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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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People may become seriously ill from complications from measles.

So measles has little to do with a measles mortality rate.

So ignoring the obvious flaw in your statement... Please enlighten me to which treatments you think increase the life expecctancy of measels patients. Simply acknowledging that there have been developments in several fields of medicine does not aid your claim. What developments would aid those suffering from the disease in question?

That is, and will remain, the bottom line.
 
the MMR jab and anti measles vaccinnes have been a great help

Yes. But apparently those can't be factored into the answer.

I might almost suspect that ClayMo haas not thought his premise through. It almost seems like he had no idea of medical science had made advances to better treat measels patients when he made his statement. If on the other hand he was making an informed statement it would be very odd if he wasn't able to support it.
 
We now have the potential for a similar positive health effect with the HPV quadrivalent vaccine (Silgard/Gardasil).

Just gonna snip that so I can ask: Does anyone plan to expand that vaccine to the other variants of HPV?

Would be awesome if we could simply eliminate warts worldwide.
 
Yes. But apparently those can't be factored into the answer.

I might almost suspect that ClayMo haas not thought his premise through. It almost seems like he had no idea of medical science had made advances to better treat measels patients when he made his statement. If on the other hand he was making an informed statement it would be very odd if he wasn't able to support it.
This. Clayton hasn't provided any evidence that the mortality rate of measles has fallen since the 50s. He hasn't provided us with a plausible mechanism for such a reduction either. What he has done is to express his disbelief that such a mechanism might not exist.
 
Today's vaccines go far beyond the vaccine concept by essentially using GUNK to manipulate the immune system over and over and over and and over and over and over and over......... The GUNK is within the metabolism processes. No wonder people are getting maladies of "unknown" origin.
 
No they do not clayton this has been gone over and over again in this thread, people have not forgotten you have made this point before and it has been thoroughly trashed and shown to be the ignorance fuelled rubbish it is.
 
No they do not clayton this has been gone over and over again in this thread, people have not forgotten you have made this point before and it has been thoroughly trashed and shown to be the ignorance fuelled rubbish it is.

Please tell the truth.
 
clayton I am telling the truth, you have provided no evidence for any of your claims.
 
Please tell the truth.

Okay: You have failed to substantiate your claims in this thread, or debunk any evidence counter to your claims. You have not shown any decrease of mortality by measels, or any treatments that will have an effect on measels or its complications. You have had far too many oppertunities to address this and dodge in a way that can only reasonably mean you are uninformed or deliberately dishonest. I would appreciate if you would clarify which.
 
Please tell the truth.

Ive been wanting to use this meme for a long time now:

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Seriously, though. The truth is that you have no argument, your claims are so wrong that they are wronger than wrong and would take a lot of effort to be not even wrong, you have a really big ego and seem incapable of addressing even basic questions.

What? I did warn that you can't handle the truth.
 
Ive been wanting to use this meme for a long time now:

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Seriously, though. The truth is that you have no argument, your claims are so wrong that they are wronger than wrong and would take a lot of effort to be not even wrong, you have a really big ego and seem incapable of addressing even basic questions.

What? I did warn that you can't handle the truth.

The truth is that the body has no process to dispel/exit the GUNK/adjuvants. Making the ever increasing use of adjuvants bad science and even worse medicine.

You tell me. How exactly does the body deal with adjuvants?
 
The truth is that the body has no process to dispel/exit the GUNK/adjuvants. Making the ever increasing use of adjuvants bad science and even worse medicine.

You tell me. How exactly does the body deal with adjuvants?

Bound by transferrin and transported through the kidney to urine.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html

since aluminum salts are the only adjuvants in use, and not in all vaccines (they help enhance the immune response so that less attenuated virus/bacteria can be used for the same immune response...it facilitates the immune response)

http://www.chop.edu/export/download/pdfs/articles/vaccine-education-center/aluminum.pdf

and here's a paper from 1997 that talks about transferrin and the binding of aluminum. The context in that work is in dialysis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9208284
 
The truth is that the body has no process to dispel/exit the GUNK/adjuvants. Making the ever increasing use of adjuvants bad science and even worse medicine.

You tell me. How exactly does the body deal with adjuvants?

Bound by transferrin and transported through the kidney to urine.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html

since aluminum salts are the only adjuvants in use, and not in all vaccines (they help enhance the immune response so that less attenuated virus/bacteria can be used for the same immune response...it facilitates the immune response)

http://www.chop.edu/export/download/pdfs/articles/vaccine-education-center/aluminum.pdf

and here's a paper from 1997 that talks about transferrin and the binding of aluminum. The context in that work is in dialysis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9208284

Diogenes, answers like that really make my day.
Thanks!
 
Diogenes, answers like that really make my day.
Thanks!

Of course there is the truth, without profit motivation.

http://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/a-glimpse-into-vaccine-adjuvants/

A Glimpse into the Scary World of Vaccine Adjuvants

By Edda West - Published in VRAN Newsletter - Winter 2005


Adjuvants can break "tolerance", meaning they can disable the immune system to the degree that it loses its ability to distinguish what is "self" from what is foreign. Normally, the immune system ignores the constituents of one's own body. Immunologists call this "tolerance". But if something happens to break "tolerance", then the immune system turns relentlessly self-destructive, attacking the body it is supposed to defend. (6)



To deepen one's understanding of the shadowy world of vaccine development, award winning investigative journalist Gary Matsumoto's new book is a "must read." It documents the secret human medical experimentation conducted on American citizens by doctors and scientists working for the U.S. military. It is a book about "betrayal of the most fundamental rules of medical ethics; and betrayal of the basic duty of military and civilian leaders to protect the people they govern." Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That's Killing our Soldiers and Why GI's are Only the First Victims, is a gripping read into the mad science world of the U.S. military's biowarfare vaccine development program which, since 1987 has injected tens of thousands of U.S. troops with an experimental unlicensed anthrax vaccine containing squalene. An oil based adjuvant, squalene has been known for decades to cause severe autoimmune diseases in laboratory animals. Writes Matsumoto, "The unethical experiments detailed in this book are ongoing, with little prospect of being self-limiting because they have been shielded from scrutiny and public accountability by national security concerns." Reading this book, one gets a permanent chill in the spine as we glimpse the "writing on the wall" of what is to come. (6,7).......................................................................................................................................................................................................
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Long List of Side Effects Referring to squalene in her extensive article on adjuvants, Dr. Scheibner writes, "This adjuvant contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War syndrome", documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War. The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis) also known as Lou Gehrig's disease, Raynaud's phenomenon, Sjorgren's syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers. (1)

From their inception, mass vaccinations have acted as a biological weapon, undermining health, manipulating and crippling the immune system, and instigating cycles of new and debilitating diseases. Monopoly medicine's solution? Inject us with more powerful, genetically engineered high potency vaccines. Never mind they are seeding us with "nano-bombs" that will further attack our already compromised immune systems.

The concept of stimulating a hyperactive immune response by using oil-based adjuvants has clearly backfired since we now know that the stronger the antigenic response, the more damaging the adjuvant itself is to the normal functioning of the brain and nervous system. The precedent for mass medical experimentation via an ever increasing recommended vaccine schedule has been set. We can now predict the grim future of mankind: an epidemic of neurological disorders and autoimmune diseases never before imagined. ent - this despite the fact that the FDA and independent researchers have tested and identified varying amounts of squalene in specific lots of the vaccine.
 
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