WTC Dust Study Feb 29, 2012 by Dr. James Millette

[DGM]

Chris:

You are being too hard on yourself. If Millette publishes is not going to change a thing. Several of us said this from the get go. Your work did what it was supposed to do, convince the people that wanted the truth.

As a person with religious belief you must know that science is not going to sway someone that has true conviction in their belief. True believers are going to believe.

You've done a great job. I'm proud to link to your work.

 

[beachnut]

... But in Harrit's defense, I agree that he is NOT senile, and it's a term that depresses me when it is bandied about. As a minister I have spent too much time with Alzheimer's patients, people with dementia, brain damaged veterans. the mentally ill, suicide victims and their families, attempted suicides, depression, drug and alcohol addictions, prisoners, sociopaths, etc etc etc. Niels and I are not likely to ever be friends, and we sure don't have much mutual respect, but senile? That's insulting to both him and to people who in fact suffer from the horrors of a rotting brain.

You are right, Harrit is a liar. A man who mocks those murdered on 911 by spreading idiotic lies of no 757, and thermite. A failed human, calling him senile apologizes for his lies. Gives him an excuse.

There is no defense for liars. Harrit has no excuse for spreading lies, he is a BS artist like all of 911 truth so called leaders of the failed 911 truth cult.

 

[chrismohr]

Hi DGM,
Thanks for the encouragement, but if I'm not "too hard on myself," there are plenty of others who will be. If I stay as truthful as I can be, and avoid personal attacks, then I'm happy. I'd rather apologize when I make a mistake than not. There are plenty of people who think I'm a phony and worse. I've gone through a challenging shift of perspective here, from the naive assumption that everyone acts with good intentions to the rather obvious truth that some do and some don't. The danger is swinging too far the other way, and ascribing insanity or evil to others. Or predicting what others will do or how they will react. It feels a lot more sane not to try to impose any motivation, good or ill, to the things people do. And I'd rather admit I was wrong when I got overenthusiastic about what Millette would do for us.

 

[Senenmut]

Plus, he had an employee who was into this whole WTC dust thing. They worked together when they had spare time. When that person left the firm, his new employees never took an interest in working on this with him.

tell us more about that employee. what is his name. I looked at the report again and did not see another name. jones and crew listed many names that contributed to the study. what is his background? what is he doing now? sounds like he had access to the chips definitely. lets make sure this guy does not have any intel connections since there are companies that would create fake material to discredit the opposition.
like this:
"the plan called for actions to “sabotage or discredit the opposing organization” including a plan to submit fake documents and then call out the error."

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/the-real-war-on-reality/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=3

its not a stretch to think about faking a "material" if these guys were thinking about (or did) create fake docs.

 

[Spanx]

tell us more about that employee. what is his name. I looked at the report again and did not see another name. jones and crew listed many names that contributed to the study. what is his background? what is he doing now? sounds like he had access to the chips definitely. lets make sure this guy does not have any intel connections since there are companies that would create fake material to discredit the opposition.
like this:
"the plan called for actions to “sabotage or discredit the opposing organization” including a plan to submit fake documents and then call out the error."

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/the-real-war-on-reality/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=3

its not a stretch to think about faking a "material" if these guys were thinking about (or did) create fake docs.

I know it sounds silly but how much is the truth movement paying you to write comments like this?

The fact that I have asked you this question is evidence that I am correct so please prove me wrong

 

[Senenmut]

I know it sounds silly but how much is the truth movement paying you to write comments like this?

The fact that I have asked you this question is evidence that I am correct so please prove me wrong

if I remember right, I think this study was already planned out before chris got involved. correct me if im wrong there. so who got millette interested? was it this guy. chris is into "investigative journalism." so im just being alittle investigativish........

 

[Spanx]

if I remember right, I think this study was already planned out before chris got involved. correct me if im wrong there. so who got millette interested? was it this guy. chris is into "investigative journalism." so im just being alittle investigativish........

Why don't you just contact Millette ?

 

[Senenmut]

Why don't you just contact Millette ?

