Vaccine/autism CT discussion

[Dcdrac]

This is the paragraph that Clayton has quoted part of: So Clayton, was it possible to establish a causal relationship between those adverse events reports you referred to (autism and SIDS) and the vaccine?

Another not read the full article classic from clayton moore.....

 

[Clayton Moore]

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/vaccine-injured-sorry-you-dont-count/

Vaccine Injured? Sorry! You don’t count.
Posted on December 22, 2013 by Thinking Moms' Revolution

This blog is dedicated to the memory of Lorrin Danielle Kain, who died four years ago today at the age of 15 from complications directly related to a vaccine injury she experienced at the age of six weeks.

As someone who doesn’t vaccinate her children and the mother of a child who died (of something no vaccine could prevent), I didn’t think it was the least bit funny, much less “hilarious.” And I wasn’t alone. There are no comments allowed on their posts, so I sent Upworthy an email to let them know just how disgusted I was by this attempt at humor. (You can too. Just click on the Contact link or send email to: [email protected].)

You see, I and many of my friends used to think simplistically like the woman in the video. We used to believe that if you didn’t want your kids to die, you vaccinated them — pure and simple. But, for any one of a number of really good reasons, somewhere along the way we started to question that assumption. For some, it was when a healthy baby was vaccinated for hepatitis B on the second day of life and was suddenly fighting for his life in the NICU. For others, it was when they took a healthy child in for a “catch-up” round of vaccinations that marked the line between healthy and developing normally, and chronic debilitating illness and developmental regression. And for still others, it was when their child was rushed to the hospital within 24 hours of a vaccination, and either died as a result or got very close to it. But for all of us, it has meant a more in-depth investigation of the risks and benefits of the current vaccine schedule.

 

[Slowvehicle]

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/vaccine-injured-sorry-you-dont-count/

Vaccine Injured? Sorry! You don’t count.
Posted on December 22, 2013 by Thinking Moms' Revolution

Demonstrating nothing other than that you are not alone in your inability to distinguish between causation and correlation.

 

[Estellea]

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/vaccine-injured-sorry-you-dont-count/

Vaccine Injured? Sorry! You don’t count.
Posted on December 22, 2013 by Thinking Moms' Revolution

Oh really? A "vaccine injury" at six weeks old lead to death at 15 years old? Just because a "thinking mom" said so? That's some delayed reaction.

Hint Clay, not everything on the interwebz is true. I know that's really hard to digest but there it is.

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[Robrob]

Today's gift is The Wall Street Journal.

Your welcome.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303773704579270651278625462

Merck Voluntarily Recalls One Lot of Gardasil
Small Number of Vials May Contain Glass Particles

Read the headline. If that doesn't imply the tip of the catch me if you can iceberg nothing does.

So are you giving up on your claim "Glass Particles" cause autism, only in boys, only in America?

 

[mikado]

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/vaccine-injured-sorry-you-dont-count/

Vaccine Injured? Sorry! You don’t count.
Posted on December 22, 2013 by Thinking Moms' Revolution

This story illustrates the fact that you're missing the whole point of vaccination. NOTHING in life is safe, that's the whole issue of life... but what about posting all the statistics of death rates in communities that are totally unvaccinated..
Oh, that's right, vaccines don't save lives, that's why variolation has been practised for so many hundreds of years.. all those silly people..

 

[000063]

Dr. Tenpenny on Vaccines


http://sanevax.org/silent-suffering-hpv-vaccines/


Pay no attention to those people. If my sons weren't adults I'd make sure they got all three HPV vaccinations.

Yes, we know, more claims from people with no medical training whatsoever. And all doctors are unreliable, unless you think they say they didn't give their kids shots, at which point they become perfectly trustworthy.

Yes, I'm certain you are running your car on water and recommending cannabis as a cure-all for cancer.

You have a true gift. The ability to find endless crank websites.

It's pretty much all he can do when asked to find evidence. At least in the Holocaust thread, he can drive-by the discussions others are having.

How does broken glass get OVERLOOKED in a lab environment?

Interesting how you keep ignoring the question of the actual number. Specifically, 1 in 70,000. What sort of bearing does a lab environment have on people's ability to find mistakes like that?

 

[BangBang]

Hang on, a company finds something wrong with a proportion of their vaccines and to be on the safe side withdraws all of the vaccine, at no doubt, great cost. How does that make them evil?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Hang on, a company finds something wrong with a proportion of their vaccines and to be on the safe side withdraws all of the vaccine, at no doubt, great cost. How does that make them evil?

Something wrong? Broken glass in a lab environment?

That means there isn't a lab environment.

That's more than evil. That's criminal and predatory.

 

[BangBang]

Something wrong? Broken glass in a lab environment?

That means there isn't a lab environment.

That's more than evil. That's criminal and predatory.

