Continuation Part Seven: Discussion of the Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito case

[RWVBWL]

Nara's daughter

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They are but what do you mean match the scream. Rudy has it at 9:15-30.

Nara and Monacchia didn't have times and as you can see Briars has just moved the murder to 10:15. Neither ear witness could narrow the time down because neither one looked at a watch and neither one called the police.

Nara Capezzali had her daughter, whom IIRC, is an adult,
living with her in her apartment at the time of Meredith Kercher's death.

For some reason, her daughter did not hear this horrible scream which really shook up Nara Capezzali. Why not?

I find it really strange after reading the Massei Report that Nara did not wake up her daughter to discuss this horrible scream...

Massei Report - Nara Capezzali/Scream:
https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1k6UO236V18c-xncBjgG0zYjm1Nh5oEnE7yNiQqFv454&hl=en&pli=1

 

[Strozzi]

Originally Posted by Grinder
?[/QUOTE]And Bill, this is a time I refer to Massei and point out that he changed the departing time to conform with disco buses that didn't exist. I don't care if he called her a psychopath or a normal child, but I do care when he distorted the evidence to convict.?[/QUOTE]

Heavens.... you're not saying that Massei found it as factual (wrongful, but he found it as factual nonetheless) that the Disco Buses ran on the night on Nov 1, are you?

I would normally call what Massei did in changing the time statement evidence tampering. Certainly if someone in the courthouse such as a records clerk deliberately changed the record of what the witness actually testified to in court it would be evidence tampering.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

I don't have to. I have a picture I took from my backyard. It's a little fuzzy though.

Well, so are the luminol footprints that supposedly implicate Amanda and Raffaele. So are the DNA results and the witness testimony and everything else. We have an extraordinary claim - these two amiable college kids with no criminal record, nestled into a quiet evening in the first week of a new love affair, supposedly teamed up with a petty criminal to commit murder for no reason. But all the evidence is out of focus and lacks corroboration.

Meanwhile we have unmistakable evidence pointing to the third guy, showing not just that he is guilty, but what he did when he was at the crime scene. Here's what Massei wrote in his opus:

By their diversity and by the agreement of the results of all the tests performed on them, these elements and traces, as has been said, do not leave any doubt about the presence of Rudy Guede in the house and in Meredith's room on the night of the homicide. Said elements indicate the paths he followed within the house: the living room area which he crossed to reach the larger bathroom, the living room area and the corridor which he crossed to go to Meredith's room, the same areas, corridor and living room area, which he crossed after killing Meredith to reach the main door, without deviating from this direction to go anywhere else, given that the bloody shoeprints trace a line from Meredith's room directly to the exit.

This is not a genuine mystery. Guede did it, but before the cops realized he did it, they accused three innocent people on a hunch. They have been blowing smoke ever since, and they have attracted a cult following because it makes for an interesting story. What you see on PMF/TJMK is folklore, like the hairy biped in whom some people fervently believe, and whose existence cannot be disproved, but who eludes capture. People here have experience with that phenomenon, so they recognize it, and once they do, they don't agonize about whether they are right. It is obvious, and they roll up their sleeves to debunk it.

 

[AmyStrange]

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self delete... dupe

 

[moodstream]

If this was indeed one of the cruxes of this case, and since Cassation sent the case back because the TOD didn't match the scream, one would think, if you are all correct in your opinions about gastric emptying and TOD, the defence lawyers would be all over this. They are not, for whatever reason. And so, I continue reading . . .


I did read the link that contained many studies done by Camilleri on normal physiology. However, they are not studies in post-mortem gastric emptying in women who have been traumatically brutalized.

On the other hand, if the cassaton is right, and studies on normal physiology are also right, then Ms Kercher would have to have been traumatically brutalized from the time normal gastric emptying would have occurred, until the time of death. And if Ms Kercher was not traumatically brutalized for this length of time, then Knox/Sollecito are innocent of the crime.

I think I hear you saying this. Are you?

Also, you say since Cassation sent the case back because the TOD didn't match the scream, are you relying on Nara Capezzali as a foundational element in the case? It has to be that Nara Capezzali heard a scream coming from the cottage at about 11pm or the case against K/S falls apart?

From my perspective, the prosecution arguments are a jello like compound of innuendo held together by wishful thinking. As each argument is disproven or shown to be extraordinarily unlikely, it just sinks back into the mold to resurface later, slightly modified so that again it must be disproven.

