders
 
dudalb said:
The Ukraine crisis could be a game changer; Foreign policy could become a much bigger factor.
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I doubt it unless we are in armed conflict in the immediate period just before the election. Voters tend to emphasize issues closer to home when in the voting booth, especially in troubled economic times like exist presently.
 
SezMe said:
I doubt it unless we are in armed conflict in the immediate period just before the election. Voters tend to emphasize issues closer to home when in the voting booth, especially in troubled economic times like exist presently.
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Especially when most Americans, if given a map, could not come within 900 miles of identifying the region involved.
 
elbe said:
Personally, I doubt he'll have that much difficulty: I think he'll always go mainstream. The Ronulans (still my favorite nickname) may be upset by this "betrayal" but he's still the royal scion and they're probably quite good at rationalizing things they don't agree with away.
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I agree, but it will be the mainstream Republicans who will decide he can;t really be trusted.
 
Whoopsie!

Chris Christie Apologizes For 'Occupied Territories' Remark, Says He 'Misspoke'

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) apologized Saturday for using the term "occupied territories" at an event hosted by billionaire GOP donor Sheldon Adelson, CNN and Politico report.

Andy Abboud, the senior vice president of Adelson's Las Vegas Sands Corp., told CNN that Christie later apologized for using the controversial term during a private meeting with the megadonor. According to Abboud, Christie said he "misspoke" during his Saturday speech and that he doesn't "believe that."

Politico offered similar details on the meeting:

The source told POLITICO that Christie “clarified in the strongest terms possible that his remarks today were not meant to be a statement of policy.”

Instead, the source said, Christie made clear “that he misspoke when he referred to the ‘occupied territories.’ And he conveyed that he is an unwavering friend and committed supporter of Israel, and was sorry for any confusion that came across as a result of the misstatement.”
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Adelson was reportedly satisfied with Christie's apology.
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I don't think this is a big deal politically, just a funny anecdote. I didn't even realize the term was such a taboo.

I wonder if we weren't too hasty in crossing Christie off the list though? He seems to be acting like he still has a political future.
 
Puppycow said:
I wonder if we weren't too hasty in crossing Christie off the list though? He seems to be acting like he still has a political future.
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I think he does. Writing off Cristie at this time is waaaaay premature. If Bush throws his hat in the ring, Christie is dead. Otherwise, not so much.
 
SezMe said:
I think he does. Writing off Cristie at this time is waaaaay premature. If Bush throws his hat in the ring, Christie is dead. Otherwise, not so much.
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C. Christie is whistling past the graveyard. I still predict that his fate is locked in - political mortality. Of course I can unstrike his name should that be a bad prediction.

It doesn't help either that he can't be bothered to do the basic research on How to Talk to Right-wing Billionaires (Jewish Auxiliary).
 
Thanks to the heads-up from SezMe, we can add Mike Rogers, retiring Rep from Michigan and outgoing chairman of the House Intel Committee, to our list of mentionables. Welcome to M. Rogers!

GOP
P. Ryan
C. Christie
M. Rubio
J. Bush
M. Bachmann
W. "M." Romney
S. Palin (again of Fox News)
M. Huckabee
T. Pawlenty
J. Thune
S. Walker
D. Trump, President of Never Gonna Run for President (and Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
R. Paul (le fils)
J. DeMint
N. Haley
S. Martinez
R. Santorum
M. Pence
C. Rice
R. "T." Cruz
P. "B." Jindal
J. Brewer
J. Kasich
B. Carson
R. "B." McDonnell
J. Huntsman
T. Nugent (Celebrity Jokebag Contingent)
P. King
J. Bolton (Funny facial hair never wins)
H. Cain
J. Scarborough
M. Rogers

Dem
H. Clinton
J. Biden
M. Warner
M. O’Malley
A. Klobuchar
C. Booker
A. Villaraigosa
B. Schweitzer
K. Gillibrand
A. Cuomo
R. Emmanuel
M. Cantwell
E. Warren
Ju. Castro
D. Patrick
H. Dean
E.G. "J." Brown

Indeterminate
M. Bloomberg
J. Ventura
B. Sanders
 
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