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The real cost of "truth:

DGM

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Sorry to say folk but, AE truth lost $1,857 trying to get the word of "truth" out.

There is no free lunch here folks. If you want the "truth" you need to pay.



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I will email a copy of the complete file to anyone that wants it (PM me your email address).

Along with asking me for it, I would also like to ask you to ask AE to put this public file on his site. This is public information and I think he needs to inform his followers as to where their money is really going. He's all about truth and openness, right?

I've made this request to him and his staff (privately)many times. Maybe now is the time others also do so.
 
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wow, over a million and a half in dollars from gullible over a several years

What is the price of gullibility? 2012 the price was 549,000 dollars. Billions short of the hundreds of billions we put in the lotto with a return of -50 percent on the dollar. Lotto pays better than Gage. Gage is 100 percent loss, the lotto is less than 100 percent loss, if we average out the winners across those like me... what do you call us?

Gage is has not peaked. Now he has to spend the money.

He is nearing the target zone for the IRS to investigate.

Will Gage open a church of woo? Will it be as big as Scientology? Baptisms of thermite, holy BS days of passover... What will the religion of Gage be?

What will Gage name his religion? LiarsRUs
 
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beachnut said:
Will Gage open a church of woo?
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He already has (look at the NP classification). ;)

He's got a long ways to go before the IRS gives him any crap. Patrick McDermott is no fool.

Wait till next year when you see how they manipulated the "building what" liability. ;)
 
beachnut said:
Will Gage open a church of woo? Will it be as big as Scientology? Baptisms of thermite, holy BS days of passover... What will the religion of Gage be?

What will Gage name his religion? LiarsRUs
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More likely a '9/11 Truth' museum. Conveniently located near some highway.
Maybe the restaurant will serve a BLT with extra hot Thermite Chipotle sauce; Truth pancakes with berries and pyroclastic whipped cream... who knows?
 
Easy-peasy to get back in the black. Gage just has to cut his pay by only $2000

Its the same recommendation I would make to General Motors or any other company. Profits slip, cut pay of the top exec to reduce costs. For a non-profit that's even easier said since they have no share price to protect.
 
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wow, over a million and a half in dollars from gullible over a several years


"A fool and his money are soon separated...."
 
What "truthers" should be looking at is how effective he is at getting signers of the coveted petition. After all, this is the purpose of the organisation.

They spent $555,000 to get a total of 2200 supporters. That works out to around $250 each. Out of that only 152 were what they qualified as "AEs".

I'm no expert but, if a promoter came up to me and said he could promote my cause and get me supporters at $250 a head, I'd be speechless. I doubt you could find a less cost effective group.
 
DGM said:
What "truthers" should be looking at is how effective he is at getting signers of the coveted petition. After all, this is the purpose of the organisation.

They spent $555,000 to get a total of 2200 supporters. That works out to around $250 each. Out of that only 152 were what they qualified as "AEs".

I'm no expert but, if a promoter came up to me and said he could promote my cause and get me supporters at $250 a head, I'd be speechless. I doubt you could find a less cost effective group.
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Yes but he only got about 500 last year, so that's over $1,000 per head.

There are many engineers in India who would sign up for a fraction of that. Qualified train engineers, heating engineers are landscape architects are all allowed.
 
Richard the G said:
Yes but he only got about 500 last year, so that's over $1,000 per head.

There are many engineers in India who would sign up for a fraction of that. Qualified train engineers, heating engineers are landscape architects are all allowed.
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Some floor coating application engineers?
 
DGM said:
What "truthers" should be looking at is how effective he is at getting signers of the coveted petition. After all, this is the purpose of the organisation.

They spent $555,000 to get a total of 2200 supporters. That works out to around $250 each. Out of that only 152 were what they qualified as "AEs".

I'm no expert but, if a promoter came up to me and said he could promote my cause and get me supporters at $250 a head, I'd be speechless. I doubt you could find a less cost effective group.
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Considering the organisation is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, we should be making the comparison solely on the new A&Es:

$3,650 per new "expert"'s signature.
 
