New homophobic legislation in Uganda

NPR has done quite a bit of reporting on the situation of American fundamentalist sects going to Africa and heavily pushing their anti-gay agenda.
Uganda, and now Nigeria have both passed similar legislation and already there have been reports of village-level authorities dragging suspected homosexuals from their homes and turning them in to authorities.
Apparently the religious nut-bag types see America as "lost" and Africa providing fertile ground for their brand of Christianity.
And as well... We are seeing these African groups launching new churches here in America.

The World just last week did a segment on a fundamentalist-leaning sect from Nigeria that has set up shop in Texas, building a 10,000 seat church/auditorium (expandable!).
At present, they appear to be appealing primarily to the immigrant community.
 
That19Guy said:
My question to you all is what about incest? Its illegal in every state except New Jersey.
What if people of incest wanted to start lobbying for rights and acceptance? Would you all have a problem with it? Two consenting adults, a brother and a sister or an uncle and a niece, doing the dirty? Would you say that would have an effect on our society?
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Ignoring that incestuous relationships are nearly always fathers/brothers/uncles sexually abusing others, ignoring that the hordes of incestuous siblings demanding rights simply don't exist, ignoring that the "incestuous siblings" is a ludicrously ridiculous bogeyman which does not characterize any group of people petitioning for rights/recognition on the planet, here's how I would approach your hypothetical:

No, I don't care who consenting adults ****, how they do it, or how gross it is. I may not actively lobby for this non-existent group's non-existent demand for acceptance, but I would absolutely support their right to have their non-existent voices heard in court. And I absolutely believe laws restricting these types of relationships ought have a damn good argument.

If any class of people, regardless of how unpopular they are, believe they are entitled to legal recognition, they deserve their day in court.

Where is the line drawn?
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Consent.
 
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Dessi said:
Ignoring that incestuous relationships are nearly always fathers/brothers/uncles sexually abusing others, ignoring that the hordes of incestuous siblings demanding rights simply don't exist, ignoring that the "incestuous siblings" is a ludicrously ridiculous bogeyman which does not characterize any group of people petitioning for rights/recognition on the planet, here's how I would approach your hypothetical:

No, I don't care who consenting adults ****, how they do it, or how gross it is. I may not actively lobby for this non-existent group's non-existent demand for acceptance, but I would absolutely support their right to have their non-existent voices heard in court. And I absolutely believe laws restricting these types of relationships ought have a damn good argument.

If any class of people, regardless of how unpopular they are, believe they are entitled to legal recognition, they deserve their day in court.


Consent.
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To expand on that point, the only argument put forth by the homophobes in Uganda boils down to "it makes me feel oogy."
 
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This is a clip of a campaign clip from the National Task Force Against Homosexuality in Uganda. Viewer discretion is very much required. However, it is so outrageous it is acceptable to start to laugh when you hear what is being said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM
 
Dessi said:
Ignoring that incestuous relationships are nearly always fathers/brothers/uncles sexually abusing others, ignoring that the hordes of incestuous siblings demanding rights simply don't exist, ignoring that the "incestuous siblings" is a ludicrously ridiculous bogeyman which does not characterize any group of people petitioning for rights/recognition on the planet, here's how I would approach your hypothetical:

No, I don't care who consenting adults ****, how they do it, or how gross it is. I may not actively lobby for this non-existent group's non-existent demand for acceptance, but I would absolutely support their right to have their non-existent voices heard in court. And I absolutely believe laws restricting these types of relationships ought have a damn good argument.

If any class of people, regardless of how unpopular they are, believe they are entitled to legal recognition, they deserve their day in court.


Consent.
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^Well the people in the audience certainly seemed interested in knowing about gay sex practices.
 
Belz... said:
If you can't introduce nonsense in your own country, fund people in other places to do it, instead.
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Not fund them, send envoys to their countries to stir up fear and enlist converts, then encourage them to put their money in your church coffers.


And the same group of people have been active elsewhere including in Russia as evidenced by the use of the same language describing gays and the risk they supposedly pose.
 
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That19Guy said:
I once brought up a pedophile comparison and people said its different because being gay is an act between two consenting adults.
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Last thing i heard "being gay" was a description of someones sexuality and whom they are attracted to and, unless my experience is completely atypical, people usually don't give their consent to people being attracted towards them. Nor does adulthood come into it.
 
sylvan8798 said:
^Well the people in the audience certainly seemed interested in knowing about gay sex practices.
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Homophobes always seem inordinately obsessed with the minute details of exactly which sexual practices they don't like.

"Ugh! I don't want some [noun] [verbing] their [noun] in mine or anyone else's [noun]! Especially when it [excessive detail]..."

Etc.
 
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