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Moderated What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

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spot on.

And the "plane shaped hole" was caused because the building was hit by a "plane shaped object" - and there is nothing more plane shaped than a plane.

Until yankee shows that it was not a plane all this red herring discussion about the fourth bolt on the left of the wrong-way leaning bit of whatever other nonsense.....
....is merely troll feeding.

He has no claim worthy of a response so why respond?

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Also, somehow I think that demanding that we "disprove" invented "evidence" and then following up with sarcasm.... rounds out back to what I've QFT'd.... somehow...:duck:
 
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It would be refreshing if Yankee451 would get on-topic and actually discuss what caused the plane shaped hole instead of telling us that events a decade later in Libya and Syria which don't appear to have anything to do with 9/11 are some kind of reason to reject the evidence of eyewitnesses, independent video recordings, radar, recovered plane parts and victim remains and effects.
 
It would be refreshing if Yankee451 would get on-topic and actually discuss what caused the plane shaped hole instead of telling us that events a decade later in Libya and Syria which don't appear to have anything to do with 9/11 are some kind of reason to reject the evidence of eyewitnesses, independent video recordings, radar, recovered plane parts and victim remains and effects.

His original claim, if I have the right character, was a series of precision-timed missile strikes by a missile that was still in experimental development as of 2001. However, after his abject failure to produce any evidence of missile usage or that the missile was even capable of the required pinpoint precision, I don't know what the answer to your question will be, if he answers it at all.
 
I don't think people believe that airplanes hit the buildings because they saw it on TV. I think people believe that airplanes hit the buildings because airplanes hit the buildings. Try opening a history book.
Besides this. I have friends that were there and saw them with their own eyes. One even took a video.

The "saw it on TeeVee" thing is just his way to hand wave more evidence.
 
Haven't ignored them, just starting at the beginning. I gather you like to read the last chapter before you get to the end of a book?

You started somewhere towards the end.

Back to the OP:

What caused the plane shaped hole?

(it doesn't say what you think didn't).
 
The 2014 Golden Globe Awards were presented at the Beverly Hilton Hotel this past Sunday. Due to the time limitations of the televised show, the remaining Awards were presented the previous night.

The winners of the 2014 Golden Globe Awards for the following categories are:

The La La La Can’t Hear You Award:
For the unsupported claim that all the corroborated evidence a passenger jet hit the Towers is fake - the Al Qaeda involvement, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed along with Ramzi bin al-Shibh planning, bin Laden admissions, martyrdom videos, expense receipts, hijackers flying lessons, passenger jet simulations and licenses, hijacker’s whereabouts, Arabic flight manuals found in the hijacker car and hotel room, airport gate checks photos, Atta’s luggage flight videos and last will, ATC recordings of the hijacker’s cockpit voices, one pilot garbled screaming Mayday! Mayday!, Betty Ong’s, flight crew and passenger phone calls, RADAR tracking from takeoff to impact, thousands of live witnesses including those survivors in the Towers while the jets flew right at them, engines, landing gears, AA safety vests, airplane seats, airplane parts scattered in the streets after the impacts, the airplane tire that crushed one woman’s legs , another crushing a car, missing passengers and airplanes, over 40 videos of the plane flight and impact hitting WTC2, the DNA profiling of the passengers and their identification items.

The Where’s the Math! Show Me the Math! - Ouch! I Shot Myself In the Foot Award:
For posting an MIT paper as evidence that the 767’s wings could not have penetrated the building columns, that shows that the 767’s wings penetrated the building columns with the expenditure of only 7.83% of the wings’ KE.

The I Debunk Myself Award:
For the claim that the WTC1 columns damage is bent in only one direction proving it was Woolworth rooftop missiles all hitting WTC1 from left to right in the picture, while the damaged aluminum column cladding shows that 11 were bent one way and 13 were bent the opposite way, including some that show adjacent columns cladding bent in opposite directions.