So accidents don't happen in your world?

They aren't evil enough to just leave the vaccines with the glass in? Instead they admit it and withdraw every vaccine from that batch to make sure they have all of them. Do you ever actually think about what you are saying?

 

[Clayton Moore]

http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/7-most-disgusting-ingredients-used-to-make-vaccines/

Disgusting Ingredient #1: Cells From Aborted Fetus......

Which Vaccines? Adenovirus vaccine, DTaP vaccine, Hep A vaccine, Hep B vaccine, MMR vaccine, Rabies vaccine, Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #2: Serum From Aborted Calf Fetus Blood.....

Which Vaccines? Adenovirus vaccine, MMR vaccine, Rotavirus vaccine, Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #3: Cells From Armyworms.....

Which Vaccines? Influenza vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #4: Cells From Monkey Kidneys......

Which Vaccines? DTaP vaccine, Japanese Encephalitis vaccine, Polio vaccine, Rotavirus vaccine, Vaccinia vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #5: Cells From Dog Kidneys.......

Which Vaccines? Influenza vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #6: Mouse Brain......

Which Vaccines? Japanese encephalitis vaccine, Rabies vaccine
Disgusting Ingredient #7: Chicken Embryos......

Which Vaccines? Influenza vaccine, Rabies vaccine, Yellow fever vaccine

Read the full article here: http://vactruth.com/2013/10/28/7-disgusting-ingredients/
References

 

[BangBang]

That was a quick change about.

 

[Clayton Moore]

So accidents don't happen in your world?

They aren't evil enough to just leave the vaccines with the glass in? Instead they admit it and withdraw every vaccine from that batch to make sure they have all of them. Do you ever actually think about what you are saying?

What does that have to do with a lab environment?

If broken glass gets added undetected then it's discovered by the customer, how could a customer discover a more likely to occur formula/ingredient/temperature/preparation error?

 

[Clayton Moore]

That was a quick change about.

Just more information for the vaccine zombiebots.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Oh really? A "vaccine injury" at six weeks old lead to death at 15 years old? Just because a "thinking mom" said so? That's some delayed reaction.

That was pretty ugly.

 

[BangBang]

What does that have to do with a lab environment?

If broken glass gets added undetected then it's discovered by the customer, how could a customer discover a more likely to occur formula/ingredient/temperature/preparation error?

Are you confused by the word 'accident'?

The second paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Are you confused by the word 'accident'?

The second paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

Accident? How could broken glass contaminate a vaccine in a lab/controlled environment?


If broken glass gets added undetected then it's discovered by the customer, how could a customer discover a more likely to occur formula/ingredient/temperature/preparation error?
The point of the above is that if broken glass gets by quality control then

formula errors
ingredient errors
temperature fluctuations
contamination
preparation error

would be much more likely to get by quality control.

 

[Robrob]

Oh really? A "vaccine injury" at six weeks old lead to death at 15 years old? Just because a "thinking mom" said so? That's some delayed reaction.

That was pretty ugly.

And yet quite accurate. I notice you failed to refute it?

Accident? How could broken glass contaminate a vaccine in a lab/controlled environment?

Incredulity noted.

Not to mention, it wasn't "broken glass" but glass particles. Odd how you keep calling it something it's not.

The point of the above is that if broken glass gets by quality control then

It didn't, quality control is what picked it up.

 

[Clayton Moore]

http://www.examiner.com/article/pro...nt-death-toll-rises-to-7#sthash.4WVMYv6B.gbpl

Probe Into Hepatitis B Vaccination Contamination As Infant Death Toll Rises To 7



Vaccine contamination.

 

[Estellea]

http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/7-most-disgusting-ingredients-used-to-make-vaccines/

Well Clay since you are smarter than 98.7 people perhaps you would like to explain to us Philistines how a mammalian cell could possibly even get into a vaccine and furthermore, what would it even do.

That was a quick change about.

That's what he does when he can't maintain his current argument.

What does that have to do with a lab environment?

If broken glass gets added undetected then it's discovered by the customer, how could a customer discover a more likely to occur formula/ingredient/temperature/preparation error?

As has been pointed out, glass particles and potentially at that. None have actually been found and also, where do you get that a "customer" discovered this? Merck reported it to the FDA themselves. And clearly this was found with QC so oops again.

That was pretty ugly.

No, it was a spot on observation of how ridiculous your claims are. A person on the interwebz said that their kid died 15 years post "vaccine injury". Not a single medical record and you expect others to mindlessly believe it because you choose to.

http://www.examiner.com/article/pro...nt-death-toll-rises-to-7#sthash.4WVMYv6B.gbpl

Probe Into Hepatitis B Vaccination Contamination As Infant Death Toll Rises To 7

Vaccine contamination.

Nope again and you just can't stay on your own topic can you?

Este