Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

[Mojo]

Just thought I would leave this here:

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Wednesday, 2012-07-25, has now passed the US. It is Thursday, 07-26, across the US: 7:15am in New York City, 4:15am in Los Angeles, and 1:15am in Honolulu.

The prophecies of the Holy Spirit that the world war which will start from the trouble in the Philippines will occur on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held, failed to materialize. Even though the Games will officially open tomorrow, 07-27, I cannot move the goal posts anymore because 07-25 is the last Wednesday for the month of July.

I would like to apologize to all of you. I am deeply sorry. I will refrain from discussing prophecies anymore and be tight-lipped on this. I will reconsider my belief that the Holy Spirit who we are talking to is the true Holy Spirit and so is my belief that Ka Apaz’ physical body is appropriated by this spirit. As I used to say, if we were to believe in a god, we have to be sure that He is the only true God. As God, He must be omniscient. That means, He knows the past, the present, and the future.

 

[Dissolution]

All of us are just made of clay, like Pontius Pilate.

We're not and he wasn't.

Any chance that you could address the many factual errors that've been pointed out in this thread, please?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

We're not and he wasn't.

Any chance that you could address the many factual errors that've been pointed out in this thread, please?

So you think that our body or that of Pontius Pilate is made of clay? I will ask you, what is the difference between a living person who is attending a wake and a dead person who is in a coffin and being waked upon?

I believe that Genesis 2:7 is factual. It is not erroreous. Pontius Pilate was a golem that Jesus created when He was twelve years old.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

You do have evidence that these natural disasters actually occured, right ? And the zombie uprising, too ?

I do not have any evidence that these natural disasters actually occurred. The spirit of Ama revealed these. And since I believe that Ama is the spirit of Jesus Christ and is God, they must actually have occurred.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Thanks, PC.
I'd question that story because Paris isn't between Spain and Judea.
I haven't seen any legend about st James ever having been in Paris.

We've gone over just how garbled that devotional text is, even to misrendering the saint's name Santiago.

There are more errors, in your time line.you know.
The dates for Tiberius Ceasar's reign are wrong, as are the dates for the governorship of Pontius Pilate.


Once I've posted this, I'll send off cases of Dom as needed.

I am sorry, pakeha. There are two apostles of Jesus named James. One is the son of Zebedee and brother of the apostle John, and the other is the son of Alphaeus. One is called Saint James the Greater (son of Zebedee) and the other, Saint James the Lesser (son of Alphaeus). I guess the apostle who went to Spain is Saint James the Greater or San Tiago or Santiago. There is Santiago de Compostela in the province of Galicia and that the Patron Saint of Spain is Santiago.

After the crucifixion of Jesus, Saint James must have travelled to spread the teachings of Jesus. He was in Paris, France and found the floating nail in the Seine River. If Jesus was crucified in 1 BC and Pontius Pilate reigned as Governor of Judaea until 4 AD and he died not far away from 4 AD, and the nail was thrown into the sea and floated to Paris, France, it makes sense that it was Saint James who found the nail in Paris. The timeline that I am using is found at http://aristean.org/wp055.htm because I found that Jesus was crucified and died on 1 BC 08-17, and not about 33 AD, is true and correct

Did you know that the Patron Saint of the place in Manila, Philippines where I grew up is named Santiago de Galicia?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Didn't anyone notice this identical appearance? So maybe they crucified Pilate by mistake? Did Jesus then go on to govern Judaea for six years until he was dismissed and summoned to Rome to stand trial for maltreating some Samaritans. Then his unburied body was thrown into the sea by Pharisees? Meanwhile the person who was resurrected, rose to Heaven and now sits on God's right hand is in fact Pontius Pilate?

These are very significant revelations!

Yes, Craig B, Pontius Pilate and Jesus looked exactly the same. Jesus created Pontius Pilate when He was twelve years old. It was Jesus Christ that was crucified.

 

[Robrob]

I do not have any evidence that these natural disasters actually occurred. The spirit of Ama revealed these. And since I believe that Ama is the spirit of Jesus Christ and is God, they must actually have occurred.

This would be the Ama who previously lied to you about the London Olympics and you swore not to believe again?

