Continuation Part Six: Discussion of the Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito case

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CoulsdonUK said:
Who is Maidson Paxton, don’t recall her name coming up in this case?
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She is Amanda's friend, the one who moved to Italy so that Amanda would always have a visitor when family could not be there. If I remember correctly she also gave character testimony at the Massei trial. She was part of the Seattle group of friends who couldn't believe the prosecution's sluttified description of Amanda...

Rather than the Foxy Knoxy vixen manipulator of men, Paxton knew Knox to be a little bit of a "dork" who wore mismatched socks and would go out of her way to help people on the street. While not at all expecting Knox to be accused of murder, Paxton stated that the worst she ever thought the Italian sojourn would result in was Knox having her heart broken because of her inexperience in relationships.

Paxton is one of the heroes of this story, in my estimation. I'm not sure there is a better story of friendship and loyalty. If I had a friend like either Paxton, or for that matter Raffaele Sollecito, I would consider myself the luckiest man on the planet. Raffaele Sollecito simply would not lie, and risked 25 years in the slammer for it. Paxton dropped everything so that a friend would not suffer alone in prison in a foreign country.

I guess it's one thing for the guilters to slag Raffaele as "knife boy". I cannot remember the worst of it, but the guilters also cut into Madison Paxton as some sort of deviant. IIRC correctly, she was the first one to point out that "Foxy Knoxy" was an invention of old men with dirty minds; a sluttified image of a woman who in reality wore mismatched socks...

She was right.
 
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CoulsdonUK said:
Who is Maidson Paxton, don’t recall her name coming up in this case?
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Sergei Walankov said:
A close and loyal friend of Amanda's of long standing, who nonetheless doesn't understand her nearly as well as the likes of Machiavelli.
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LOL! Machiavelli used theatre training at court to judge, from afar, that Knox was a liar. No one who ever knew Amanda Knox described her that way.
 
Is there a feature on JREF that lists every place someone has posted
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Yes. Click on your name, then "Statistics", then "Find all posts by Grinder". Calling him "stalker" and "creepy" is most unworthy.
 
CoulsdonUK said:
Who is Maidson Paxton, don’t recall her name coming up in this case?
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Amanda's and her very loyal best friend Madison Paxton.

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Sergei Walankov said:
Yes. Click on your name, then "Statistics", then "Find all posts by Grinder". Calling him "stalker" and "creepy" is most unworthy.
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(If) you are correct and I withdraw the remarks as said. I still think checking and reporting it on the board is a little strange.

ETA - I took your word but when I checked, I didn't find a statistic that listed the number posts I had on each thread. Yes, all posts all listed but that would require going through all 3935 posts page by page. If I'm not seeing the listing please provide me step by step instructions.
 
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Bill Williams said:
What Grinder doesn't know is that I'm collecting his posts and taking them to Gogerty-Marriott as proof that my impact warrants a raise in pay. Grinder seems to think so, anyway, the real test is if David Marriott thinks so as well......
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LondonJohn said:
At least you GET paid. Marriott keeps mumbling something about "trans-Atlantic money transfers" as some sort of excuse as to why my monthly stipend doesn't turn up...

PS: I note with interest a very recent photo on FB of Amanda Knox holding up a "Welcome home" sign of support for Ryan Ferguson. I note that Madison Paxton is standing next to Knox. I note that both women are smiling and appear happy. I cannot understand this, since I was "reliably" informed by a number of pro-guilt commentators that Madison Paxton had totally separated herself from Knox, and had no desire to associate with her any longer. Someone help me out here - I simply don't understand! :rolleyes:
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MadPax (as we call her here in the Marriott office) is actually an actress who's had bit parts in Chicago Hope... she played one of the young children in a lifeboat scene in "Titanic". I think she also was in the 3rd class cabin when Jennifer Goldstein's character said that little bit about "the land of nod." You may remember Jennifer Goldstein in Aliens as Pvt. Vasquez.

MadPax was unable to make the transition from child prodigy to full fledged actress, so got this gig from Marriott to be Amanda's fake friend. The business about "having no desire to associate with her" was a cover story that Marriott clumsily put out there because Paxton was auditioning for a role as a juggler in a London production, and if she'd got the role there'd have to be an explanation for her disappearance.