 

[Wildhorses]

It is possible for a person to have read the translated primary court documents and have come to an opinion of guilt, without hating, without degrading, without being irrational, and without having a pony in this race. It is also possible for a person to be devoid of arrogance, and to admit that he or she is not completely sure of this stance. Therefore, I rely on my meme and not on the opinions of strangers on a forum. If they are truly innocent, I hope the wisdom of the court in Florence judges it to be so. If they are truly guilty, then I hope that this is the judgement with punishment to follow.

The reason I posted on JREF is because my curiosity got the best of me. I wanted to know whether there were people who believed in Amanda's and Raffaele's innocence dispassionately, but who were also open to the possibility of their guilt. It appears that the answer would be, no. (But thanks Planigale – your response was at least dispassionate and genuine).

Alright, I’ll take your word for it that a reasonable, non-biased person can read the court documents and conclude AK/RS are guilty.

I’m on the fringe of people interested in the case. I don’t follow the case on a daily basis. I’m not a regular on any forum. For the most part, I ignore the fighting amongst factions. I came to the case with my own questions, read my share of source documents, and reached my own conclusions.

Based on the evidence I know, I think AK/RS are innocent. If the evidence I know changed, I’d change my mind accordingly. For example, if the putative semen stain were found to be Sollecito’s, you bet I’d change my mind. But I’d also start looking for what I missed because I have invested significant time (years!) reviewing the evidence and see no reasonable way for AK/RS to have hooked up with Rudy, gone into murderous rages/deliriums, killed Meredith, staged a break-in, cleaned up a mountain of incriminating evidence, etc.

And though I said I’d take your word that a reasonable, non-biased person can read the court documents and conclude AK/RS are guilty, I will tell you my hunch about that person. I’d be willing to bet he misunderstood some of the evidence presented in the court documents. Not out of bias, not out of lack of diligence… but because the case for guilt seems to rely on an accumulation of details and, due to the frenzy that initially surrounded this case, it’s extremely easy to get the details wrong.

With more time and thought, I could provide many examples of misunderstood (or erroneous) details but for starters take your post about “the large differences in translation regarding the Guede-Beneditti Skype conversation by AMK and the one on the Meredith wiki.” As you now know, that wasn’t AK deliberately fudging the translation; rather, the discrepancy was due to the fact that she was translating a different conversation. Small detail: big difference in how one perceives Knox.

Assuming you’re the reasonable, non-biased person who read the court transcripts and concluded AK/RS are guilty, would you mind answering a few questions? What evidence do you find most incriminating? Which witness testimonies did you find most compelling?

Do you think the knife from Sollecito’s kitchen was the murder weapon? If so, why do you think AK/RS brought it to the cottage?

Do you agree the collection of forensic data was sloppy? If so, doesn’t that fact, alone, introduce reasonable doubt?

How and why do you think AK/RS hooked up with Guede that night?

I, personally, see no evidence for a staged break-in and clean-up, but okay… let’s say I got that wrong. Would you mind telling me what evidence convinces you of staging and clean-up beyond reasonable doubt?

Dozens more questions come to mind. Honestly, I’m not trying to cross-examine you. In many ways, I share your distaste for the fanaticism that’s grown out of this case. I truly would like to hear the point of view of a non-hating, non-degrading person who has a rational case for guilt.

 

[LBR]

They are but what do you mean match the scream. Rudy has it at 9:15-30.

Rudy is a convicted murderer and a liar who still believes the only thing he did wrong was to not offer Meredith assistance as she was dying. Everything he says must be questioned and not given free pass.

Lalli said in testimony that it takes from 2 to 4 hours. That makes the outside time 10 to 10:30.

Okay.

Do you think that when a woman is murdered the chyme reverses direction and goes back into the stomach?

Obviously not. But I am also not a human forensic expert that can understand the variabilities found in post-mortem gastric emptying. Scientists disagree on many different subjects, and they all proclaim to use reliable scientific standards. The problem arises, when Bertrand Russell's quote is not at least minimally acknowledged.

 

[JREF2010]

But, but they were in the plaza with Curatolo. He said they were there from 9:30 until almost midnight.

For your scenario to begin to work the kids would have to have been in the plaza and been spotted by Curatolo and then left to go kill Meredith when they saw Rudy show up with the stuff. Even though his testimony makes it clear he saw them every time he looked up. So you would have them go to the cottage (were they carrying the knife in the plaza) kill Meredith with Rudy and return to the same place in the plaza unnoticed by Curatolo. They would have to return before the car broke down, on e would think.
Meredith arrived home around 9 by all accounts. You would have her doing what while she hung out at the cottage?