After the crucifixion of Jesus, Saint James must have travelled to spread the teachings of Jesus. He was in Paris, France and found the floating nail in the Seine River. If Jesus was crucified in 1 BC and Pontius Pilate reigned as Governor of Judaea until 4 AD and he died not far away from 4 AD, and the nail was thrown into the sea and floated to Paris, France, it makes sense that it was Saint James who found the nail in Paris. The timeline that I am using is found at http://aristean.org/wp055.htm because I found that Jesus was crucified and died on 1 BC 08-17, and not about 33 AD, is true and correct

Out of curiosity, how long do you think it would take a "floating nail" to drift from the Mediterranean coast of Judea around the Iberian peninsula and up the seine river - against the current?

 

[pakeha]

...I guess the apostle who went to Spain is Saint James the Greater or San Tiago or Santiago. There is Santiago de Compostela in the province of Galicia and that the Patron Saint of Spain is Santiago.

After the crucifixion of Jesus, Saint James must have travelled to spread the teachings of Jesus. He was in Paris, France and found the floating nail in the Seine River. If Jesus was crucified in 1 BC and Pontius Pilate reigned as Governor of Judaea until 4 AD and he died not far away from 4 AD, and the nail was thrown into the sea and floated to Paris, France, it makes sense that it was Saint James who found the nail in Paris. The timeline that I am using is found at http://aristean.org/wp055.htm because I found that Jesus was crucified and died on 1 BC 08-17, and not about 33 AD, is true and correct

Did you know that the Patron Saint of the place in Manila, Philippines where I grew up is named Santiago de Galicia?

I didn't know that about Santiago in Manila.
I knew about Santiago de Chile and of course I've visited Santiago de Compostela numerous times.

Who says saint James was ever in Paris?

The thing is, we know Pontius Pilate ruled governed Judea after 4 CE. Why do you give these strange dates for Pontius Pilate's governorship?

 

[Craig B]

I didn't know that about Santiago in Manila.
I knew about Santiago de Chile and of course I've visited Santiago de Compostela numerous times.

Who says saint James was ever in Paris?

The thing is, we know Pontius Pilate ruled governed Judea after 4 CE. Why do you give these strange dates for Pontius Pilate's governorship?

Yes, because Judaea was annexed by the Roman Empire only in 6 AD. Before that it was ruled by various local kings, who of course were under Roman influence, but not by governors. And we know that Herod the Great died in 4 BCE because ancient writers tell us the year, and they also tell us there was a lunar eclipse in the northern Spring of that year, and astronomers have verified that indeed there was one then. So that fixes the timeline of the history of the period, and your dates are far out, Peace Crusader.

 

[Wolrab]

So you think that our body or that of Pontius Pilate is made of clay? I will ask you, what is the difference between a living person who is attending a wake and a dead person who is in a coffin and being waked upon?

I believe that Genesis 2:7 is factual. It is not erroreous. Pontius Pilate was a golem that Jesus created when He was twelve years old.

I cannot answer that, but I do know the difference between a Roman Wake and a Roman Wedding. There is one less drunk at the wake.

 

[Craig B]

... I will ask you, what is the difference between a living person who is attending a wake and a dead person who is in a coffin and being waked upon?

If the wake is a Highland or Irish one, and lasts for any great length of time, it can be quite hard to perceive any difference, I admit. Slàinte mhath!

 

[svenax]

After the crucifixion of Jesus, Saint James must have travelled to spread the teachings of Jesus. He was in Paris, France and found the floating nail in the Seine River. If Jesus was crucified in 1 BC and Pontius Pilate reigned as Governor of Judaea until 4 AD and he died not far away from 4 AD, and the nail was thrown into the sea and floated to Paris, France, it makes sense that it was Saint James who found the nail in Paris. The timeline that I am using is found at http://aristean.org/wp055.htm because I found that Jesus was crucified and died on 1 BC 08-17, and not about 33 AD, is true and correct

All right. Let's go along with the idea that James the Lesser went up to Lutetia, and found the nail swimming in the river. What happened in the 300 years between this event and when that part of France actually became christian? Did the nail just lie around somewhere waiting for better times?

