Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[dafydd]

You're welcome, I thought it would be usefull.

And pay no mind to the creatures under the bridge that call those walking above them in the daylight trolls.

Irrelevant and off topic. Where did my telepathy test differ from Michael's? We'll leave the question about you fibbing about some of us claiming to be doctors and giving a diagnosis.

 

[Tomtomkent]

You're welcome, I thought it would be usefull.

And pay no mind to the creatures under the bridge that call those walking above them in the daylight trolls.

So just that we are being absolutely clear Dan. Are you suggesting anybody who has shown concern over the voice in head issue is a troll?

Are you stating here, catagorically, that there is no need at all to have the possible symtom checked out by a qualified doctor?

You recently complained others are unable to make a diagnosis. Is this a skill you have reserved for yourself based upon a single article?

Because I would suggest that only a suitably qualified doctor could make the decision, and the only way to ensure the symptom and related stresses from being directed to kill, would be to visit a doctor.

Micheal. No harm can come from visiting a doctor and being given a clean bill of health. Serious harm could potentially come from ignoring the symptom you describe as being like telepathy. In all likelyhood you have no reason what so ever to worry, but nobody here, including Dan O, are qualified to tell you that. Please take the small amount of time it would require to be sure.

Having known people with mental health issues before I have every reason to worry about the possible side effects, and know that simply being sure that nobody wants to kill you, with out medication, offers its own relief. On the other hand, if the telepathy you describe is a genuine phenomna, surely having all doubt removed by a qualified doctor will be a weight from your mind?

 

[dafydd]

So just that we are being absolutely clear Dan. Are you suggesting anybody who has shown concern over the voice in head issue is a troll?

Typical woo or troll behaviour. The refusal to answer questions and the insults. We've seen it all before. Yawn.

 

[Dan O.]

So just that we are being absolutely clear Dan. Are you suggesting anybody who has shown concern over the voice in head issue is a troll?

Just to be absolutely clear, let's review just who has been calling troll in this thread:

[Post 141]
Author : fromdownunder
Date : 3rd November 2013 01:12 AM

So, now you are saying that none of your three telepathy tests in this forum have been serious? How about trying one serious one with proper controls, instead of trolling members of this Board?

[Post 299]
Author : ComfySlippers
Date : 12th November 2013 05:15 PM

Something weird has happened to to this place.
Attention: Nutter/Troll

[Post 328]
Author : AdMan
Date : 13th November 2013 02:05 AM

Are you trolling?

[Post 330]
Author : AdMan
Date : 13th November 2013 02:09 AM

Yeah, you're trolling.
Not wasting my time on you.
Bye bye.

[Post 536]
Author : dafydd
Date : 22nd November 2013 07:00 AM

How do you know that he is the person named on the diploma? Telepathy? He doesn't come across as being a scientist. There are not many scientists who are completely unaware of the scientific method. A child could spot the flaws in his 'test'. Are you trolling for amusement?

[Post 582]
Author : ComfySlippers
Date : 22nd November 2013 11:02 PM

Troll. Alarm Bells

[Post 588]
Author : dafydd
Date : 23rd November 2013 05:38 AM

Troll. Alarm Bells​

I agree. Do not feed.

[Post 613]
Author : dafydd
Date : 27th November 2013 08:06 AM

Nope. Either that or a troll.

[Post 619]
Author : Akhenaten
Date : 27th November 2013 09:04 AM

Not to mention that rcfieldz was, as usual, simply trolling and didn't even take part in the alleged test.

[Post 695]
Author : TheSapient
Date : 29th November 2013 11:33 PM

I believe he was hoping someone would respond to him. People did. Troll successful.

[Post 700]
Author : Dan O.
Date : 30th November 2013 06:26 AM

And pay no mind to the creatures under the bridge that call those walking above them in the daylight trolls.

[Post 703]
Author : dafydd
Date : 30th November 2013 07:23 AM

Typical woo or troll behaviour. The refusal to answer questions and the insults. We've seen it all before. Yawn.