She had eaten around 6 so a normal system would have chyme in the duodenum by latest 9 even if it was a pizza which isn't that fatty.

After the violent horrific murder do you think they were partially covered with blood? Did they avoid walking in the blood with their shoes? Why did Rudy run? who took the phones?

Do you now think that Nara awoke at 10:15? I guess her testimony is fungible.

Imagine being accused of murder, and you hold your pc activity as a main alibi as Raffaele does, and then find out the police/computer experts fried all the hard drives and had been surfing on the laptop reading the news overwriting temp-data.

Raffaele calling this the Reality TV Show Nightmare sums this case up.

 

[Grinder]

Rudy is a convicted murderer and a liar who still believes the only thing he did wrong was to not offer Meredith assistance as she was dying. Everything he says must be questioned and not given free pass.

Well fine but he is the ONLY one that actually has a time. Nara and Monacchia don't have a time to match. I don't happen to believe either one heard Meredith scream , in fact I doubt she was able to scream at all. If there were six hands killing her one would have very quickly covered the mouth.

So it comes back to the scream not matching the TOD 9 o'clock time, but you no time of the scream so how could it.

Obviously not. But I am also not a human forensic expert that can understand the variabilities found in post-mortem gastric emptying. Scientists disagree on many different subjects, and they all proclaim to use reliable scientific standards. The problem arises, when Bertrand Russell's quote is not at least minimally acknowledged.

The literature makes it pretty clear that four hours is the outside time for food to start moving from the stomach. Now if it didn't match up with everything solid maybe you'd have a somewhat reasonable argument. I won't go over the list but the only 'evidence' of a later TOD is Curatolo and to a much lesser extent Nara. They needed Curatolo because they had so little and then he became a hell of a cross to bear...

 

[Dougm]

Rudy is a convicted murderer and a liar who still believes the only thing he did wrong was to not offer Meredith assistance as she was dying. Everything he says must be questioned and not given free pass.

I agree, but aren't you simultaneously stating Rudy is a liar, and accepting some of what he says as truth?

Do you really think that he believes his claims of not being responsible for Meredith's murder?

 

[Dougm]

Well fine but he is the ONLY one that actually has a time. Nara and Monacchia don't have a time to match. I don't happen to believe either one heard Meredith scream , in fact I doubt she was able to scream at all. If there were six hands killing her one would have very quickly covered the mouth.

This depends on whether she would have screamed before or after she was stabbed in the neck. This is pure speculation, but I think it is not inconsistent with the evidence that she may have been killed because she screamed, possibly after being ordered not to.

 

[Dan O.]

So folks, may I ask, is there any merit to these 3 points? I am certain they have been covered at least 25 times before here. Valid points, or is this a lost cause in terms of use of time?

I was under the impression that the 1) fatty meal was not scientifically supported, as well as 2) the duration of the meal inasmuch as it is the start time of the meal that is relevant. As for #3 the argument would have to be that the stress started very close to 9 pm and somehow slowed or postponed the movement of initial chyme into the duodenum. I will take pointers on these. My impression is that this argument/discussion is going nowhere, but will gladly accept redirection.

One of the difficulties of placing the murder after 10PM is that the site where the phones were found was occupied by the cops. Somebody might want to prove me wrong but it just seems that walking up to an active crime scene covered in blood and lobbing a couple of cell phones in would be a particularly bad idea. If anyone does try this, please have someone video it from a safe location so they can post it.

 

[Dan O.]

So have you gone over to PMF and TJMK and asked them as well?

I ought to report this. It is clearly a violation of the membership agreement to suggest that anyone do something that is likely to result in harm to themselves or others.

 

[RoseMontague]

What I was actually wondering, is if there were people who had doubts on either side of the divide.

So have you gone over to PMF and TJMK and asked them as well?

I ought to report this. It is clearly a violation of the membership agreement to suggest that anyone do something that is likely to result in harm to themselves or others.

It is interesting the number of new posters at IIP that took this same approach recently wanting to know why both sides seem pretty firm in their beliefs but only asking one side. It is like climbing a tree and blaring your horn but it is a small tree compared to the one right next to it.

 

[LBR]

Honestly, I’m not trying to cross-examine you.

You could have fooled me. After reading your post, I felt like I was on trial myself.