 

[svenax]

If the wake is a Highland or Irish one, and lasts for any great length of time, it can be quite hard to perceive any difference, I admit. Slàinte mhath!

Indeed. Slàinte mhòr!

 

[Akhenaten]

We're not and he wasn't.

Any chance that you could address the many factual errors that've been pointed out in this thread, please?

So you think that our body or that of Pontius Pilate is made of clay?

Why in the name of Ma'at would you ask this stupid question when the very post that you're quoting says exactly the opposite?

I will ask you, what is the difference between a living person who is attending a wake and a dead person who is in a coffin and being waked upon?

The smell.

I believe that Genesis 2:7 is factual. It is not erroreous.

It's not original either.

Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.​

The Book of Coming Forth by Day

My mouth is opened by Ptah,
My mouth's bonds are loosed by my city-god.
Thoth has come fully equipped with spells,
He looses the bonds of Seth from my mouth.
Atum has given me my hands,
They are placed as guardians.

My mouth is given to me,
My mouth is opened by Ptah,
With that chisel of metal
With which he opened the mouth of the gods.
I am Sekhmet-Wadjet who dwells in the west of heaven,
I am Sahyt among the souls of On​

​

Pontius Pilate was a golem that Jesus created when He was twelve years old.

Any clues as to how a ushabti managed to acquire the rights and privileges of a Roman citizen?

 

[Akhenaten]

You do have evidence that these natural disasters actually occured, right ? And the zombie uprising, too ?

I do not have any evidence that these natural disasters actually occurred. The spirit of Ama revealed these. And since I believe that Ama is the spirit of Jesus Christ and is God, they must actually have occurred.

Just like the world war that caused the cancellation of the London Olympics, eh?

 

[Akhenaten]

I am sorry, pakeha. There are two apostles of Jesus named James. One is the son of Zebedee and brother of the apostle John, and the other is the son of Alphaeus. One is called Saint James the Greater (son of Zebedee) and the other, Saint James the Lesser (son of Alphaeus).

And you have extra-biblical (or even biblical sources, for that matter) sources for the life and times of both of these fellows, do you?

I guess the apostle who went to Spain is Saint James the Greater or San Tiago or Santiago.

You guess?

Are we to gather that you similarly guess that the other James went to Paris looking for old bits of ironmongery?

 

[Akhenaten]

Yes, Craig B, Pontius Pilate and Jesus looked exactly the same.

And nobody ever noticed?

 

[Astreja]

Yes, Craig B, Pontius Pilate and Jesus looked exactly the same. Jesus created Pontius Pilate when He was twelve years old. It was Jesus Christ that was crucified.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, Aristeo. For all you know, "Ama" is actually the spirit of Pontius Pilate, whose clay body (unfired clay, i'm assuming, because a porcelain prefect would've been suspicious) dissolved in the Mediterranean.

You see, it was Pontius Pilate in the garden of Gethsemane that night, and Jesus judging him and sentencing him to death. After the CruciFiction, it was easy for Pilate to come back to life and go around scaring people by pretending to be Jesus (who had skipped town with Mary Magdalene to start an unpainted furniture shop and raise a family in Gaza).

Pilate subsequently patched up the holes with a little fresh clay and went back to his day job as prefect, till the series of unfortunate events leading to his unscheduled and terminal swim in the sea.

 

[bluesjnr]

Psst, wanna buy this Skull of Christ?

(Tourist) Why yes.

Hey before ya' go, wanna buy this other Skull of Christ?

(Tourist) But you just sold me the Skull of Christ!

Ahh yes, but this is from when he was a child!

(Tourist) In that case.................

 

[Craig B]

Psst, wanna buy this Skull of Christ?

(Tourist) Why yes.

Hey before ya' go, wanna buy this other Skull of Christ?

(Tourist) But you just sold me the Skull of Christ!

Ahh yes, but this is from when he was a child!

(Tourist) In that case.................

Nothing unique about that!

The bones have been certified to be the veritable remains of the Prince of Apostles himself, St. Peter. ...Most precious among the relics remaining of Peter’s skeleton in the Vatican are 29 fragments of one of his skulls. (St. Peter’s other skull is preserved in a reliquary at the Cathedral of St. John Lateran.)

http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3a.htm