I already have emailed him about where he got the 400C for the muffle furnace test. the paper states he followed ASTM standards but the ASTM standard for the muffle furnace test is 450C. I asked where he got the 400C from and what was his labs protocol for ashing paint in the muffle furnace considering ASTM states 450C. of coarse I got no reply back for asking those extremely difficult questions...I might have even thrown in there was it some JREF members idea to do it at 400C.

 

[Spanx]

I already have emailed him about where he got the 400C for the muffle furnace test. the paper states he followed ASTM standards but the ASTM standard for the muffle furnace test is 450C. I asked where he got the 400C from and what was his labs protocol for ashing paint in the muffle furnace considering ASTM states 450C. of coarse I got no reply back for asking those extremely difficult questions...I might have even thrown in there was it some JREF members idea to do it at 400C.

And what's that got to do with the questions you want to ask him now ?

 

[Senenmut]

And what's that got to do with the questions you want to ask him now ?

what makes you think he will answer now?

 

[Spanx]

what makes you think he will answer now?

The difference is, if you ask him you will find out if he answers.

If you don't ask him you will assume he is not going to answer because he has something to hide.

If you do ask him and he doesn't reply you will assume he has something to hide.

So in truther logic, it's probably best not to ask and just assume he has something to hide.

 

[Senenmut]

The difference is, if you ask him you will find out if he answers.

If you don't ask him you will assume he is not going to answer because he has something to hide.

If you do ask him and he doesn't reply you will assume he has something to hide.

So in truther logic, it's probably best not to ask and just assume he has something to hide.

ill be glad to do chris's work for him!

 

[Spanx]

ill be glad to do chris's work for him!

I see, you think Chris is your play thing.

It's a shame you are to lazy to do do anything about it yourself

 

[Senenmut]

I see, you think Chris is your play thing.

It's a shame you are to lazy to do do anything about it yourself

chris knows about millette not following astm standards according to the muffle furnace too. being an investigative journalist, I hope he looked into it as well. I let him know about that. I don't treat him as a "play thing" whatever that means to you???

 

[Spanx]

chris knows about millette not following astm standards according to the muffle furnace too. being an investigative journalist, I hope he looked into it as well. I let him know about that. I don't treat him as a "play thing" whatever that means to you???

And if he found iron-microspheres like Ivan did with his fake paint on rust. What would that tell us ?

 

[Senenmut]

And if he found iron-microspheres like Ivan did with his fake paint on rust. What would that tell us ?

I saw the pics ivan posted but he did not do a xeds so how do ya know it was iron rich microspheres?

 

[Senenmut]

And if he found iron-microspheres like Ivan did with his fake paint on rust. What would that tell us ?

and I don't think it was "fake" paint. I thought he went around and scrapped it off stuff???

hopefully after one followed the scientific method and replicated the experiments that jones and crew did, if they behaved similar, then one could claim that they just might be the same material! at that point, hopefully the scientist split some chips in half and test one side in the dsc so the other half could be used for ftir or the ash furnace test to go beyond the jones and company paper.

 

[Spanx]

I saw the pics ivan posted but he did not do a xeds so how do ya know it was iron rich microspheres?

The chips were attracted by a magnet so there is a good chance they are iron microspheres. They also look very similar to the microspheres in the Bentham paper.

You are correct, Ivan did not do XED. What do you think they could be ?

 

[Spanx]

and I don't think it was "fake" paint. I thought he went around and scrapped it off stuff???

hopefully after one followed the scientific method and replicated the experiments that jones and crew did, if they behaved similar, then one could claim that they just might be the same material! at that point, hopefully the scientist split some chips in half and test one side in the dsc so the other half could be used for ftir or the ash furnace test to go beyond the jones and company paper.

Ivan's chips were not from ground zero, fake, imitation call it what you like.

Here is something to watch,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyiXiv-QsL0&feature=youtube

 

[Senenmut]

The chips were attracted by a magnet so there is a good chance they are iron microspheres. They also look very similar to the microspheres in the Bentham paper.

You are correct, Ivan did not do XED. What do you think they could be ?

BIG BALLS of soot perhaps? do the XEDS and we shall see.