 

[Tomtomkent]

So just that we are being absolutely clear Dan. Are you suggesting anybody who has shown concern over the voice in head issue is a troll?

Just to be absolutely clear, let's review just who has been calling troll in this thread:

If you wanted to be clear, perhaps you could answer the question I asked.
ETA:
As you did not answer immediately, and until you do so, I can only assume you are for some reason encouraging Michel NOT to seek medical help and to find out if he has a reason to be concerned by his voices or not.

I also note that no quote of anybody claiming to be a doctor has been produced.

Nor has there been any quote of any user claiming their opinion was a diagnosis.

Might I ask if these "trolls" you list were reported?

 

[dafydd]

Just to be absolutely clear, let's review just who has been calling troll in this thread:

[Post 141]
Author : fromdownunder
Date : 3rd November 2013 01:12 AM


[Post 299]
Author : ComfySlippers
Date : 12th November 2013 05:15 PM


[Post 328]
Author : AdMan
Date : 13th November 2013 02:05 AM


[Post 330]
Author : AdMan
Date : 13th November 2013 02:09 AM


[Post 536]
Author : dafydd
Date : 22nd November 2013 07:00 AM


[Post 582]
Author : ComfySlippers
Date : 22nd November 2013 11:02 PM


[Post 588]
Author : dafydd
Date : 23rd November 2013 05:38 AM


[Post 613]
Author : dafydd
Date : 27th November 2013 08:06 AM


[Post 619]
Author : Akhenaten
Date : 27th November 2013 09:04 AM


[Post 695]
Author : TheSapient
Date : 29th November 2013 11:33 PM


[Post 700]
Author : Dan O.
Date : 30th November 2013 06:26 AM


[Post 703]
Author : dafydd
Date : 30th November 2013 07:23 AM

Lol. You just continued your troll-like behaviour by not answering the question.

 

[dafydd]

If you wanted to be clear, perhaps you could answer the question I asked.
ETA:
As you did not answer immediately, and until you do so, I can only assume you are for some reason encouraging Michel NOT to seek medical help and to find out if he has a reason to be concerned by his voices or not.

I also note that no quote of anybody claiming to be a doctor has been produced.

Nor has there been any quote of any user claiming their opinion was a diagnosis.

Might I ask if these "trolls" you list were reported?

Not to mention my question about my telepathy test which was almost the same as Michael's. He seems to be prepared to consider that Michael may be telepathic, but not me. Sob!

 

[Dan O.]

Might I ask if these "trolls" you list were reported?

Thanks for the incentive.

 

[dafydd]

Thanks for the incentive.

Read the MA first. You called us trolls too, and that does not violate the MA. You can call me a troll to your heart's content. That will give you no time to actually answer questions.

 

[dafydd]

Should I report Don O for accusing some of us of lying about being doctors? Nah. Live and let live, I say.

 

[Femke]

Not to mention my question about my telepathy test which was almost the same as Michael's. He seems to be prepared to consider that Michael may be telepathic, but not me. Sob!

Dafydd, you keep calling Michel Michael. Not that it matters, it is clear who you are referring to, but I think he would appreciate being called by his own name.

May I add my voice to those of the other non-doctors who urge Michel to consult a medical professional?

[relurk]

 

[TheSapient]

I'm not clear on what Dan O is trying to demonstrate with that list. He is asked to back up his claims about people pretending to be doctors, and he responds with a list showing that people here by and large consider him to be a troll. While I appreciate the admission, I'm not sure it was worth the effort.

 

[Michel H]

I'm not clear on what Dan O is trying to demonstrate with that list. He is asked to back up his claims about people pretending to be doctors, and he responds with a list showing that people here by and large consider him to be a troll. While I appreciate the admission, I'm not sure it was worth the effort.