I will only answer one question from your post. This is because I believe that this type of intellectual masturbation is disrespectful to the victim, and I have already crossed that imaginary boundary long ago on this forum. I understand that most people here do not share that POV and I accept that. However, my POV on this topic is equally valid. We can just agree to disagree on this point.

What evidence do you find most incriminating?

1)AK's blood in the bathroom, multiple mixed DNA (AK &MK) in bathroom, no RG DNA in the bathroom
2)RG footprints go out the front door, not trail into the bathroom
3)Multiple mixed DNA in Filomena's room
4)Sollecito's footprint on bathmat
5)Bra clasp (DNA does not float through the air)
6)The calunnia conviction
7)Confession (large discrepancies in her interrogation experience, even given by herself)
8)etc.

The Meredith wiki makes more sense to me than the information on IIP. I don't even take the information on wiki-spaces seriously, because any site that contains sordid information on people not directly related to the actual case, is a big red flag.

No need to debunk the above. I'm sure in the thousands of posts on this forum, these points have been discussed endlessly and debunked.

I will wait to read the motivation report in the spring.

Until then, I have served no one. If Amanda and Raffaele are truly innocent (which I do not believe they are), then I am sorry for this post and for believing in their guilt. Whether they are innocent or guilty, I apologize to the victim for using this case as a vehicle for ruminating discussions.

This case is a no win situation for anyone. Very, very sad for everyone.

 

[RoseMontague]

From Nara's testimony...

NC:
So, I went to bed around nine, I made a trip to the television, but there was nothing that interested me, and then I fell asleep.
GM:
Excuse me, around 21:00 or 21:30.
NC:
21:00 or 21:30, I do not now that I've looked at the clock, but pretty much, I always go to sleep at that time.
GM:
So 21:00 to 21:30?
NC:
Yes.

So she goes to bed 9-9:30PM

GM:
It has a first awakening.
NC:
Yes.
GM:
How long does it usually? In other cases he looked at the time?
NC:
Well, I know regular, because since I have to take the pads ... in short, are to go to the bathroom and then I pretty much take them at that time and then I make effect, then, these two hours, two hours and something.
GCM:
At what time he takes the pills?
NC:
When I go to sleep.
GCM:
So at nine-thirty.
NC:
Yes.
GCM:
They effect after how long?
NC:
After two hours, two hours and something.
GCM:
For this she quantifies the first sleep in two and a half hours, two hours and something, is it?
NC:
Yes.

So she gets up to go to the bathroom 2 or 2.5 hours later, putting the time 11PM to midnight. (The fake wiki claims 10:30-11PM but this is not what the testimony says)

The now deceased heroin addicted drug dealing park bench bum that has managed to testify in 3 trials for the prosecution puts AK and RS at the basketball court until 11:30PM-to midnight.

So the two super witnesses have placed the TOD by the scream and by AK and RS at the basketball court sometime after 11:30, meaning that meal was still there after 5 hours or more since the start of the meal before the scream was heard.

In my opinion the evidence indicates Meredith was attacked almost immediately by Rudy when she arrived at her cottage a few minutes past 9PM and at a time when both AK and RS were still at his apartment.

 

[RandyN]

Thank you. However, many times I have asked myself, in trying to understand this case, who am I really serving, and to whom is my understanding even beneficial for? I wonder at times if it is just . . . I don't know how to say this politely – 1. And if I am to be completely honest, this is how I see this thread on JREF. just an exercise in intellectual masturbation.
One more thought on the TOD though (to add to this self-gratifying behavior ):

2. If the exact TOD is so very important, then why does IIP not even mention it on their website in its case for innocence?
3.If it is so important, why does the Hellmann report not even mention the topic of gastric emptying and TOD?
4. If it is such an important aspect in definitively clearing the pair of guilt, why have none of the three defence lawyers so far, mentioned it in their most recent summations in Florence? (In all fairness, I don't know what all 4 lawyers said in the first trial in their summations because I do not read Italian).

5. If this was indeed one of the cruxes of this case, and since Cassation sent the case back because the TOD didn't match the scream, one would think, if you are all correct in your opinions about gastric emptying and TOD, the defence lawyers would be all over this. They are not, for whatever reason. And so, I continue reading . . .

(If any answers to my questions involve the concept of the corruption of the entire Italian justice system, then I would end the conversation there. I don't engage in conspiracy-type of thinking. I am however, open to intellectual honesty).

