Moderated What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

Polaris said:
You conveniently ignore the part about the 767 being anything but mostly hollow, particularly WRT the wings.

Following your incredibly faulty logic, the picture below should not be possible because everybody knows wood isn't stronger than concrete:

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plus, the chair was hollow too.
 
yankee451 said:
Next up, a straw through a tree, followed by KAMIKAZES!
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I was talking to (more listening than talking :) ) to Darryl Greenamyer's uncle at Darryl's supersonic speed record flights at Mudd Lake Nevada in 1977.
His uncle told me he was on the battleship USS Missouri in an AA gun emplacement when this kamakaze hit the side of the ship. One of the guns in the Zero went into the barrel of one of the 40mm cannon in the gun he was crewing.
 

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yankee451 - you need to look up the concept of "impulse". This will explain how a soft lead bullet can penetrate a much greater mass of harder steel, or how a human hand can smash a stack of bricks. Wiki would be a good start, and Newton's 3rd law comes into play.

Ever noticed how you can lean a teaspoon quite hard on a soft-boiled egg and the shell doesn't crack, but if you give the egg a sharp but light tap the shell will break? Time in which to react or flex..... Think time.
 
Animal said:
Care to point out the "sharp steel knives"?



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These are the knife edges I refer to:
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According to the NIST this is what happened:
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But according to the swept-back construction of the wings, they would have struck in a wedge-motion (not at right angles). So the NIST is clearly wrong.

Furthermore, they didn't consider the construction of the columns which the wing would impact one column edge at a time, sequentially from the fuselage-out:
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Considering the steel slicing nature of wings:
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It's obvious to a barnyard animal a southbound jet would not cause westward bends:

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Huttosaurus said:
Ironically, this one pic fatally undermines your entire theory.
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Not to mention but for many years gentleman wearing 30-60 pounds of iron and steel plate armour started to find that unruly common folk were using gunpowder to fire a half ounce piece of lead though their expensive and non protecting suits....which is why they stopped wearing them....

So how does soft lead penetrate hard iron and steel?

lol
 
Here's a couple of 8x10 glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, illustrating some of features of the WTC 2 crash.
I'm expecting this just be another addition to the file on "American Blind Justice", but...
The paragraph on the back of each one..
Image the first... the ejecta from the plane's collision with WTC-2. The path of the plane from right to left in the image... and the parts of course continuing on to the left.
Image the second... the paths of the plane into the building and the parts from the plane leaving the building.
Image the third... a couple thousand pounds of congealed hologram of the motor that went to Murray Street.
 

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I Ratant said:
Here's a couple of 8x10 glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, illustrating some of features of the WTC 2 crash.
I'm expecting this just be another addition to the file on "American Blind Justice", but...
The paragraph on the back of each one..
Image the first... the ejecta from the plane's collision with WTC-2. The path of the plane from right to left in the image... and the parts of course continuing on to the left.
Image the second... the paths of the plane into the building and the parts from the plane leaving the building.
Image the third... a couple thousand pounds of congealed hologram of the motor that went to Murray Street.
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Don't lets forget the hologram of the wall panel. All 24 bolts top and bottom were snapped simultaneously, as well as the 192 bolts connecting the spandrel plates side to side, but the alleged jet depris had so much power that after snapping all those bolts it propelled the 4 ton steel wall panel 700 horizontal feet while falling 1000 feet to gently land on the ground without shattering the sidewalk.

That's some kind of magic loogie.

Landing-Gear-2.jpg
 
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yankee451 said:
Don't lets forget the hologram of the wall panel. All 24 bolts top and bottom were snapped simultaneously, as well as the 192 bolts connecting the spandrel plates side to side, but the alleged jet depris had so much power that after snapping all those bolts it propelled the 4 ton steel wall panel 700 horizontal feet while falling 1000 feet to gently land on the ground without shattering the sidewalk.

That's some kind of magic loogie.

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Amazing!
You have access to the information, but all of it is beyond your comprehension.
That would be sad, were the problem not endemic in the truther world.
Incurable.
 
I Ratant said:
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Amazing!
You have access to the information, but all of it is beyond your comprehension.
That would be sad, were the problem not endemic in the truther world.
Incurable.
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Finally I have met someone who knows all.

Do tell me oh wise one, what is beyond my comprehension, and what am I thinking now?
 
phunk said:
The steel was not "cut". It had a large force applied to it and it mostly bent and broke apart at the connections between column segments.
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I know-oww!

The jet was struck at 500 MPH by a 500000 ton building and the building got creamed.

Wacky, huh!
 
yankee451 said:
I know-oww!

The jet was struck at 500 MPH by a 500000 ton building and the building got creamed.

Wacky, huh!
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What happens when a 1/2 ounce of soft lead ball going 900 ft per sec hits a sixty pound suit of armour ?
 
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