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Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

He won't deal with either, O divine son of the Aten. We're dealing with someone who'd rather dump recorded history, the Bible and the concept of 'acting' rather than accept that Ama doesn't exist. He'd probably get on well with DOC, who refuses to accept the existence of modern Tyre because its total destruction was prophesied in the Bible.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
It was not the Passover Festival that the Holy Family went to Jerusalem, pakeha. It was a census. This was revealed to us by the spirit of Ama. How many times do the Romans conduct a census?
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How much proof does this spirit of Alma have?
 
Alice Shortcake said:
You can visit York without an excuse, you know. In fact, PLEASE visit York and throw some cash about because tourism is the only industry we've got left. ...
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Better yet, we could set up shop selling authentic replicas of Helena's floating nail, authentically dipped in the Ouse and the Foss.
 
svenax said:
Why did Helena believe the nail thrown in the sea should float?

And how could the one that floated to Paris end up at a church that wasn't built until several hundred years later?
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It took the scenic route.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
He won't deal with either, O divine son of the Aten. We're dealing with someone who'd rather dump recorded history, the Bible and the concept of 'acting' rather than accept that Ama doesn't exist. He'd probably get on well with DOC, who refuses to accept the existence of modern Tyre because its total destruction was prophesied in the Bible.
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Perhaps we could have a debate about Tyre being saved from Nebuchadnezzar's wrath by a group of kohanim throwing the body of Julius Cæsar (for whom we have no signature) into the Bosphorus.

Or something.
 
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pakeha said:
Better yet, we could set up shop selling authentic replicas of Helena's floating nail, authentically dipped in the Ouse and the Foss.
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Nails (plural), actually. According to Socrates of Constantinople:


A Jew called Judas (in later retellings called Cyriacus) led Helena to the place they were buried. Several miracles were claimed, to prove the authenticy of these items, and she returned with a piece of the cross and the nails. One nail was used to make a bridle, one was used to make the Helmet of Constantine and two were cast into the Adriatic Sea.
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PeaceCrusader said:
Because Jesus was at the center, He had four nails—one each for His hands, and one each for His feet. The fifth nail is for the INRI sign. The name of the thief to the right of Jesus is Dimas. His right foot over his left foot to face the center. The name of the thief to His left is Hestas. His left foot over his right foot also to face the center. They have signs also over their head to identify the condemned persons. Dimas and Hestas each had four nails

Santa Elena, in the fourth century AD, found twelve nails, eight of which were rusty because they had been buried for over three hundred years. Please read #265 on page 7 of this thread.

Why did Santa Elena find only 12 nails? There should be 13. Because one nail had been thrown into the sea during the First Century AD to calm the storm when Pontius Pilate was to be buried.
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Then there should have been five nails for each one total = 15, where are all the other nails?
 
tsig said:
How much proof does this spirit of Alma have?
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Akhenaten said:
Nails (plural), actually. According to Socrates of Constantinople:


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Pharaoh, as always, has shown the difference between mere mortal thought and divine wisdom.
In addition, Pharaoh supplied the Socrates of Constantinople aka Socrates Scholasticus reference I hunted in vain.
 
Akhenaten said:
Perhaps we could have a debate about Tyre being saved from Nebuchadnezzar's wrath by a group of kohanim throwing the body of Julius Cæsar (for whom we have no signature) into the Bosphorus.

Or something.
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We have come to dunk Caeser, not to bury him.
 
pakeha said:
Pharaoh, as always, has shown the difference between mere mortal thought and divine wisdom.
In addition, Pharaoh supplied the Socrates of Constantinople aka Socrates Scholasticus reference I hunted in vain.
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You might find this link to a PDF of The Ecclesiastical History to be of some interest:



Chapter XV of Book I mentions Helena and some of her adventures at Disneyland Jerusalem.
 
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