Merged Ukraine erupts in riots and general strike.

[TheRealnz]

RT [: "Urmas Paet said that snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders."

He didn't actually say that.

Also, once again RT is showing the same video of protesters with an air gun as "snipers".

He didn't say it was the opposition?

There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition,” Urmas Paet said during the conversation. “I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh,” Ashton answered.
The call took place after Estonia’s Foreign Minister Urmas Paet visited Kiev on February 25, following the peak of clashes between the pro-EU protesters and security forces in the Ukrainian capital.

Paet also recalled his conversation with a doctor who treated those shot by snipers in Kiev. She said that both protesters and police were shot at by the same people.
“And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides,” the Estonian FM stressed.
Ashton reacted to the information by saying: “Well, yeah…that’s, that’s terrible.”
“So that she then also showed me some photos she said that as a medical doctor she can say that it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it’s really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don’t want to investigate what exactly happened,” Paet said.
Olga Bogomolets was the main doctor for the Maidan mobile clinic when protests turned violent in Kiev. She treated the gravely injured and helped organized their transportation to neighboring countries, who had expressed a willingness to treat those with severe wounds. From the outset, Olga blamed the injuries and deaths on snipers. She turned down the position of Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine for Humanitarian Affairs offered by the coup-appointed regime.
The Estonian FM has described the whole sniper issue as “disturbing” and added, “it already discredits from the very beginning” the new Ukrainian power. His overall impressions of what he saw during his one-day trip to Kiev are “sad,” Paet said during the conversation. He stressed that the Ukrainian people don’t trust the Maidan leaders, with all the opposition politicians slated to join the new government “having dirty past.”
The file was reportedly uploaded to the web by officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to ousted President Viktor Yanukovich who hacked Paet’s and Ashton’s phones.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Russia Wags The Dog With Ukraine Disinformation Campaign

RFE/RL ... wait, isn't that the RT equivalent funded by Brainwashington?

 

[spin0]

Aaaand the Kremlin mouthpiece is loses another anchor: Video: RT Anchor Quits On Air

An American anchor working for state-owned television station Russia Today quit on air on Wednesday. Liz Wahl, in the network's D.C. bureau, said she could no longer be "part of a network that whitewashes the actions of Putin. I'm proud to be an American and believe in disseminating the truth, and that is why, after this newscast, I am resigning."

Good for her.

 

[Cleon]

Wow. RT anchors dropping like flies. I wonder where they're going to go? RT isn't exactly a resume-builder. Fox News won't like their politics, and they're probably too proud to work for CNN.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Aaaand the Kremlin mouthpiece is loses another anchor: Video: RT Anchor Quits On Air


Good for her.

Wow. RT anchors dropping like flies. I wonder where they're going to go? RT isn't exactly a resume-builder. Fox News won't like their politics, and they're probably too proud to work for CNN.

"Another"? "Like flies"? You guys aren't good at math, are you? 0+1=1. Cleon, don't worry for her - somehow I think she won't be in financial troubles soon as there will be a reward for that she almost managed to make us feel the statement she reads.

 

[trustbutverify]

So they were supposedly shooting cops and their own protesters in this leaked phone call. Backing neo-nazis was only going to go so far!

I can't post links yet but RT has a article on this on their main page.

I hear Stormfront has evidence Obama isn't a US citizen!

 

[TheRealnz]

Aaaand the Kremlin mouthpiece is loses another anchor: [

Good for her.

Could you please respond to the other post of mine regarding Paet earlier.

 

[dudalb]

Take it to the conspriacy theory forum, guy.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Abby Martin will be on the Piers Morgan Show in I guess two hours. What do you think, will she "resign" from evil RT live on ******* CNN or tear him a new one? My money is on the latter.

 

[dudalb]

Wow. RT anchors dropping like flies. I wonder where they're going to go? RT isn't exactly a resume-builder. Fox News won't like their politics, and they're probably too proud to work for CNN.

I admit, I have to admit I am getting a certain Claude Rains in Casablanca vibe from all these RT people finding out it is a Putin Protaganda Organ....

"I am Shocked..SHOCKED I TELL YOU...to find out that Russia Today distorts the news".....

 

[IDB87]

"Another"? "Like flies"? You guys aren't good at math, are you? 0+1=1. Cleon, don't worry for her - somehow I think she won't be in financial troubles soon as there will be a reward for that she almost managed to make us feel the statement she reads. [/yt]

There is no need to be upset.

But, be honest, you'd be excited if an anchor from the Anglo-Sphere defected on live television, even if it were only one.

 

[Caustic Logic]

That your work? 'Cause it ain't Ukraine saying anything.