She didn't get it - apparently one has to actually know how to juggle to be a juggler in live theatre. Paxton thought they could do something with CGI.... ha!. So they rushed her back into service as the fake friend because, well, she needed the money....
 
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CoulsdonUK said:
So she has no relevance whatsoever to the case, ok thanks.
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She wasn't there at the time of the murder. But she has been there by her friend's side every step of the way. She's been vilified by the PGP and hasn't flinched. As Bill said, we would be lucky to have such a friend.
 
CoulsdonUK said:
So she has no relevance whatsoever to the case, ok thanks.
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Well she wasn't in Perugia when the murder occurred if that's you mean.

She had as much to do with this case in reality as Curatolo, Quintavalle, Nara and Antonella Monacchia - :p

It is a pity that she wasn't there because she could have remembered a year later that she saw them together in Raf's apartment at 10:30 when she was out to get a kebob.

The fine folk at the schadenfreude sites had a fine time ridiculing her for her loyalty and looks.
 
Grinder said:
Well she wasn't in Perugia when the murder occurred if that's you mean.

She had as much to do with this case in reality as Curatolo, Quintavalle, Nara and Antonella Monacchia - :p

It is a pity that she wasn't there because she could have remembered a year later that she saw them together in Raf's apartment at 10:30 when she was out to get a kebob.

The fine folk at the schadenfreude sites had a fine time ridiculing her for her loyalty and looks.
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IIRC, some pro-guilt morons commentators decided she was a lesbian, and used this as a disparaging factor against her.

I hope I needn't add that this tells us a whole lot more about the mindsets (and sexuality viewpoints) of those who made the "accusations" than it tells us about Madison Paxton, Amanda Knox or anybody else.....
 
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MadPax (as we call her here in the Marriott office) is actually an actress who's had bit parts in Chicago Hope... she played one of the young children in a lifeboat scene in "Titanic". I think she also was in the 3rd class cabin when Jennifer Goldstein's character said that little bit about "the land of nod." You may remember Jennifer Goldstein in Aliens as Pvt. Vasquez.

MadPax was unable to make the transition from child prodigy to full fledged actress, so got this gig from Marriott to be Amanda's fake friend. The business about "having no desire to associate with her" was a cover story that Marriott clumsily put out there because Paxton was auditioning for a role as a juggler in a London production, and if she'd got the role there'd have to be an explanation for her disappearance.

She didn't get it - apparently one has to actually know how to juggle to be a juggler in live theatre. Paxton thought they could do something with CGI.... ha!. So they rushed her back into service as the fake friend because, well, she needed the money....
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I actually lined up that West End juggling gig for her: the production in question was going to be a lavish musical based on the (fictional) story of a Covent Garden street entertainer who discovers Jainism and moves to India, but ends up convicted of a number of credit card fraud offences in the Republic of Macedonia. Madison was to play the protagonist's best friend from his street-entertainment days, who refuses to follow him to pursue his life as a Jain in India because she likes the taste of bacon too much.

Marriott actually put a significant amount of financial backing into the project as well. Unfortunately, the whole thing fell through even before opening night, owing partly to record-breakingly-poor ticket presales, and partly to creative differences among the production staff that resulted in several hospitalisations and a pending police investigation.
 
Bill Williams said:
Not exactly. She gave character evidence, which was unimpeached. If she had no relevance, why was she called?
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CoulsdonUK said:
Confused of Coulsdon here; because she would speak of her friends good character, just a guess.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here. You wondered if she had anything relative to say about the case. Central to the case the prosecution advanced was Amanda's character. Paxton provided character evidence.

Is it not confirmation bias to dismiss it solely on the grounds she testified to Amanda's good character? Does it not mean something that every person who'd ever met Knox prior to her Perugian trip testified (formally or otherwise) to the same thing?

But the question simply was, what was her relation to the case... the answer is given. Otherwise she's just a stellar friend .... and if one can be known by the company they keep, Knox is innocent on that alone.

The proof for me, early on as I was vacillating back and forth was that guilters cut into Madison Paxton as some sort of deviant, yet another anonymous person who they'd never met.
 
