How can the world forgive Germany?

erwinl said:
What do you like to know?
The start? I can recommend 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'
Or do you want to know more about the aftermath. The reshaping of Germany after WWII? In that case I have no idea.
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How about those dealing with ordinary Germans, their motivations under the Nazis, level of awareness and the choices they faced?
 
When will the world wake up and remember the mistakes WE'VE made, and use that knowledge to change the future to one where "blame is not the name of the game", but rather action, based on the unquestionable worth of each individual human being.

I don't think long fosterered resentment is healthy for anyone.
 
Sideroxylon said:
How about those dealing with ordinary Germans, their motivations under the Nazis, level of awareness and the choices they faced?
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That's a good one.
I don't know any of them. Would be very interesting indeed to read something like that.
 
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I don't think allowing a country to start two major wars in the same century is healthy for anyone
 
Let me explain something......

I only joined this discussion for interesting, entertainment purposes.

I have never had to go to war myself. I am 51 years old and by luck alone, I registered, but was never called.

I hope my children never have to experience war.

This topic, while important on a global level, just does not take up much of my daily, family, business day. I've other things I'd rather concentrate on than blaming some country I know little about, concerning past atrocities.

Humans can be horrifyingly, wickedly, atrocious to each other. The only reason war still exists is because of greed and stupidity.

Human stupidity, invented by humans, sustained by humans, kept by humans.

If we blow our selves out of existence by letting out anger/greed/ego/stupidity get the best of us, we deserve our fate.

Let's choose peace,tolerance, intelligence and understanding instead.
 
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Monketey Ghost said:
I don't think allowing a country to start two major wars in the same century is healthy for anyone
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Germany certainly wasn't alone in starting WWI.

For certain their stupid, one option only, mobilization plan didn't help.
Russia though had a similar stupid plan. The only option for them was a total mobilization, which had as SOP a direct attack on Germany.
That didn't help to defuse things either.
 
erwinl said:
What do you like to know?
The start? I can recommend 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'Or do you want to know more about the aftermath. The reshaping of Germany after WWII? In that case I have no idea.
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Agreed. I've read it over and over.
 
Monketey Ghost said:
In another thread I'd mentioned watching the series The World at War.

It's appalling what the Nazis did, in every country they occupied. It's horrible that so many German citizens ignored it, or were happy to benefit from it.

I understand that an entire generation had been conditioned by Nazi propaganda to think Jewish people inferior, and the German people naturally better.

But the systematic atrocities. The infrastructure and bureaucracy built to carry out those atrocities.

Combined with the war just two decades gone by... how can the world ever forgive the German people??
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Most of the Nazis are dead. How could a German or Japanese person be blamed for what happened before they were born?
 
Let the country that has never started, nor participated in a war, run the business of keeping life going, on Earth.
 
Letting Germany rearm was a huge mistake, and as I said, some of these guys are still alive, as are the families of victims.

It's amazing to me, at least, that the world suffered so much and yet not so long afterwards, Germany is reunited and the same anti Semitic feelings are rising.
 
How will we ever forgive the Mongols? Or the Russians, Japanese, Spaniards, English, Portuguese, Belgium, Dutch, Americans and every single nation who committed genocide in one way or another?

We just do. What happened in Germany could have happened in any other country, given the right conditions. And the conditions were ripe before WW2.

Now the interesting question is, when will Germans forgive themselves? Because make no mistake, the feeling of guilt is very present in Germany today, much more than warranted in my opinion.
 
Isn't anti-semitism prejudice, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage.

What if we applied prejudice, hatred of, or discrimination against Germans for reasons connected to their German heritage?
 
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