[Merged] Immortality & Bayesian Statistics

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Pixel42 said:
Wait, he's serious? He really thinks he can apply for the MDC based on the not-even-wrong mathematical gibberish he's been posting that we all gave up even trying to make any sense of?
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Apparently if you gave up, that means he's correct. Argumentatum outlastum.
 
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Jabba said:
Hi,

- I would like to post a "Million Dollar Challenge."
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If only you had a claim.


Jabba said:
- It seems to me that "toontown" and I are winning our debate -- arguing for the immortality of individual consciousness -- in my thread "Immortality & Bayesian Statistics." Our opponents seem to have "given up"...
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Your opponent is reality. It never gives up.


Jabba said:
- Mostly, I think that we haven't received "your best shot(s)," and I would like you guys to "call out the Mounties." I'd like to get to the mathematical bottom of this idea.
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You have no understanding whatsoever of the MDC, do you?


Jabba said:
- And, if I can post such a challenge, we ought to get your best shot(s) -- and also, to the bottom of this idea.

- Thanks.

--- Jabba
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Bizarre doesn't even begin to cover it.
 
No, Jabba. Just no.

The figures you put into your Bayes equation are estimates with no evidentiary basis, or as some people call them "wild guesses".

You haven't shown any evidence that the complement of "the current scientific model" is your particular idea of several lives or long life - the current scientific model explains a whole lot more than just finite lives. If there is another model which could explain, everything about our universe, you haven't even begun to describe it, or shown any evidence for the existence of this model.

You haven't shown any evidence to lead anyone to suspect that life or consciousness can survive the death of the brain.

Lastly, though I don't speak for the JREF, I very much doubt that a 'proof' of immortality which is simply some guessed numbers put into an equation, the output of which is then fudged so that 'very small' becomes zero, will fly as evidence for the paranormal.

As to people abandoning your thread, sometimes it's just a better use of one's time to stop banging one's head against the same brick wall.
 
abaddon said:
Cos you're like me. Getting older.

First it was birthday parties, then 21sts, then weddings, then births, then deaths. It is the nature of things. Cycle of life.
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If I divide one by infinity at the next funeral will the dead person come back to life?
 
dafydd said:
If I divide one by infinity at the next funeral will the dead person come back to life?
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Absolutely.


Except they won't know it, you won't know it, in fact nobody will know it.

Infinite life, but you forget all but your present one. Prove me wrong. eleventy!!1!!1!

Yes, dafydd, I'm struggling to maintain this position. Strugglin' bad.
 
abaddon said:
Absolutely.


Except they won't know it, you won't know it, in fact nobody will know it.

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So when they are cremated and turned to dust or buried and decomposing, they are unaware that they don't know what they and we don't know because they don't know it it and we don't know it and both parties do not know what the other doesn't know what they don't know? That's worth a million of anybody's money. I suggest that the check be burned and presented to Jabba, after all, it won't really be gone.
 
abaddon said:
Absolutely.


Except they won't know it, you won't know it, in fact nobody will know it.

Infinite life, but you forget all but your present one. Prove me wrong. eleventy!!1!!1!

Yes, dafydd, I'm struggling to maintain this position. Strugglin' bad.
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Looks as if you're struggling pretty well, from here...
 
dafydd said:
So when they are cremated and turned to dust or buried and decomposing, they are unaware that they don't know what they and we don't know because they don't know it it and we don't know it and both parties do not know what the other doesn't know what they don't know? That's worth a million of anybody's money. I suggest that the check be burned and presented to Jabba, after all, it won't really be gone.
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But...infinity!

Stoppit, I cannot maintain this charade.

:D
 
Slowvehicle said:
*SIGH*

It's

" 1 "
~∞

NOT "infinity"...
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Why the false eyebrow and the pair of boobs under the 1? I need a Symbolist. And before you say that it is all in my mind let me remind you that you are the one who posted the dirty symbol. :)
 
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