Scientology's support of Apartheid

[Octavo]

Hubbard approved of and was interested in assisting the South African government with their plans for Apartheid in South Africa.

The apartheid government, didn't particularly like the kooky Hubbard, most especially since he wasn't Christian. Hubbard felt that the ruling Nationalist party was supportive of him and dismissive of psychiatry. He later turned against the South African government, not because of Apartheid, but their alleged use of Psychiatry.

What do you think the impact on South Africa today would have been, had Verwoerdt and his successors played ball with Hubbard and cooperated extensively with him?
Do you think Hubbard would have been swayed enough to incorporate aspects of Christianity into Scientology to appease the conservative christian government? Do you think Hubbard had dreams of having Scientology installed as the state religion?

Any other discussion re:Scientology/Apartheid South Africa is welcome


References
http://www.neuereligion.de/ENG/Chidester/pageviii.htm
http://www.solitarytrees.net/racism/aparth.htm
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/apartheid.html

 

[!Kaggen]

Thanks for the links and review.
It does not surprise me that Hubbard supported apartheid.
Scientology was always about elitism.

 

[FreshHat]

I recall from reading The Bare Faced Messiah many years ago that Hubbard set up shop in Ian Smith's Rhodesia in the 1960s.. I also recall the same book claimed that Hubbard believed blacks didn't possess enough intellect to register on his e-meter.

 

[Robrob]

I recall from reading The Bare Faced Messiah many years ago that Hubbard set up shop in Ian Smith's Rhodesia in the 1960s.. I also recall the same book claimed that Hubbard believed blacks didn't possess enough intellect to register on his e-meter.

What's the ethnic diversity of Scientology today?

 

[hgc]

At times like this it's always fun to return to hear the wisdom in Hubbard's own voice.

Have you ever noticed how a negro in particular, down south where they live close to the soil, personifies MEST*? The gate post and the wagon and the whip and anything around there -- a hat; they talk to 'em, you know? 'Wassa a madda wit you, Hat?' They imbue them with personality.

* matter, energy, space and time

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I recall from reading The Bare Faced Messiah many years ago that Hubbard set up shop in Ian Smith's Rhodesia in the 1960s.. I also recall the same book claimed that Hubbard believed blacks didn't possess enough intellect to register on his e-meter.

From the same book. Hubbard thought he was reincarnated from Cecil Rhodes. I imagine Hubbard had a lot of fuzzy thinking going on in his head concerning Sth Africa.

Bare-faced Messiah / by Russell Miller (1987)
"Hubbard believed he was a reincarnation of Cecil Rhodes and liked to sport the kind of hat worn by the founder of Rhodesia. Fortunately, he did not know Rhodes was homosexual"

 

[WildCat]

What's the ethnic diversity of Scientology today?

Completely homogeneous, all morons.

 

[hgc]

Completely homogeneous, all morons.

Stunningly, this is not the case. The biggest mystery about it is how so many intelligent people were snookered by a drunken, drug-addled gibbering idiot who was the most obvious of habitual liars. I think Hubbard's talent for hypnosis and sharp nose for his customer's manipulable levers were what did it.

 

[mikado]

Stunningly, this is not the case. The biggest mystery about it is how so many intelligent people were snookered by a drunken, drug-addled gibbering idiot who was the most obvious of habitual liars. I think Hubbard's talent for hypnosis and sharp nose for his customer's manipulable levers were what did it.

I think there's a lot of truth in that. I was raised as a JW, and as part of my escape saw a few therapists who all showed me statistics that basically where arguing the higher the IQ, almost the more likely people were to be snookered into these nutty groups. It shocked me, and I still find myself on quiet moments looking in the mirror and asking myself how did I really believe it. In my defence I was a child..