Mojo
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No you don't. You were claiming that it said something other than what you heard in order to "improve" on the prediction.
The prophecies of Ama
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No you don't. You were claiming that it said something other than what you heard in order to "improve" on the prediction.
According to Wiki, you are correct. Here's the JCS line-up:
Neil Hubbard – electric guitar
Henry McCullough – electric guitar, acoustic guitar
Chris Mercer – tenor sax
Peter Robinson – piano, electric piano, Organ, positive organ
Bruce Rowland – drums, percussion
Allan Spenner – bass guitar
Other than the keyboardist, I think this is the entire Grease line-up.
halleyscomet
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At least the new guy occasionally makes testable predictions. Your con artist keeps failing. I still think you're a troll. A real fanatic would at least have an explanation, no matter how shoddy, to explain the failure of the WWIII prediction.
At least this guy offers an out for a failed prediction. He puts in some effort.
kung gaano kaluma ay sa iyo kapag ang bruha na inaako upang maging isang propeta unang lumalabag sa iyo?
Correa Neto
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More prophecies from Amaterasu! This time, 1975 through the mouths of Andersson, Ulvaeus and Anderson, she warns us about the arrival of the Whore of Babylon!
You are the dancing queen
Young and sweet
Only seventeen
Dancing queen
Feel the beat from the tambourine
You can dance
You can jive
Having the time of your life
See that girl
Watch that scene
Dig in the dancing queen
Dig in the dancing queen
I'll let you figure out who are her earthly avatars after saying each one corresponds to one of the heads of the beast she rides as described by the Book of Revelation.
Oh, don't forget to send money.
You are the dancing queen
Young and sweet
Only seventeen
Dancing queen
Feel the beat from the tambourine
You can dance
You can jive
Having the time of your life
See that girl
Watch that scene
Dig in the dancing queen
Dig in the dancing queen
I'll let you figure out who are her earthly avatars after saying each one corresponds to one of the heads of the beast she rides as described by the Book of Revelation.
Oh, don't forget to send money.
PeaceCrusader
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1975 Prophecy 15 – Blood and life will come to nothing and those who have been together for a long time will separate due to nothingness. Unity will become separated. Sin will prevail. (Mawawalan ng kabuluhan ang dugo at buhay at ang mga matagal nang nagsasama ay magkakaroon ng walang kabagay-bagay na paghihiwalay. Magkakalayo ang pagkakaisa-isa. Lalaganap ang walang kahulilip na pagkakasala.)
PeaceCrusader
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Yes, pakeha, I know that we have gone over the checking of Rosalinda Miraflor before. I am just pointing out that Ka Apaz mentioned her previous lives. I will ask her again if she remembers the second surname (not sirname).
In Spain, the mother’s surname is placed at the end which is the second surname. The “y” has usually been dropped off. So, for example, Mariano Rajoy Brey, his father’s surname is Rajoy and his mother, Brey. Is that correct, pakeha?
In the Philippines, the mother’s surname follows the given name and the last name is the father’s surname. The mother’s surname may be indicated by an initial called the middle initial or not mentioned at all. So my name is Aristeo Canlas Fernando or Aristeo C. Fernando or Aristeo Fernando.
In Italy, they are dropping off the middle name. And there is a controversy about this. Why? I think they just require in the passport the given name and the surname because women do not know who the father of the person is.
PeaceCrusader
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The views of the spirit of Ama of men and women: marriage is between a man and a woman, and no divorce, no live-in or de facto relationship. This is all in the meantime.
The very first Philip is during the first century AD. The Philippines is named after King Philip II in the 1500s. So it is a long gap before using Philip again. It may be like in the Roman Catholic Church where a name may take a long time before being used again, increased by one, like Benedict XV to Benedict XVI, or not used before like Francis, Valentine, Anacletus, Marcus, Fabian, etc.
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This is just factually incorrect. Philip I of Castile was Philip II's paternal grandfather.
He was born in 1478 and died in 1506.
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Another vague non-prophecy. Bad things will happen at some point, maybe. Awful.
pakeha
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Sirname is the same as surname, PC. Try googling it.
Yes, the Spanish second surname is the mother's surname.
"In Italy, they are dropping off the middle name. And there is a controversy about this. Why? I think they just require in the passport the given name and the surname because women do not know who the father of the person is"
Why would you think that, PC?
Still no reaction to the displacement of Maria Liwayway Alvaran as the mouthpiece of Ama?
Not so.
As I've posted earlier, Philip was a name used by the royal family of Macedon.
Philip I lived 640-602 BC, according to wiki.
Which Philip do you think was the husband of Renniliniyindi?
Blue Mountain
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Wolrd population 1975: 4.1 billion
World population 2014: 7.1 billion
That's a whole lotta nothing!
Astreja
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Interesting, PC: I asked for your views, not the views of "Ama."
I disagree with all of Ama's views on relationships, but particularly the "no divorce" rule. I think that divorce should be granted in all cases where either one of the partners does not wish to continue living with the other, so that the person initiating the divorce may marry someone else later.
Mojo
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Foolmewunz
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It should also be noted that the Wiki on this is wrong as they have the "country" (territory? area? lands?) being named for Philip II thirteen years before his reign began. If it was really named by Lopez de Villalobos, then it would've been for Philip I, as Philip II was only about 16 at the time.
