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Merged Ukraine erupts in riots and general strike.
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I'm fairly certain that Europe could cover all of it's gas needs until next winter from other suppliers. Even if it has a cold spell now, it won't last more than a week or so. Maybe two up in the north, but that's it. The ground is already too warm and days too long for anything more.
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I told you eventually they would start breeding outside their own species and create hybrid offspring, but did anyone listen
?The provocateur title is hilarious.
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Childlike Empress
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Vitali Churkin at the UN Security Council:
Just as I suspected. They were going to use their front man and say he requested them.
They're gonna reinstall Yanukovych.
They're gonna reinstall Yanukovych.
dudalb
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CHina has decided it does not have a dog in this fight.
Le Monde seems to be getting quite exercised about it:
http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/articl...raine-et-l-union-europeenne_4376476_3214.html
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If you listen to his statement I just posted, you will see that he did nothing like saying "they requested them". He doesn't say anything about deployed troops, he says no decision has been made yet. AP parrots the crap the putschists come up with, hoping that the audience doesn't know that tens of thousands troops are on Crimea permanently, via contract, on the naval bases of the Russian Federation.
edit: I see I posted the statement from yesterday while he made another one just now. I'll look that up. Should he have said they deployed 16 thousand troops on J.'s demand, I'll call him a liar for what he said yesterday. If not, I'll call AP liars.
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dudalb
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God, that is like saying a thief showed restraint by just robbing the house and not burning it down.
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It's a good thing the Shah of Iran never requested US troops to "restore order".
Nice try but not even close. Russia could've very well conquered all of Georgia in less than 48 hours, and everyone knows this.
Could you post the link? Sorry, for whatever reason I can't view embedded videos on JREF. I need to go to the tech sub-forums.
They have their own crisis situation to deal with.
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A'isha
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Except the problem is that those Russian troops aren't on their leased naval bases any more, but instead are on Ukrainian soil, surrounding Ukrainian military bases to block access in and out and seizing ferry ports.
you're the one who is completely sidestepping the bigger issue here which is the NATO brand of cold war politics which it continues to use against Russia despite well the end of the Cold War. Let's side step the deliberate encirclement of Russia with hostile governments and the anti-missile defense system that the US wants in place in Eastern Europe, you know, the one that is a real threat to world peace and could actually destroy the balance of forces between these superpowers and make russia vulnerable. Lets forget about the fact that the West has targeted Russian allies for destabilization like Syria, Belarus, Venezuela and Ukraine and replace their governments with rabid anti-russian ones like the illegitimate neo-nazis now sitting in Kiev. So when russia makes a move to protect its interests, it is ultranationalist. but when the US assistant Secretary of State plans a coup and actually dictate what is going on in Kiev it is nothing but the free world being in solidarity with democratic forces
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You might think that this is a problem, and that might be debatable (although to a large extent being based on rumours, like the nonsense story about the "ultimatum"), but I for one think a much larger problem is that sources like AP are now openly lying and making up headlines that fit into their "invasion" scenario everybody but a rare few in the reality-based community are parroting. Here's Churkin's press conference just uploaded by the UN, and while the "16 thousand troops deployed" claim doesn't come up directly, from context it's clear that he is talking, like he did before, about actions of the Black Sea Fleet stationed there. The headline of the article L.Y.S. posted and the content of the first paragraphs is utterly misleading. 16 thousand troops "deployed", Churkin confirmed and says Janukovic "requested them". Total nonsense. What do you say about that? Concerned?
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Anxious days 
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reported that due to civil unrest, 23 missionaries serving in the Ukraine Dnepropetrovsk Mission have been removed from the Crimean peninsula and transferred to other areas within the mission as a precautionary measure.... circumstances may delay new missionaries from entering Ukraine. The Kyiv Ukraine Temple remains open to patrons."
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-statement-missionaries-ukraine
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reported that due to civil unrest, 23 missionaries serving in the Ukraine Dnepropetrovsk Mission have been removed from the Crimean peninsula and transferred to other areas within the mission as a precautionary measure.... circumstances may delay new missionaries from entering Ukraine. The Kyiv Ukraine Temple remains open to patrons."
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-statement-missionaries-ukraine
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