RelentlessPunishment
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Thanks Humes Fork, and others, for holding a welcome spotlight up to islam lately. The absurdity of assuming you make uninfored and arbitary assumptions about all muslims, which is every bit as arbitrarily assupumptious about you as anything you're being accused of,hasn't gone unnoticed by me, and, I'm sure, other,along with the opportunity costs in terms of the amount of time and energy spent in unwinable and distracting arguments often barely even tangenital to the issues raised. I think that in short-form discussion, such as an internet message board, it's hard not to speak generically, and there's generally little loss of meaning if it's done carefully. More expository writing is suited to longer-form writing, such as books, where writers can delineate often suble and complex distinctions with precision, or academic writing, where you write for a particular readership. As far as I can tell, it also seems a norm in theological writing to discuss religions generically, even in speaking of a specific part of them, although I might be wrong about that.
Anyway, enough ranting, I thought the islamoskeptics might find thisinteresting. The ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), which is a government broadcaster a lot like the BBC, recently published this op-ed:
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2014/02/06/3939465.htm
Personally I find it a bit scary, and hard to reconcile with the idea that there's nothing to worried about in rise of islam in the west, but I'm glad they can say it. It's not the content of the article itself that concerns me here. What's more disturbing and notable is that it's written by the spokesman for this group:
http://www.hizb-australia.org/hizb-ut-tahrir/itemlist/category/11-about-us
I just can't see a good reason why the ABC would run something by Hitz-Ut-Tahrir,and legitimate them, given that they're Islamic right wing extremists. It's not as though they'd allow an op-ed by white supremacists, and they never represent the views of counter-jihadists (a term I use confidently, given how overtly jihadist Hitz-Ut-Tahrir are). And I don't think they're being ironic, because ABC Religion has zero sense of irony (read some of their theological waffle if you want to see what I mean). All I can think of is that they're culturally and conceptually blind when it comes to the islammic right wing in the exact way that so concerns the likes of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Humes Fork, and me, and many others.
Anyway, enough ranting, I thought the islamoskeptics might find thisinteresting. The ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), which is a government broadcaster a lot like the BBC, recently published this op-ed:
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2014/02/06/3939465.htm
Personally I find it a bit scary, and hard to reconcile with the idea that there's nothing to worried about in rise of islam in the west, but I'm glad they can say it. It's not the content of the article itself that concerns me here. What's more disturbing and notable is that it's written by the spokesman for this group:
http://www.hizb-australia.org/hizb-ut-tahrir/itemlist/category/11-about-us
I just can't see a good reason why the ABC would run something by Hitz-Ut-Tahrir,and legitimate them, given that they're Islamic right wing extremists. It's not as though they'd allow an op-ed by white supremacists, and they never represent the views of counter-jihadists (a term I use confidently, given how overtly jihadist Hitz-Ut-Tahrir are). And I don't think they're being ironic, because ABC Religion has zero sense of irony (read some of their theological waffle if you want to see what I mean). All I can think of is that they're culturally and conceptually blind when it comes to the islammic right wing in the exact way that so concerns the likes of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Humes Fork, and me, and many others.