Perhaps Dan O. understands better than many posters here that current psychiatrists do not deal with genuine telepathy phenomena (including telepathic voices for example), and that trying to consult a psychiatrist (or a general practitioner) to ask for help about such phenomena would likely be a waste of time.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Perhaps Dan O. understands better than many posters here that current psychiatrists do not deal with genuine telepathy phenomena (including telepathic voices for example), and that trying to consult a psychiatrist (or a general practitioner) to ask for help about such phenomena would likely be a waste of time.

If your condition WAS telepathic.

If on the other hand you were unable to prove telepathic powers, then it would be a very good idea to seek help.

After all there is an unfortunately obvious reason "genuine" telepathy wont be treated. The same reason Unicorn burns wont be treated. Again, if you believe your powers are genuine what harm comes from having internal causes discounted? Or from finding you are wrong and nobody wanted you dead?

 

[bruto]

The site Dan O. linked to suggests that the feeling of telepathy is not necessarily a matter of mental illness, but does not seem to suggest that it is telepathy either. There is a very big difference between hearing voices and believing they come from something outside yourself.

 

[Dan O.]

There is a very big difference between hearing voices and believing they come from something outside yourself.

Is there?
http://blog.ted.com/2013/08/08/ever...out-voice-hearing-but-were-too-afraid-to-ask/

http://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head.html

 

[Jack by the hedge]

The site Dan O. linked to suggests that the feeling of telepathy is not necessarily a matter of mental illness, but does not seem to suggest that it is telepathy either. There is a very big difference between hearing voices and believing they come from something outside yourself.

Yes, the link is rather reassuring that so long as the hearer doesn't feel the voices are controlling their life, most hearers find they can cope just fine with their voices.

This is, however, a side issue compared to the actual point of this thread which is Michel's feeling that he is a psychic transmitter who broadcasts his thoughts to the whole human race. Now I can say for certain that he is not, since I can't hear him, and I fondly imagine everyone else can say the same. Michel of course disagrees, but how to settle the matter?

Well I still rather like my idea of broadcasting a phone number and a cash incentive to call it. Michel waved that away as too hard a task, but please consider that he expects every participant in this thread (scattered all over the planet as we are) to be able to hear his single number thoughts, even if he thinks we might lie about it.

With the whole 7 billion humans to broadcast to, or at least the vast number who have access to a phone, is it really too hard a task for anyone anywhere to receive a single phone number? I can't see the logic in that position.

 

[bruto]

Is there?
http://blog.ted.com/2013/08/08/ever...out-voice-hearing-but-were-too-afraid-to-ask/

http://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head.html

I didn't play the whole thing, not being in a position do do so right now, but it seems as if the person in those links has learned to cope with her voices and not to presume that they belong to anyone but her. In her written remarks she quite explicitly refers to the voices as representing "a part of her" that is not otherwise heard.

In any case, though, even if Michel were psychic and hearing other voices, in what possible way would this negate my statement that inside and outside are very different from one another?

 

[TheSapient]

Perhaps Dan O. understands better than many posters here that current psychiatrists do not deal with genuine telepathy phenomena (including telepathic voices for example), and that trying to consult a psychiatrist (or a general practitioner) to ask for help about such phenomena would likely be a waste of time.

If you are so convinced that you are telepathic, why do you refuse to participate in a quality test of your abilities? Why do you need to use a set of numbers small enough to make it likely people will guess the right number by chance? Why do you insist on fudging the numbers afterwards.

You don't act like a person who believes he has telepathic powers. At this point, it seems to me you just pretend the voices in your head have something to do with telepathy because you don't want the hassle of dealing with doctors.


(Note to Dan O.: Yes, I used the word "doctors". This is not meant to imply that I am a doctor, that I am doctors, that I am the 13 Doctors, nor that I am an association of, or representing, doctors.)

 

[dafydd]

(Note to Dan O.: Yes, I used the word "doctors". This is not meant to imply that I am a doctor, that I am doctors, that I am the 13 Doctors, nor that I am an association of, or representing, doctors.)

How dare you pretend to be a doctor!