Just watched it. It's propaganda that's already been discussed in this thread. Fascists on both sides. The difference is that you support the fascists on one side, and those of us who support the Ukraine's right to freedom from Russia condemn the fascists on both sides.

With all due respect, this is the same stupid thing you said before, by way of "debunk." I too denounce Nazis on both sides. Who are these Nazis on the Yanukovych side? Can you name them? Or provide evidence of any of this type of thing on the other side. I'd like to denounce them.

I've heard that the government claims Jews were partly leading the protests, and that lie is a good clue they're racists and the protesters not. I've also heard the protesters couldn't be Nazis, because they were partly led by Jews, led by our friend "Delta," who saw none of the Nazi stuff while fighting in these events, when I can see them just in video.

So, what besides that obvious fail? I'm willing to listen.I know anti-semitism and authoritarainism both linger plenty in the area. I'm looking for Nazi, fascist white supremacist dangerous thugs like these. Where were they in power before? Why is it not valid to say it's gotten way worse now that these guys are in power?

 

[spin0]

Could you please respond to the other post of mine regarding Paet earlier.

Okay.

He didn't say it was the opposition?

Urmas Paet didn't say that snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders.

If you listen to the whole conversation and the context you will hear that he is talking about rumours. They discuss a rumour that snipers were shooting from both sides with the same type of bullets, that there is a concern that the new coalition doesn't want to investigate and there is now a suspicion that someone from the new coalition could be behind the snipers. At this Ashton says that "I think that we do want to investigate."

And I it very well might apt to investigate such rumour.

 

[TheRealnz]

Take it to the conspriacy theory forum, guy.

With all due respect it isn't exactly a conspiracy theory. I posted his own words above, I would of appreciated an answer to it?

 

[trustbutverify]

There is no need to be upset.

But, be honest, you'd be excited if an anchor from the Anglo-Sphere defected on live television, even if it were only one.

Can you imagine the reaction from the truther types if that happened under similar circumstances? Think they'd accuse her/him of doing it under false pretenses?

 

[Childlike Empress]

I've heard that the government claims Jews were partly leading the protests, and that lie is a good clue they're racists and the protesters not. I've also heard the protesters couldn't be Nazis, because they were partly led by Jews, led by our friend "Delta," who saw none of the Nazi stuff while fighting in these events, when I can see them just in video.

One thing I learned from watching angrysoba's good professor is that Yats, neoconcubine Nuland's boy and current acting prime minister, is like his patroness a Jew. Whatever that means. Maybe something about her preference for him, maybe not. Maybe something about his relationship with people like Jarosh, maybe not. I say you just have to look at the two guys to have a good idea about the relationship between them. Sometimes it really is that simple.

spot the prime minister and the deputy head of the national security committee​

Nice video there. A bit, how do they say, "populistic", but I guess that was intentional.

 

[angrysoba]

Paet Says Leaked Call is Real, Disputes Context

Ah, that is interesting.

 

[angrysoba]

One thing I learned from watching angrysoba's good professor is that Yats, neoconcubine Nuland's boy and current acting prime minister, is like his patroness a Jew. Whatever that means. Maybe something about her preference for him, maybe not. Maybe something about his relationship with people like Jarosh, maybe not. I say you just have to look at the two guys to have a good idea about the relationship between them. Sometimes it really is that simple.

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/6ViKXZT.jpg[/qimg] [qimg]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Arseniy_Yatsenyuk_2014-02-01.jpg/220px-Arseniy_Yatsenyuk_2014-02-01.jpg[/qimg]
spot the prime minister and the deputy head of the national security committee​

Nice video there. A bit, how do they say, "populistic", but I guess that was intentional.

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what it is we are supposed to be looking at in those photographs.

Are you saying that Dmitry Jarosh and Arseniy Yatsenyuk are related somehow?

 

[spin0]

Not surprisingly; I certainly don't trust them myself given some of the CVs they have.

Apropos CVs, just happened to take look at the wiki of the new PM that Russia installed in Crimea: Sergey Aksyonov

Since 2010 he was a deputy of the Supreme Council of Crimea, elected as a member of Russian Unity, which had 4% of votes (warranting 3 seats of total 100 in Crimean parlament) during elections into Supreme Council of Crimea.
...
Sergey Aksyonov has a criminal past[8][9] going back to the 1990s together with Supreme Council Chairman, Volodymyr Konstantinov.[10] Aksyonov was called “Goblin” as a known member of an organised crime group "Salem" in Crimea.

Anyway, I am not particularly optimistic about much that's going on there.

Yup, neither.

 

[IDB87]

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what it is we are supposed to be looking at in those photographs.

Are you saying that Dmitry Jarosh and Arseniy Yatsenyuk are related somehow?

They both have stubble.

It's a start..?