Here are the "Contributors" donations listed on the form:

Contributors:

Alexandria Patty: 39,700
Patricia McSweeny: 10,000
Grizwald Draz: 25,000
Vanguard Charitable Trust: 15,000
Vanguard Charitable Endowment: 15,000
Oleg Kis: 20,000
Jeffrey Barden: 10,000
No Lies Foundation: 9,500
Thomas Spellman: 7,233

(TOTAL $151,433 – 28% of total public support)
 
Orphia Nay said:
Here are the "Contributors" donations listed on the form:

Contributors:

Alexandria Patty: 39,700
Patricia McSweeny: 10,000
Grizwald Draz: 25,000
Vanguard Charitable Trust: 15,000
Vanguard Charitable Endowment: 15,000
Oleg Kis: 20,000
Jeffrey Barden: 10,000
No Lies Foundation: 9,500
Thomas Spellman: 7,233

(TOTAL $151,433 – 28% of total public support)
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Hmmmm? I wonder if the Vanguard amounts are the left pocket giving to the right pocket. Wasn't 30K the number that there was talk of transferring for that advertising campaign (was it the advertising campaign?)?

Vanguard is a directed trust. You stash your money away and then direct Vanguard as to where to distribute it, so that's not a foundation grant, it's an individual. I'm pretty sure both of the Vanguard entities are the same model or close to it.

No Lies Foundation is the sponsor of No Lies Radio where Dick has ads all over the place. He promotes them, they promote him AND give him money. Can anyone find the legal papers for the No Lies Foundation? I can't.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Here are the "Contributors" donations listed on the form:

Contributors:

Alexandria Patty: 39,700
Patricia McSweeny: 10,000
Grizwald Draz: 25,000
Vanguard Charitable Trust: 15,000
Vanguard Charitable Endowment: 15,000
Oleg Kis: 20,000
Jeffrey Barden: 10,000
No Lies Foundation: 9,500
Thomas Spellman: 7,233

(TOTAL $151,433 – 28% of total public support)
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That is actually Griswold Draz, Wellfleet, MA.He has made at least one appearance with Gage. He's a Ron Paul supporter also.

Alexandria Patty appears to live in Eastsound, WA and is self-employed. Donated to Darcy Burner also, it seems.
 
njslim said:
wow, over a million and a half in dollars from gullible over a several years


"A fool and his money are soon separated...."
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Actually, from 2007 till 2012, it was almost exactly 2 million that were spent with hardly any effect other than succesfully keeping Gage and a few other people employed.

Of course that's still peanuts compared to what the leading conspiracy franchises rake in. Icke, for example, reportedly makes that amount in just one year, and he should still be well behind Alex Jones when it comes to gross income. In comparision, Gage is just a small fish trying hard to swim with the big ones.
 
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Here are the "Contributors" donations listed on the form ...

(TOTAL $151,433 – 28% of total public support)
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2011 this position was a total of $44,000. Since the moderate rise in "program service revenues" was probably due to their tour of 58 "world premieres" of Explosive Evidence, this suggests that the overall amount of financial supporters must have declined considerably last year, which kind of explains the efforts behind ReThink911. Most of the large donations don't come in regularly, and there are only so and so many well-to-do and elderly truthers spending parts of their savings on Gage.

Anyway, wherever all the dumb money flowing in for the ReThink911 ads is coming from, 2013 should still become a record year, thanks to the new continuous advertising scheme. Let's see how long they can keep this going.
 
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LSSBB said:
Alexandria Patty appears to live in Eastsound, WA and is self-employed. Donated to Darcy Burner also, it seems.
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Alexandria Patty is either identical with or closely related to Rena Patty, an organic farmer and "non-violent communication" coach from WA (they share a PO Box). Patty went on a cross-country bike tour for 9/11 Truth last year with Pamela Senzee, who recently shot up the AE911 ranks and now is one of several people calling themselves coordinators of the ReThink911 campaign.
 
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