The I Left My Brain in San Francisco Award:
For the claim that a 2,000 lb. missile hitting the columns at an oblique angle, including one of the tiny wings on the missile, caused the wing gash seen in WTC1, but that a 65,000 lb wing hitting head on could not.

The Blaming the Victim Autoimmune Disorder Award:
For the claim that the US attacked Iraq and Afghanistan in order to steal their oil and natural resources although it has cost the US nearly 5 trillion dollars and no oil or natural resources were stolen by the US.
Instead bin Laden attacked the US on 9/11 in order to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity, to fight secularism and humanism, create one religious totalitarian Sunni Caliphate from the Muslim states, and thereafter the world; to provoke the US to attack and unite Muslim states in a jihad against the West, bankrupt the United States, and wage a war of attrition which they plan to win because they believe Americans are quitters.
 
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Also, somehow I think that demanding that we "disprove" invented "evidence" and then following up with sarcasm.... rounds out back to what I've QFT'd.... somehow...:duck:

Translation:

We refuse to examine the plane-shaped hole and wish he would go away so we can go back to talking about planes.
 


The La La La Can’t Hear You Award:

For the unsupported claim that passenger jets hit the Tower resulting in the deaths of thousands and followed by the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people as retribution.


The Where’s the Math! Show Me the Math! - Ouch! I Shot Myself In the Foot Award:

For demanding the "math" of others to prove their hypotheses when they can't provide any math to support their own, and for not batting an eye over killing tens of thousands of innocent people without a shred of proof beyond the TeeVee.


The I Debunk Myself Award:

For claiming a southbound, mostly hollow aluminum jet caused east-west damage in 1/2 inch thick steel columns and relying on the TeeVee as proof.


The I Left My Brain in San Francisco Award:

For claiming an aluminum wing with a leading edge as sharp as a basketball can do what several dense-metal penetrating warheads can do as long as it's filled with fuel. Second prize goes to the military for wasting billions on missiles that can easily be replaced by the much more efficient, mostly hollow aluminum wings filled with kerosene.


The Blaming the Victim Autoimmune Disorder Award:

For believing that empty floors struck by non-existent planes resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people who weren't there, retribution for which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent victims who had it coming anyway.
 
Plane creating plane shaped hole.
 

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For the unsupported claim that passenger jets hit the Tower resulting in the deaths of thousands and followed by the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people as retribution.

Unsupported? Supported by eyewitnesses, by dozens of independent video recordings, by radar tracking, by recovered plane parts and victims effects.

The second crash must be a candidate for the most widely eyewitnessed plane crash in history.

Now what have you got?
 
Unsupported? Supported by eyewitnesses, by dozens of independent video recordings, by radar tracking, by recovered plane parts and victims effects.

The second crash must be a candidate for the most widely eyewitnessed plane crash in history.

Now what have you got?

{Jedi hand wave}
Those things don't exist
{/Jedi hand wave}
 
Besides this. I have friends that were there and saw them with their own eyes. One even took a video.

The "saw it on TeeVee" thing is just his way to hand wave more evidence.

WELL nowwww. That`s just the proof i have been waiting for!! Case closed!
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Er...WAIT!...you might be with the govt and just telling us this!
Sheesh, is it hard to prove anything. It really is.
 
Why wouldn't we be talking about planes? You've done nothing to call into question planes striking the buildings.
You only feel this way because your mind is not open enough to throw away all the evidence and science and just look at the hole. Use gut instinct. :rolleyes:



:boxedin:
 
Besides this. I have friends that were there and saw them with their own eyes. One even took a video.

The "saw it on TeeVee" thing is just his way to hand wave more evidence.

He/She/It conveniently forgets that there were tens of thousands of people in and around the site who didn't need TeeVees. All they had to do was look up.
 
He/She/It conveniently forgets that there were tens of thousands of people in and around the site who didn't need TeeVees. All they had to do was look up.
Not to mention that these people would cry foul when they did see the "TeeVee" and it was not what they saw.

Is it any wonder why even the fringe of the fringe dismiss "no-planers"?
 

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