Rolfe says: “It's ridiculous. And why do none of the official verdicts postulate anything like that? I'll tell you why. Because the lawyers had no idea how important the digestive tract contents were, or why they inevitably show what they show”.

I'm not saying you are wrong, Rolfe. With due respect, I'm saying that I would like to see the opinion of other experts to see if they concur with your own.

6. I did read the link that contained many studies done by Camilleri on normal physiology. However, they are not studies in post-mortem gastric emptying in women who have been traumatically brutalized.

1. So in other words intellectual self gratification? Have you read this whole thread ? All the posts since way back when? I can agree that since most of the pro guilt people no longer post here what is left can at times seem to be arguing with each other about irrelevant topics and frankly there is little new factual evidence that has not been gone over in the finest details and over hundreds of pages of discussion. The missing pro guilt posters (they use to be here regularly) are gone. Why? I think because they understand that their arguments have all been disproved by the facts of the case. They are challenged here to provide cites about the claims they are making and when they fail to provide that then they are discounted. I don't consider that gratifying... rather it is pointing out the glaring holes in that persons argument.

2. Really? I haven't posted there for a while but have you read the whole discussion area? I would find it hard to believe that TOD based on the full stomach of MK was discussed and discussed plenty.

3. Hellmann did not need to get to TOD since that court found no evidence of any involvement by AK or RS at all. In fact they concluded that the scientific data presented in the first trial was ....as far as these two defendants were concerned was faulty, improperly collected, handled, stored and tested. That court also found that the major prosecution witnesses were a odd mixture of unreliable useless witnesses who each had some strong indicators that what they claimed was either impossible, fact-less or simply had to be lies. SO yes they kinda ignored TOD there...I agree with you that this was wrong to do.

4. I can only give you my opinion here and most already know what I will say...These defense lawyers have been incompetent since day one. No one including Bongiorno has done a competent job or even seems qualified to handle a murder case. Bongiorno spent most of the first trial away since she was pregnant and having a baby...she was the major reason for that trials long delays...the rest are a mix of unqualified lawyers chosen more for political connections rather that criminal trial experience. So yes I also agree with your confusion and conclusion that it makes no sense for this strong TOD evidence to not have been full fleshed out.

5. The key point here and also a slight rebut to my number 4 above ...a confusing mass of subtle and not so subtle scientific data was lost in the definitions is pointed to here in your comment....when you say ..."opinions about gastric emptying and TOD" The prosecution used this same misdirection of terms to be confused in the court and clearly by the defense about this data to which Rolfe has pointed out to you as clear and conclusive...it was never about gastric emptying! Witness after witness claimed gastric emptying was not reliable for calculating TOD. But that was a red herring. No one cares...or should case about gastric emptying...What was scientifically important and in fact critically important in estimating TOD with the digestive state were the known facts about the time the meal started, what that meal was, and the condition of that meal (it had not even started to transition into the duodenum) since it was all still inside MK stomach. There are conclusive studies about this first transition phase plus it was confirmed that the autopsy was properly preformed. Plus we know positively that MK was still alive around 9PM. Now add those to the other bits of circumstantial evidence such as MK never removed her outer clothes before she was attacked, she never reattempted the incomplete call to her mom, she never text or called anyone in her usual pattern, she didn't take care of her laundry...some of these things might be less important but taken together they are powerful evidence that Miss Kercher was attacked shortly after 9:05 PM and was probably dead before 9:15 and certainly by 9:30.

So yes this was critical scientific evidence that the defense completely failed to utilize properly in putting on a simple defense against this most ludicrous of cases.

No conspiracy discussion is necessary unless you wish to study Italian ego and the need to be correct. That has to be important somehow but I don't wish to discuss or even care about it. I don't have to live in Italy.

6. Forget gastric emptying....study transition times from stomach to duodenum...you can search it out here as cite after cite is presented and published studies are also cited.

7. I accidentally cut out a point of yours but still wanted to comment...it was your point about the defense after 6 years failing to hammer at this critical data. This is a great observation and highly relevant question. For me it is proof positive that none of the defense knows how to do their jobs very well. Because there is no excuse for them not to make this point for the defense...this added to the other circumstantial points is overwhelming proof of TOD, and that TOD proves the innocence of AK and RS. Even if you wish to argue it is not complete proof, it certainly creates a gap of proof that makes a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt impossible!