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Grinder said:
Well she wasn't in Perugia when the murder occurred if that's you mean.

She had as much to do with this case in reality as Curatolo, Quintavalle, Nara and Antonella Monacchia - :p

It is a pity that she wasn't there because she could have remembered a year later that she saw them together in Raf's apartment at 10:30 when she was out to get a kebob.

The fine folk at the schadenfreude sites had a fine time ridiculing her for her loyalty and looks.
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Oh ok; I didn’t recall seeing the name and my curiosity got the better of me; seems that folks on the discussion sites either side of this case just love vilifying each other, yeah I know they started it etc etc. :rolleyes:
 
CoulsdonUK said:
Oh ok; I didn’t recall seeing the name and my curiosity got the better of me; seems that folks on the discussion sites either side of this case just love vilifying each other, yeah I know they started it etc etc. :rolleyes:
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The point was that the guilt sites trashed Madison Paxton for no other reason than that she befriended (remarkably so) Knox. Out of all the things some third party could claim is a - we say, they say thing, this is not one of them.

Sheesh.
 
Bill Williams said:
The proof for me, early on as I was vacillating back and forth was that guilters cut into Madison Paxton as some sort of deviant, yet another anonymous person who they'd never met.
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For me Bill, it was the fact that Madison put her own life on hold and moved half way around the world to live in a country where she didn't speak the language to live in a small place and visit Amanda every day in prison. Talk about loyalty!!!

You have to admire the hell out of the Madison. It tells me that Amanda must be a special person to create a friendship that strong.
 
LondonJohn said:
I actually lined up that West End juggling gig for her: the production in question was going to be a lavish musical based on the (fictional) story of a Covent Garden street entertainer who discovers Jainism and moves to India, but ends up convicted of a number of credit card fraud offences in the Republic of Macedonia. Madison was to play the protagonist's best friend from his street-entertainment days, who refuses to follow him to pursue his life as a Jain in India because she likes the taste of bacon too much.

Marriott actually put a significant amount of financial backing into the project as well. Unfortunately, the whole thing fell through even before opening night, owing partly to record-breakingly-poor ticket presales, and partly to creative differences among the production staff that resulted in several hospitalisations and a pending police investigation.
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London John.... for pity's sake, next time you hire a juggler, make sure she can actually.... you know!!!

You bear a remarkable resemblance to the general manager of a Canadian Football League team who once drafted a player, only to discover that this player had been deceased for two years!

No wonder Marriott doesn't pay you!!!
 
Bill Williams said:
London John.... for pity's sake, next time you hire a juggler, make sure she can actually.... you know!!!

You bear a remarkable resemblance to the general manager of a Canadian Football League team who once drafted a player, only to discover that this player had been deceased for two years!

No wonder Marriott doesn't pay you!!!
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To be fair, though, the early drafts of the script that I saw didn't require much juggling skill from that character at all - I reasoned that even Madison could handle the quick three-sponge-balls juggle that was scripted to take place in the middle of her harrowing discussion with the protagonist about his strict adherence to the rules laid out in the Tirthankara of Jainism.....

As it turned out, by the time Madison had arrived to audition, the script had changed such that her character was now required to perform an entire solo singing number - "Heaven is a Place on Earth" by Belinda Carlisle - while riding a unicycle and juggling five flaming torches. As you can imagine, I felt like a total mug putting her forward for the role under these changed circumstances, but she already had a non-refundable airline ticket and confirmed reservations at the Earls Court Premier Inn, so we decided it was worth a shot anyhow.

So I don't think that Marriott can justly feel aggrieved at my actions in regard to Madison's audition, under the circumstances. On the other hand, it was I who persuaded Marriott to sink $400,000 of his own money into the project - so maybe he's decided to recoup this total loss through withholding my wages......
 
LondonJohn said:
IIRC, some pro-guilt morons commentators decided she was a lesbian, and used this as a disparaging factor against her.

I hope I needn't add that this tells us a whole lot more about the mindsets (and sexuality viewpoints) of those who made the "accusations" than it tells us about Madison Paxton, Amanda Knox or anybody else.....
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#1: "It was my mother. She's the one who made me a lesbian."

#2: "If I gave her the yarn, would she make me one, too?"
 
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