I would think that Ama would have corrected the Wiki scholars by now. I suppose that with my poor knowledge of the Habsburgs it's possible that Charles (Carlos), who abdicated to Philip II in '56 had a clear line of succession and it was pre-named for the Prince, so I'll take a bow to any history buffs on that point. I think it far more logical that they would've named the country for Charles/Carlos as he was the reigning monarch, but in absence of that gesture, tend towards Philip I as he had titles and accolades coming out of the wazoo, and as I said, Philip II was a kid.
hurdygurdy
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So let's summarize:
- Divorce, live-in relationships and women wearing trousers: evil.
- Lying, spreading false prophecies and looking forward to a nuclear war: good for your soul.
Aristeo, with such set of values, you shouldn't be surprised by your lack of success as self-proclaimed Echo of the Holy Spìrit.
Foolmewunz
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It takes a special talent to interpret everything in terms of sexual promiscuity and sluttishness. It's an ugly place... there inside your head. And an ignorant place. Spanish culture hasn't dominated the world for about four centuries. Why would you expect an older culture to follow their naming conventions.
ETA: And there is no controversy about this. None. Where did you get that particular tidbit? From the liar's prophesies?
For your edification, the Italians never went by the father plus mother surname tradition (nor mother plus father). When they did use two "surnames" one was the immediate family and the other was the larger family group or tribe and is from the Roman practice and is known as a cognomen, IIRC. Old school Italian-Americans (from the era of the great wave of immigration to the USA) often went back to this, informally. Many people in my own family would use the immediate family (say DiGregorio) and then the dominant village or neighborhood name (say Scarpati), so while my name might be Gianni Marco DiGregorio*, family and neighbors might refer to me as Gianni DiGregorio Scarpati*.
*Those aren't my real names, but I do have a multiple Italianate name, including a traditional informal appendage of the larger and more dangerous family from Sicilly that we were associated with... but I don't give out my family names openly on these boards.
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Astreja
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Nothing holy about that spirit. "Ama" sounds like a right demon, 'e does. The only person I could imagine worshipping such a maleficent being is someone who would actually look forward to the world being destr ...
... Uh, PC, you don't happen to have any security clearances, do you?
Rincewind
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It takes a special talent to interpret everything in terms of sexual promiscuity and sluttishness. It's an ugly place... there inside your head. And an ignorant place. Spanish culture hasn't dominated the world for about four centuries. Why would you expect an older culture to follow their naming conventions.
ETA: And there is no controversy about this. None. Where did you get that particular tidbit? From the liar's prophesies?
For your edification, the Italians never went by the father plus mother surname tradition (nor mother plus father). When they did use two "surnames" one was the immediate family and the other was the larger family group or tribe and is from the Roman practice and is known as a cognomen, IIRC. Old school Italian-Americans (from the era of the great wave of immigration to the USA) often went back to this, informally. Many people in my own family would use the immediate family (say DiGregorio) and then the dominant village or neighborhood name (say Scarpati), so while my name might be Gianni Marco DiGregorio*, family and neighbors might refer to me as Gianni DiGregorio Scarpati*.
*Those aren't my real names, but I do have a multiple Italianate name, including a traditional informal appendage of the larger and more dangerous family from Sicilly that we were associated with... but I don't give out my family names openly on these boards.
So - Foolmewunz isn't your real name?!!?
pakeha
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Alas, yes.
"Reneliniyindi is the name given by the spirit of Ama to the person in whom the spirit from Heaven first resided here on Earth during the first century AD. That woman was an Egyptian princess married to the very first Philip. She died on her wedding day. So the Philippines is owned by Reneliniyindi by marriage to Philip I.
I believe that there must be a spirit from God for a person to exist (Genesis 2:7). The person dies. It is up to God whether the spirit is going to be reincarnated or not. In the case of Reneliniyindi, the spirit was reincarnated to another human being, and so on and so forth. Now, this spirit is in the physical body of Maria Liwayway Alvaran or Ka Apaz which is being used by Ama to communicate to people.
According to Ka Apaz, the previous body in which the spirit resided prior to her was in Rosalina or Rosalinda Miraflor of Spain. That is why I am asking pakeha to check this out since he is from Spain. She was 18 when she died in about 1923 or 1924. Prior to the woman in Spain was Matzuyama(?) of Japan in about the late 1800s. So this can be checked for its genuineness."
That's an interesting point, Fooledmewunz.
Off to learn more.
ETA
As I found at the http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Ruy_López_de_Villalobos, the explorer first named the islands Las Islas del Poniente
" In April 1544, he [López de Villalobos ] left for Amboyna in the Moluccas. He and his crew members then made their way to the islands of Samar and Leyte, where he named them Las Islas Felipinas (The Philippine Islands) in honour of Philip II."
Going back to wiki, I found that yes, Philip II was effectively the master of Spain's empire from the age of 16.
"The king-emperor's interactions with his son during his stay in Spain convinced him of Philip's precocity in statesmanship, and so he determined to leave in his hands the regency of Spain in 1543. Philip, who had previously been made the Duke of Milan in 1540, began governing the most extensive empire in the world at the young age of sixteen."
Philip II's letters to his daughters make fascinating reading, BTW.
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Mojo
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