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abaddon said:
I will challenge you on this. You have failed to present any evidence here, you have failed to present any evidence that your supportive groups exist, you have failed to present any evidence that there is any investigator, you have failed to present any evidence that there is any newspaper, you have failed to present anything.

Why should anyone give any credence to your claims?
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These aren't claims, just updates. Make of them what you will.
 
flaccon said:
It is a voice, it comes from a PC in Notts. That same voice can be identified on many other PC's now. It is happening, but I wish a lot of it wasn't.
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How is it that you cannot recognise that unevidenced claims are as useful as a raincoat in a nuclear reactor core? If you continue with this bizarre lack of anything which might support your claims, how can you be in any way surprised at rejection?

If I claimed that rainbows are the direct result of unicorn farts, would you believe me? If I further claimed that a team of scientists were investigating, would you simply believe me? If I further claimed that a reporter was following the story with a view to publishing an article, would you believe me? If I further claimed that these people could not be revealed for spurious reasons, would you believe me?

Bluntly, I wouldn't believe me.
 
flaccon said:
Whilst I appreciate the time the gent took to come here
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Appreciation expressed by mendacity.

I cannot appreciate his evaluation, it contained nothing I recognised,
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Because you seek only agreement.

and even when I prompted him to mention the "voices" he'd heard, he confessed he didn't mention the voices because ..
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A lie. Alderbank never heard any voices.

Why do you have to fib?
 
flaccon said:
I've no idea regarding any performance. I've demonstrated their ability to speak clear. Played them a few date-stamped messages pre the events. Family members were interviewed by the press. If actual recognisable voices are not enough, and the art work containing images of family members is not enough, and their latest diamond breaking trick isn't enough, I'd like to understand why all this ability just isn't enough. I'd also like to know what is enough?
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Why don't you apply the same scientific standards of evidence used in all reputable research and experimentation?

All you have are claims and no matter how many claims you have they don't, can't, and will not ever equal evidence. Sorry.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Flaccon, have you thought about having an exorcism done?

Here's a guy who does exorcisms via Skype.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...vangelist-exorcised-my-demons-over-skype.html
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I don't think I need an exorcism, what possess me is actually protecting me from what attacks us. It's the world that needs exorcising. These "things" are getting away with murder. My urgency (the press) was because their latest message spoke volumes. Without scare-mongering, it was "the devil spawns the internet" Call me crazy but we really are witnessing these positive spirits transferring their "magic?" through a signal, it's fair to believe that the devil can do the same through a signal. I know, yes you believe I'm crazy and I hope I am, but its not looking too promising.
 
flaccon said:
Whilst I appreciate the time the gent took to come here, I cannot appreciate his evaluation, it contained nothing I recognised, and even when I prompted him to mention the "voices" he'd heard, he confessed he didn't mention the voices because he couldn't see what was paranormal about "voices" One of those voices is my late Father. One voice didn't count as a voice because it was chipmonk-like, it was still clear. One voice that was a normal voice, also wasn't a voice because if he came back here and said these were indeed voices, he'd be ridiculed too. All that gets overlooked. Jfisher describing his recording as "constant" noise all the way through *a whirring fan and rain" I listened to it and yes, he'd described it accurate. When I played it through this PC there were differences, interference, complete silences even. As far as I know, the original altered in the same way. Whatever I have tried to provide, is hand waved, overlooked, medically evaluated or scoffed at.
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This description does not remotely resemble the reality of either Alderbank's report on his visit or subsequent developments.

Alderbank said he couldn't see what was paranormal about thinking you can hear voices in random noise because there's nothing paranormal about thinking you can hear voices in random noise, as has been explained to you over and over and over again. He heard nothing that required a paranormal explanation. A careful experiment proved that a recording you insisted had changed had not changed. None of the youtube videos you linked to contained anything out of the ordinary. That is the reality, no matter how much you believe otherwise.
 
flaccon said:
I know, yes you believe I'm crazy and I hope I am, but its not looking too promising.
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And this whole thread turns maudlin.

I had forgotten how sad it made me; curse my short memory. I'd exhort Tracy to seek better mental health advice, but... etc.

*Sigh*
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flaccon said:
You may think there is nothing unusual that my Father's voice is coming through this PC, and a PC in Notts (et' al) Robin told me he'd uploaded one where a voice was clearly heard *You think your breath is complicated" That's my Father, no imagination, no set up, that's for real.
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Did your father often say exceptionally random things that make no sense?
What is that sentence supposed to mean?

flaccon said:
BThe initial interview with this team. and the spirits performed immediately. I wasn't in the room so missed it.
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What did the spirits do when you weren't in the room?

flaccon said:
I've also got a random youtube clip that calls one the guys names out in a full sentence regarding the competition.
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Care to share this Youtube clip so that the rest of us can review it?
Please don't tell us in advance what this guy's name is and we'll see if we can work it out.
 
flaccon said:
Biscuit I doubt this investigation requires this sort of testing. They are aware that this is a signal more than a haunting of these spirits. I doubt equipment is necessary, a few crosses and a bible yes. The initial interview with this team. and the spirits performed immediately. I wasn't in the room so missed it. Sunday with ASKE should be on these lines though. Of course I'll be picking out the easy ones to hear, and through this PC (without transferences) it's easier still. I've also got a random youtube clip that calls one the guys names out in a full sentence regarding the competition.
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Just noticed this. Sunday? ASKE? Now what are you talking about?
 
SezMe said:
I have tried to follow this thread but don't remember any previous mention of breaking diamonds. Tell us more about this newly demonstrated capability.
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They've broken near every piece of jewellery I own. My diamonds are also internally smashed up. They were telling me that they were going to break a mountain. To prove this ability, they told me to check my diamonds. They want to break a diamond at the ASKE challenge competition. Bit far fetched isn'it. However far fetched, I'm only going to say what I know to be true, and of course evident until scientifically proven otherwise.
 
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