Ed Speaking in tongues

Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The language of the Angels is amazing and can mean many different things at once. God gives each person the interpretation that is right and relevant to them.
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Basically this "language" is temporary insanity brought on by self hypnosis and trances. Some analysts who study this nonsense say its mostly garbled words in the persons original language. Trying to figure out what the unfortunant person is trying to say leads most observers of the phenomena to say this. "Complete gibberish".
 
This reminds me of one of the most memorable scenes (to me) from "The Exorcist". The investigating priest concluded that, despite all the telekinesis and projectile vomiting and levitation, this was NOT a legitimate possession because the girl wasn't speaking in tongues...she was speaking syntactically correct English, backwards.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The language of the Angels is amazing and can mean many different things at once. God gives each person the interpretation that is right and relevant to them.
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Ah, I see. So the person speaking in tongues can only be interpreted by someone gifted enough to understand them. And the meaning behind what is being said is completely subjective to the person doing the interpretation, to the point that two different interpreters can come up with completely different interpretations. Amazing more people don't believe in this!

:rolleyes:
 
foophil said:
Ah, I see. So the person speaking in tongues can only be interpreted by someone gifted enough to understand them. And the meaning behind what is being said is completely subjective to the person doing the interpretation, to the point that two different interpreters can come up with completely different interpretations. Amazing more people don't believe in this!

:rolleyes:
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What a sophisticated language...two different meanings in one stream of words!

;)
 
The first time I heard the pastor at a Pentecostal church speak in tongues I immediately felt embarassed. It just seemed so foolish and ridiculous to see someone past the age of 2 speaking what sounded like gibberish--he used shama and lama a lot, but not ding dong, I just about laughed out loud.
 
sinclairmcevoy said:
The first time I heard the pastor at a Pentecostal church speak in tongues I immediately felt embarassed. It just seemed so foolish and ridiculous to see someone past the age of 2 speaking what sounded like gibberish--he used shama and lama a lot, but not ding dong, I just about laughed out loud.
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"Durka durka."
 
Warning: derail.

What is it about words with 'u' in them that make people put extras 'u's like the misspelling on tongue in the title of this thread?

Nuptials (Nuptuals) and nuclear (Nucular) are the examples that come to mind.

IXP
 
IXP said:
Warning: derail.

What is it about words with 'u' in them that make people put extras 'u's like the misspelling on tongue in the title of this thread?

Nuptials (Nuptuals) and nuclear (Nucular) are the examples that come to mind.

IXP
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Mysterious language of angels is mysterious. Get a new decoder ring.

(Probably because it seems like you never know when they will pop up. Colour. Flavour. Not sure? Add a u, what's the worst that could happen, you're accused of being too Brittish?)
 
foophil said:
Ah, I see. So the person speaking in tongues can only be interpreted by someone gifted enough to understand them. And the meaning behind what is being said is completely subjective to the person doing the interpretation, to the point that two different interpreters can come up with completely different interpretations. Amazing more people don't believe in this!

:rolleyes:
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They're like the sounds people make mid-coitus. A lot of them are just faking it.
 
Iamme said:
Is their a similarity between speaking in tongues, and faith healing, that both become contagious en masse?
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Yes, absolutely. I am convinced that there is an element of mass hypnosis in these congregations.

Have you ever seen someone go up to a faith healer/preacher and the preacher says "you are HEALED In the name of jaysus" and the person just falls over? It's called "being slain in the spirit" and it's happened to me. My knees just buckled and I couldn't stand up. You know why? Because I knew that was what was supposed to happen. I knew it was going to happen when I went up there, I'd seen it happen to other people, a whole room full of people were expecting it to happen, so it happened. I had no conscious control.

Same thing.
 
A co-worker was talking about her early church experiences when she was a toddler. She normally played on the floor in the church while the adults were carrying on. Her grandfather would typically speak in tongues and after a while she started repeating what she heard. The adults took this to mean that their little angel was speaking in tongues and carried her around praising god for making her see the light.

Ranb
 
arthwollipot said:
Yes, absolutely. I am convinced that there is an element of mass hypnosis in these congregations.

Have you ever seen someone go up to a faith healer/preacher and the preacher says "you are HEALED In the name of jaysus" and the person just falls over? It's called "being slain in the spirit" and it's happened to me. My knees just buckled and I couldn't stand up. You know why? Because I knew that was what was supposed to happen. I knew it was going to happen when I went up there, I'd seen it happen to other people, a whole room full of people were expecting it to happen, so it happened. I had no conscious control.

Same thing.
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It's even more obvious the way Benny Hinn usually does it, just sweeping his arms across and shouting "Fire!" or something. Whole swathes of the audience will just fall over as if he'd had a water cannon.

But I'd like to raise a small quibble. There are other mechanisms at work apart from expectation, because someone must have been the first (be it at Azusa Street or anywhere else), and I can testify to some experiences I definitely wasn't expecting. At the very least, there's a more general question of atmosphere in addition to specific personal expectation.

That's why revivals excite people so much, and why they're so fevered before petering out almost without warning. Once a revival is identified, the combination of expectation and the atmosphere created by the inevitable revival meetings is the perfect breeding ground for wacky experiences, and that will carry on until the bubble bursts and it suddenly seems like something's changed, when it's all in the mind.

The Toronto Blessing is an interesting case study in this context, going back a couple of decades - lots of people visited the Toronto Vineyard so that they could bring something back with them, so it became a global phenomenon, and most churches moving in those circles had their own sort of mini-revival. Some would claim that it had lasting effects, but AFAICS, they only ever amount to an increased fashion for falling over when you're prayed for.
 
I'd never heard of the Toronto BlessingWP before.
It sounds as though it's related to what is called Spontaneous Movement in some Qi Gong schools.

" Usually the internal movement develops over the body, starting with vibrations, later on followed by jumping, kneeling, prostrating, or some other beautiful movements as dancing or martial postures, and finally the person wants to sit or lie quietly. In general in young people the movement is quite strong, whereas in older people it is rather slow and gentle.

Continual quieting of the mind in this position will release emotional information. People may start to cry, scream, sigh, and later on laugh and sing. Belching and yawning, sweating and winding often accompany the emotional release."
http://www.buqi.net/en/articles/spontaneous_movement.htm
 
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