The defense also failed to point out all the lies of the prosecution witnesses like Stefanoni for telling the lie in pretrial about the quantification of DNA sample 36B, or Stefanoni and Comodi attempting twice to sneak false control sheet documents into the case file...being caught by the judge but left unpunished for that....the type of thing that would land people in jail due to its abusive corrupt nature inside a normal real court...but in Italy...nothing! Hellmann yelled at them but left them unpunished. And so no...he didnt need TOD to find the two innocent...he understood why the prosecution had no real case. No real evidence. No real witnesses. No real motive. No video. Nothing really if you look in detail. Stop listening to the chatter of words and simply examine the evidence...and examine the lack of evidence as well.

You don't have to believe in a conspiracy....but Italy has the worst record against human rights violations by its courts for a well earned reason...I don't say that...that would be intellectual masturbation. That comes from the decisions handed down and on record by the European Court Of Human Rights.

 

[RoseMontague]

1)AK's blood in the bathroom, multiple mixed DNA (AK &MK) in bathroom, no RG DNA in the bathroom
2)RG footprints go out the front door, not trail into the bathroom
3)Multiple mixed DNA in Filomena's room
4)Sollecito's footprint on bathmat
5)Bra clasp (DNA does not float through the air)
6)The calunnia conviction
7)Confession (large discrepancies in her interrogation experience, even given by herself)
8)etc.

The Meredith wiki makes more sense to me than the information on IIP. I don't even take the information on wiki-spaces seriously, because any site that contains sordid information on people not directly related to the actual case, is a big red flag.

No need to debunk the above. I'm sure in the thousands of posts on this forum, these points have been discussed endlessly and debunked.

I will wait to read the motivation report in the spring.

Until then, I have served no one. If Amanda and Raffaele are truly innocent (which I do not believe they are), then I am sorry for this post and for believing in their guilt. Whether they are innocent or guilty, I apologize to the victim for using this case as a vehicle for ruminating discussions.

This case is a no win situation for anyone. Very, very sad for everyone.

Yes, all this has been debunked endlessly and the pro-guilt fake wiki contains many errors, lies, and misinformation. I look forward to your return after reading the next motivation report. What happened to Meredith can't be undone but what is happening to AK and RS can be fixed if the judges rule based on the evidence in this case which clearly shows that they are innocent.

 

[Grinder]

If DNA doesn't float through the air why do labs have positive pressure hoods?

How much RS DNA in the bathroom?

Where from did Amanda bleed? (Even a nosebleed leaves visible traces).

The prosecution didn't claim the bathmat print matched RS, only compatible?

Why did the police chief De Felice say that his men were able to make Amanda buckle and tell them what they wanted knew to be correct when it wasn't correct? What do you think they knew to be correct before Amanda made her statement? Why does the calumnia conviction mean anything to do with the murder?

 

[Dan O.]

Thank you. *However, many times I have asked myself, in trying to understand this case, who am I really serving, and to whom is my understanding even beneficial for? *I wonder at times if it is just . . . *I don't know how to say this politely – just an exercise in intellectual masturbation. *And if I am to be completely honest, this is how I see this thread on JREF.

For me, it is not a matter of serving any group or purpose. I simply enjoy the process of searching for the truth. If you've been aroun other forums discussing this case, you'll find that we hold beliefs here that are not widely held outside of this forum. Some that come to mind are the fact that the clasp was not cut off of the bra, the trail of shoe prints that turn around at the front door (which I already mentioned), the photograph showing the front door open on The morning of November 14 when the crime scene was suposed to be sealed, the theory that the bathmat had been rotated (also mentioned earlier). I don't ask which side this is going to help when I research these things. In fact, the PIPs here throw up the greatest resistance to these changes to the landscape they have become comfortable with.

The pink bathroom photo double exposure was another one of those issues where there was great resistance to change. Even after I Linked to the two photos nobody could see the difference. I had to produce this side by side comparison before they could see it:

This probably means absolutely nothing as far as guilt or innocence goes. But it is a truth that I worked to expose. When I was following the shoe print trail, I didn't know where it was going to lead. But I posted my progress here each (literally) step of the way. More recently, the question about the blood drips on the steps leading to the downstairs apartment came up. I don't know if they are related to the case or not. The forensics seem to have come up negative. But I posted how they should appear if they were caused by bloody water dripping off Rudy's pant leg. This again has no barring on the guilt or innocence of Amanda or Raffaele but I will someday dig up those photos to see if this is evidence that Rudy went down those steps after the murder.