Ed Helicopter Crashes into Glasgow Pub

Rolfe said:
I started a thread in FM about the title.

I reported the OP many hours ago, with a request for the title to be changed. Another title in SI&CE has been changed since then, but not this one. I can only conclude the admins think it's OK.

Rolfe.
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What's wrong with the title?

I've been using message boards, BBSes, IRC, etc since the early 90's and in all that time I've never felt that I couldn't handle seeing someone else express themselves. I'm frankly baffled by the level of moderation which takes place here... but I am encouraged that they're ignoring you on this point.

I think the title of this thread is a very apt skewer of the annoying and endless "responsible gun owner" threads. It makes a great point: any human invention, any device or technology can and will be misused by a certain number of people and accidents will happen. Sifting through the news to find them in order to make a point about how other people who actually *are* being responsible with said device should lose access to it, is absurd.
 
Police briefing to camera about to start.

Apparently the music was loud, and nobody heard the helicopter coming down. It appeared as if one half of the room simply collapsed. People in the other half of the room escaped without a scratch.

Jim Murphy sounded in absolute shock when interviewed by the BBC, and he's not exactly unaccustomed to speaking to camera.

Rolfe.
 
Jim Murphy reduced me to real tears when the interviewer noted he had blood on his shirt - the way he looked down in surprise and said "it's not mine", after his actions through the night in rescuing people.
 
Yes. A couple of over-excitable nationalists over on Wings were criticising the BBC for giving him publicity, but they were promptly and firmly sat on. He was obviously very shocked when he gave that interview, and as you say it was very moving.

Rolfe.
 
The lunatics at Westboro Baptist church have definitely connected this incident to the proposed Scottish marriage bill. It is
A gentle reminder from god to filthy rebels: obey or perish: God will not have fag marriage.
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Cylinder said:
So, we can politicize the deaths or not?

My outrage-o-meter must be wanky today.
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Pointing out other people being offensive other places is one thing. Being offensive yourself right here is a wee bit different.

Rolfe.
 
Most recent police statement a few moments ago says eight fatalities, it seems. What a disaster this is.
 
All three people in the helicopter - the civilian pilot and two policemen - and five people in the pub. I hope that's the final total. Something like 14 very seriously injured in hospital though. I'm not clear they've actually managed to get the bodies out of the rubble yet - "very challenging circumstances".

PoliceScotland have been tweeting all day to people not to pass on rumours or speculate about fatalities, because it was only upsetting relatives waiting for news. The policeman who has been giving the updates to the TV crews has seemed very upset whenever he spoke. Of course he must have lost colleagues.

That poor man who was interviewed waiting outside. He said he knew his father had been inside, and he hadn't been able to find him including by going round all the hospitals where the injured had been taken.

Rolfe.
 
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14 wounded in hospital as well, so far. It's pretty bad.

ETA: Correction, 32 injured.
 
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It is incredibly bad luck as literally a few feet to one side and it would have landed out side the pub at the large traffic light junction.

This is the third crash, 1990 in flats leaving one dead, 2002 into a field all survived and now this. The one that crashed last night is the liveried one, but the police lease others as well and even have shared a helicopter with Radio Clyde.
 
Regards the OP title and some of the comments. That is life on this forum and I am using the mind over matter technique to dismiss the drivel.
 
I suspect practically anywhere in that immediate vicinity except that one spot, and it would have crashed without involving anyone on the ground. Commercial buildings empty in the late evening, roads, the river, even Glasgow Green. Incredibly bad luck. (I'm a bit sensitive with the 25th anniversary only three weeks away, but it's almost like Lockerbie in miniature.)

I hope the stories I've heard about Anas Sarwar saying something incredibly insensitive about the location of the crash aren't true.

Rolfe.
 
Nessie said:
The flat roof is a feature of many old pubs which were part of tenement buildings. When the tenement flats above the pub were demolished the pub would remain.
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Do you think the roof would have been unusually weak as a result? Though I suppose something like that would probably break through many roofs.

Rolfe.
 
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