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Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

PeaceCrusader said:
The spirit of Ama revealed that there were four nails to nail Jesus on the cross. The fifth nail is for the word “INRI” and its note in Hebrew, Latin and in Greek (John 19:19-20; Matthew 27:37; Mark 15:26; Luke 23:38). This is from http://aristean.org/pahayag081.htm in the original Filipino language. The transcription is from tape k15b, 10:48-13:32.
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Have you no other place to spout this nonsnse
 
Belz... said:
Can't we let the numerous historical Jesus threads come to their obviously natural conclusion of proving whether or not Jesus was a real guy before we go around looking for his nails ?
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Not just nails, Belz.
Nails which floated from Judea to Paris.

We haven't even started in on Pontius Pilate.
 
Belz... said:
I do wonder why people feel the need to construct complex scenarios in order to explain things that aren't even in evidence. :boggled:
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How else would you explain how nails from the crucifixion got into Charlemagnes' crown?

The most obvious solution is that they were thrown overboard to calm a storm then floated to Paris.:eye-poppi
 
Belz... said:
Can't we let the numerous historical Jesus threads come to their obviously natural conclusion of proving whether or not Jesus was a real guy before we go around looking for his nails ?
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You're just saying that to discourage others so you can find them and keep the 10 denarius deposit on them for yourself.
 
pakeha said:
Not just nails, Belz.
Nails which floated from Judea to Paris.

We haven't even started in on Pontius Pilate.
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The nail that floated in the sea is found in http://aristean.org/pahayag082.htm in the original Filipino text. The transcription came from tape k15b, 13:32-15:16.

That nail that floated went to Paris, France is called Clavo Santo or Holy Nail. When Pontius Pilate died and was to be buried, the storm, earthquake, and flooding did not stop. What the Pharisees did was threw the corpse of Pontius Pilate into the sea but the storm, earthquake, and flooding even became intense. What they did was threw one of the nails into the sea and the weather calmed down. The nail floated to Paris and was found by Saint James. There, it was praised because there is no nail that can float.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The nail that floated in the sea is found in http://aristean.org/pahayag082.htm in the original Filipino text. The transcription came from tape k15b, 13:32-15:16.
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That's not evidence that we will accept.

That nail that floated went to Paris, France is called Clavo Santo or Holy Nail. When Pontius Pilate died and was to be buried, the storm, earthquake, and flooding did not stop. What the Pharisees did was threw the corpse of Pontius Pilate into the sea but the storm, earthquake, and flooding even became intense. What they did was threw one of the nails into the sea and the weather calmed down. The nail floated to Paris and was found by Saint James. There, it was praised because there is no nail that can float.
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That isn't evidence either. Do you have anything, anything at all, from a legitimate journal of history? We simply are not interested in the ravings of a false prophet.
 
Astreja said:
Therefore, you are following a false prophet. One failure destroys it all, and Ka Apaz has more than one failure already. There is no possible way for her to undo her failures, because even if she were to have 1,000,000 correct prophesies from now on she has still failed.
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I remember you, Astreja. You were to compare the voice of Ka Apaz and that of spirit of Ama. I found the voice of Ka Apaz in http://aristean.org/pahayag094.htm , http://aristean.org/pahayag095.htm , and http://aristean.org/pahayag096.htm . She interpreted the songs “Meding” (Meding is the name of a woman), “Sa Tuwing Hatinggabi” (Every Midnight), and “Bunso’y Matulog Na” (My young child, sleep now). Please tell us what you find out.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
I remember you, Astreja. You were to compare the voice of Ka Apaz and that of spirit of Ama. I found the voice of Ka Apaz in http://aristean.org/pahayag094.htm , http://aristean.org/pahayag095.htm , and http://aristean.org/pahayag096.htm . She interpreted the songs “Meding” (Meding is the name of a woman), “Sa Tuwing Hatinggabi” (Every Midnight), and “Bunso’y Matulog Na” (My young child, sleep now). Please tell us what you find out.
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I found out that the sound quality was so poor on the recordings that not only could I not tell who was speaking, but due to the narrow frequency range of the voices they could have been either male or female. Thus, I have concluded that your recordings are of no value to us.

I have more important things to do than waste any more time analyzing more of this poorly-collected data and will not be examining any more of it.

Repeating and rephrasing My earlier question, do you have any corroborating documents for your "floating nails" hypothesis that are not based on the witterings of Ka Apaz or your interpretation thereof?
 
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Astreja said:
I found out that the sound quality was so poor on the recordings that not only could I not tell who was speaking, but due to the narrow frequency range of the voices they could have been either male or female. Thus, I have concluded that your recordings are of no value to us.

I have more important things to do than waste any more time analyzing more of this poorly-collected data and will not be examining any more of it.

Repeating and rephrasing My earlier question, do you have any corroborating documents for your "floating nails" hypothesis that are not based on the witterings of Ka Apaz or your interpretation thereof?
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Sorry, they are transcriptions only without the audio. If you wish to hear the audio, they can be uploaded in Yahoo since only 5 MB max (about 5 minutes) can be uploaded at a time.

Regarding ‘any corroborating documents for your “floating nails” hypothesis’, I think there is none other than what the spirit of Ama said.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The nail that floated in the sea is found in http://aristean.org/pahayag082.htm in the original Filipino text. The transcription came from tape k15b, 13:32-15:16.

That nail that floated went to Paris, France is called Clavo Santo or Holy Nail. When Pontius Pilate died and was to be buried, the storm, earthquake, and flooding did not stop. What the Pharisees did was threw the corpse of Pontius Pilate into the sea but the storm, earthquake, and flooding even became intense. What they did was threw one of the nails into the sea and the weather calmed down. The nail floated to Paris and was found by Saint James. There, it was praised because there is no nail that can float.
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Just out of curiosity, which St James found the nail in Paris?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The nail that floated in the sea is found in http://aristean.org/pahayag082.htm in the original Filipino text. The transcription came from tape k15b, 13:32-15:16.

That nail that floated went to Paris, France is called Clavo Santo or Holy Nail. When Pontius Pilate died and was to be buried, the storm, earthquake, and flooding did not stop. What the Pharisees did was threw the corpse of Pontius Pilate into the sea but the storm, earthquake, and flooding even became intense. What they did was threw one of the nails into the sea and the weather calmed down. The nail floated to Paris and was found by Saint James. There, it was praised because there is no nail that can float.
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This fairy tale is bull ****. Nails don't float, except in silly made-up stories. Nobody buys the crap your false prophet is making up.
 
Why are we doing this again, exactly? Wasn't it silly enough last time over?
 
svenax said:
Why are we doing this again, exactly? Wasn't it silly enough last time over?
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It was. I'm not quite sure why this thoroughly idiotic thread was brought back to life, but it certainly is a waste of space.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
When Pontius Pilate died and was to be buried, the storm, earthquake, and flooding did not stop. What the Pharisees did was threw the corpse of Pontius Pilate into the sea but the storm, earthquake, and flooding even became intense.
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How did the Pharisees get hold of Pilate's remains?
The Samaritans reported him to Vitellius, legate of Syria, after he had attacked them on Mt. Gerizim (ad 36). He was then ordered back to Rome to stand trial for cruelty and oppression
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( Enc. Brit.) What then happened is not known, but he certainly didn't go back to Judaea. So did the Pharisees get his body back from Rome and mummify it in case they needed it to quell a storm? Or if he was still unburied, where on earth did this all happen? Pharisees were probably not encouraged to wander about Italy throwing the unburied remains of Roman aristocrats into the sea.
 
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