Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

[abaddon]

I do not force anyone to believe what the spirit of Ama said. I am just sharing to you what I heard and know and have experienced. It is up to you to decide whether you will believe Him wholly or partially, or totally reject Him.

When I find supporting evidences, I present them to you. As before, the decision to believe is up to you.

And in seven months time when your fantasies once again come to nought, will you be repeating your faithful promises to reject the false prophet Ama and Ka Apaz, just like you did the last time? Or will you simply hide for a year and pretend the failures didn't happen?

 

[Elizabeth I]

When I find supporting evidences, I present them to you.

What "supporting evidences" have you presented? So far it's all been made up from whole cloth by Ka Apaz.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Do you know when Pontius Pilate was born? Do you know when he died? Do you know the events surrounding his burial? Do you know when the Jewish legend of the golem start?

Here is the spirit of Ama telling us the true events. Why do you not believe Him?

 

[fromdownunder]

Here is the spirit of Ama telling us the true events. Why do you not believe Him?

Because she (not he) is full of ****.

As you already said:

As before, the decision to believe is up to you.

So stop begging us to believe. You look like a 6 year old when you do this, and you have certainly lied about not posting any more IF the 2012 Olympics were completed without World War III starting. Why did you lie about this, and then expect people to believe the rest of your crap?

You are a proven liar, by claiming you would not make further posts if the Olympics went ahead, and then 18 months later, continuing to post the same stuff.

Norm

 

[AdMan]

Here is the spirit of Ama telling us the true events. Why do you not believe Him?

Because Ka Apaz is a lying fraud and isn't channeling any spirit. Did you already forget all the lies about the London Olympics and the supposed world war? Did you forget that you told us if the prophecies didn't come true you would denounce her as a false prophet?

We haven't forgotten her lies or yours.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Peace Crusader, the next time you meet a priest of any denomination please tell him about Jesus making Pontius Pilate out of clay. Then come back and tell us how he reacted.

Also, do you accept that neither Constantine or Helena were 'Moors', and that Helena's father was not a king but someone of low social rank, perhaps an innkeeper? Or do you prefer to rewrite history rather than accept that Ama's words are merely nonsense made up by a poorly-educated old woman?

Prince Constantine and his mother Helena, according to the spirit of Ama, were Moors.

According to World Book Dictionary, a Moor is “a member of a Moslem people of mixed Arab and Berber stock living in northwestern Africa. The Moors invaded and conquered Spain in the 700’s A.D.”

How could Constantine and his mother Helena be Moors when there was no Islam yet in the Fourth Century A.D.? Because they did not have faith in the true God yet. Ama said that those who do not believe in the true God are considered “dead”. Jesus said in John 14:6, “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

 

[AdMan]

...according to the spirit of Ama...

In other words, here are yet more lies.

 

[fromdownunder]

How could Constantine and his mother Helena be Moors when there was no Islam yet in the Fourth Century A.D.? Because they did not have faith in the true God yet. Ama said that those who do not believe in the true God are considered “dead”. Jesus said in John 14:6, “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

So, according to you, everybody who lived in the Americas, Australia, Asia, the Pacific and Northern Europe were Moors in the 4th Century of the Common Era. This gets more weird by each post you make. You are making up stuff to defend other stuff you have made up.

BTW, what about the Olympics in London? How many of us died in WWIII? How many metres of duct tape do you still own? How many door stoppers do you still own? How about your 10 wives?

You can pretend in your own mind that this will "go away" but trust me, it will not. Your lies are on the record on this Board and will never be forgotten.

Norm

 

[hurdygurdy]

Here is the spirit of Ama telling us the true events. Why do you not believe Him?

Because Ama is a false prophet and you are a liar. This is why nobody believes you.

 

[Pixel42]

Do you know when Pontius Pilate was born? Do you know when he died? Do you know the events surrounding his burial? Do you know when the Jewish legend of the golem start?

Does your favourite mad old woman know any of these things? What little is known about Pilate she manages to get wrong, as she doesn't bother to check what facts have actually been established before making stuff up.

Here is the spirit of Ama telling us the true events. Why do you not believe Him?

Here is a mad old woman making stuff up about the past, most of which is provably false, and making predictions about the future, none of which ever come true. Why do you believe her?

 

[pakeha]

Prince Constantine and his mother Helena, according to the spirit of Ama, were Moors.

According to World Book Dictionary, a Moor is “a member of a Moslem people of mixed Arab and Berber stock living in northwestern Africa. The Moors invaded and conquered Spain in the 700’s A.D.”

How could Constantine and his mother Helena be Moors when there was no Islam yet in the Fourth Century A.D.? Because they did not have faith in the true God yet. Ama said that those who do not believe in the true God are considered “dead”. Jesus said in John 14:6, “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

"How could Constantine and his mother Helena be Moors when there was no Islam yet in the Fourth Century A.D.?"
They couldn't, PC.
This should be a tip-off that Maria Liwayway Alvaran is making the stuff up. While the woman is interesting as a survivor of age-old spiritual fraud, there's no reason to believe she has any capacity to channel any sort of spirit.

Remember, the spirit's communications have been shown to be incorrect and they've been shown to be incorrect by simple Google searches.
Could the spirit of Jesus be so wrong about the past?

Didn't the nonsense about Angeline Imden alert you to the fakery of these communications?

Or the non-history of the fake Egyptian princess?

 

[Craig B]

Prince Constantine and his mother Helena, according to the spirit of Ama, were Moors ...
How could Constantine and his mother Helena be Moors when there was no Islam yet in the Fourth Century A.D.? Because they did not have faith in the true God yet. Ama said that those who do not believe in the true God are considered “dead”. Jesus said in John 14:6, “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

I think I see what's happening here. This use of "Moors" is a misleading translation of the Philippino-Spanish expression "Moros" by which the Spanish designated the indigenous Islamic element of the population living there at the time of the Spanish conquest. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish–Moro_conflict. I suppose it just loosely means "infidels" in "Ama's" parlance, and implies that Constantine and his mum weren't Christians from infancy, nothing else. To westerners, "Moors" refers to a specific and definable ethnic group.

 

[pakeha]

Well done, Craig B.
It's easy to overlook the Spanish colonisation and evangelisation from the 16th century as a source of a lot of the terms used by Maria Liwayway Alvaran.
Moors, indeed.

 

[Brainache]

I thought they were Moops.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

I think I see what's happening here. This use of "Moors" is a misleading translation of the Philippino-Spanish expression "Moros" by which the Spanish designated the indigenous Islamic element of the population living there at the time of the Spanish conquest. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish–Moro_conflict. I suppose it just loosely means "infidels" in "Ama's" parlance, and implies that Constantine and his mum weren't Christians from infancy, nothing else. To westerners, "Moors" refers to a specific and definable ethnic group.

You are right, Craig B. Prince Constantine and her mother Elena were “Moros”, meaning “infidels” in “Ama’s” parlance. This is in http://aristean.org/pahayag083.htm and its English translation in post no. 403 of this thread.

 

[pakeha]

I thought they were Moops.

Shiny!

You are right, Craig B. Prince Constantine and her mother Elena were “Moros”, meaning “infidels” in “Ama’s” parlance. This is in http://aristean.org/pahayag083.htm and its English translation in post no. 403 of this thread.

"Infidels"?
Perhaps you should read about Constantine, PC.
It's hard to believe a genuine source of truth would've called him an infidel.

 

[pakeha]

You are right, Craig B. Prince Constantine and her mother Elena were “Moros”, meaning “infidels” in “Ama’s” parlance. This is in http://aristean.org/pahayag083.htm and its English translation in post no. 403 of this thread.

Here's an earlier refutation of the idea Maria Liwayway Alvaran gave out that Constantine was an infidel who fought against Rome
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8607049&postcount=420

 

[Alice Shortcake]

You are right, Craig B. Prince Constantine and her mother Elena were “Moros”, meaning “infidels” in “Ama’s” parlance. This is in http://aristean.org/pahayag083.htm and its English translation in post no. 403 of this thread.

So they were "infidels" - ie non-believers in Christianity - in exactly the same sense that the Romans were? That still doesn't explain Ama's mistake about Helena being a king's daughter, or she and her son Constantine fighting "the Romans". You - or rather Ka Apaz - make it sound like a war between two nations when it was really a power struggle between Roman factions (the sort of mistake someone with no knowledge of history would make).

The fact that Ka Apaz is using the word "Moor" in a way unfamiliar to most Westerners doesn't make her story any less nonsensical. The Romans didn't have kings at that point in history. If Helena's father was a king she must have been a foreign princess. We know that she wasn't, unless of course you want to rewrite history in an effort to preserve your belief in Ama.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Shiny!


"Infidels"?
Perhaps you should read about Constantine, PC.
It's hard to believe a genuine source of truth would've called him an infidel.

Yes, pakeha, Prince Constantine and her mother Elena were infidels. Please note: Prince Constantine. Later on, he became Emperor Constantine I and he became a Christian. He became a believer of Jesus Christ.

 

[Rincewind]

You know, I can't help thinking that this is just one, big wind-up.

After all, the story is way too fantastic and preposterous to be believable.

Although, there are people who believe in a flat earth, apparently....