Merged Newtown (Sandy Hook) Shooting Conspiracy Theories In 3..2..1....

Sedensky has argued that releasing the 911 tapes could jeopardize the police investigation, subject witnesses to harassment from conspiracy theorists and violate survivors from the school who deserve special protection as victims of child abuse.
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Hitting a little close to home, there, CM?
 
usual clayton approach some kooks on the internet have to be more credible than the known facts.
 
I don't get it. There is supposedly some Rogue Shadow Government that's tentacles reach down to where it stages a fake shooting to... do something. I don't even see what came out of it. That same government has no proof of existence in this day and age of Wikileaks, Anonymous, and Snowden. It is somehow afraid of folks taking pictures of a site because those pictures will somehow show the whole thing is staged, and yet at the same time is capable of a massive staging that has a whole town and folks in the area in on it. And this shadow government can't even seem to control the actual government and get it to work.

What a gigantic crock of doo-doo. Stop wasting yourselves and everyone's time, CM. You can't keep showing up to the archery contest with no arrows, and expect to hit a bullseye. Go back and get some arrows.
 
LSSBB said:
I don't get it. There is supposedly some Rogue Shadow Government that's tentacles reach down to where it stages a fake shooting to... do something. I don't even see what came out of it. That same government has no proof of existence in this day and age of Wikileaks, Anonymous, and Snowden. It is somehow afraid of folks taking pictures of a site because those pictures will somehow show the whole thing is staged, and yet at the same time is capable of a massive staging that has a whole town and folks in the area in on it. And this shadow government can't even seem to control the actual government and get it to work.

What a gigantic crock of doo-doo. Stop wasting yourselves and everyone's time, CM. You can't keep showing up to the archery contest with no arrows, and expect to hit a bullseye. Go back and get some arrows.
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It can't even stop someone exposing it on an Internet Forum.
 
A frontal attack directed at the Super-Friends

I'll lick all of you, and stare deeply at your tootsie-punk center! Why do you continue to exist only as super-friends, with super-similar mindsets?

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LSSBB - "...in this day and age of Wikileaks, Anonymous, and Snowden."
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You seem to have evidenced that a shadow government doesn't exist by listing operations which are themselves tentacles of a shadow government.

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Dcdrac - "...some kooks on the internet have to be more credible than the known facts."
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You seem to have expressed that claims made by Netizens are dubious, while being a Netizen yourself. Then, you seem to have insinuated that official accounts of the events in question are known facts when they are mostly hearsay.

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LSSBB - "What, like a speed limit sign is?"
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In your attempt to frame CM's claim of the vice-like secrecy over the school demolition being a warning as overblown, you equate it to speed limit signs. Speed limit signs are not warnings. They are orders that, if not obeyed can result in death. So, I agree with your analogy.

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Brass - "...why allow the news about contractors not being able to take pictures slip out in the media?"
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Because they aren't concerned with what becomes known. It poses little threat because they know their obedient slaves like you will always shun anyone sharing the info and help identify the awakened ones who could actually do something to stop them.

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Garrison - "...looking for some bloodstained concrete as a souvenir."
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Brilliant false portrayal of the concerned and justice-seeking group as crime-scene fetishists. Of course, I know you don't really think CM and most others are involved in this for personal gain. Their warrior-like interest in protecting others is the VERY reason you actively oppose them.

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Garrison - "...anyone with a shred of empathy for the victims and their families..."
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Personally, I empathize with people not connected to the event but having had it thrust upon them in what is nothing less than an attack on the psyche. You're aware that your argument is baseless to those who suspect their are no shooting victims?

Garrison - "...ghouls selling 'souvenirs' on E-Bay..."
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Once again with the portrayal as self-interested. Do you really imagine there's a demand for pieces of bloody school desks or what have you? I wouldn't settle for anything less than A. Lanza's skull! If such a thing existed.

Garrison - "...the recording will be released."
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I strongly doubt it will. But, just as with the J. Loughner mugshot photo-shop fabrication and the J. Holmes notebook that never existed I'm sure the authorities could cook something up if they felt like it. They're criminals, you know.
 
What an interesting shotgun spread of... stuff.

skepticidal said:
I'll lick all of you, and stare deeply at your tootsie-punk center! Why do you continue to exist only as super-friends, with super-similar mindsets?
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I never did like Super Friends. Didn't that have the Wonder Twins, where one would turn into a thirsty camel and the other into a puddle of water?

skepticidal said:
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You seem to have evidenced that a shadow government doesn't exist by listing operations which are themselves tentacles of a shadow government.
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You seem to have evidenced that a shadow government does exist by just saying so.

skepticidal said:
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In your attempt to frame CM's claim of the vice-like secrecy over the school demolition being a warning as overblown, you equate it to speed limit signs. Speed limit signs are not warnings. They are orders that, if not obeyed can result in death. So, I agree with your analogy.
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Are you saying that if I go 5 over, I'm doomed?

As for the rest, more just sayin' stuff on your part. Come back with facts next time, your 'expert' opinion doesn't count as evidence of a conspiracy.
 
skepticidal said:
I'll lick all of you, and stare deeply at your tootsie-punk center! Why do you continue to exist only as super-friends, with super-similar mindsets?
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I was always more of a Marvel fan than DC.

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You seem to have evidenced that a shadow government doesn't exist by listing operations which are themselves tentacles of a shadow government.
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So, in your opinion the "shadow government" rats itself out?

Or is it your opinion that such an organization exposes the problems and difficulties of what people percieve as the "defacto government" in order to further their agenda of using said "defacto government" to rule the masses?

Essentially, your bullet makes no sense in relation to what you seem to be saying.

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You seem to have expressed that claims made by Netizens are dubious, while being a Netizen yourself. Then, you seem to have insinuated that official accounts of the events in question are known facts when they are mostly hearsay.
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No, he's asking why CM's belief that something nefarious is going on should trump the facts as known.

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In your attempt to frame CM's claim of the vice-like secrecy over the school demolition being a warning as overblown, you equate it to speed limit signs. Speed limit signs are not warnings. They are orders that, if not obeyed can result in death. So, I agree with your analogy.
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Not sure what jurisdiction you live in but speed limit signs aren't death penalty material in any country I am even somewhat aware of.



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Because they aren't concerned with what becomes known. It poses little threat because they know their obedient slaves like you will always shun anyone sharing the info and help identify the awakened ones who could actually do something to stop them.
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So, the "shadow government" wants to supress the true knowledge of certain events, but if it gets out, "Meh, the slaves won't belive it anyway."? Are you familiar with the expression "having your cake and eating it too"? Your position makes little to no sense, especially in the context of events.

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Brilliant false portrayal of the concerned and justice-seeking group as crime-scene fetishists. Of course, I know you don't really think CM and most others are involved in this for personal gain. Their warrior-like interest in protecting others is the VERY reason you actively oppose them.
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So to protect others, they need to confront grieving parents and tell them that they should stop pretending their kids are dead? Many of the people expressing a "warrior-like interest in protecting others" do nothing except call the victims of horrific events liars and actors - how is this protecting others? If the "shadow government" can't go to the "Victim Simulation Talent Agency" for their actors, now unwilling to work due to exposure these events won't happen?

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Personally, I empathize with people not connected to the event but having had it thrust upon them in what is nothing less than an attack on the psyche. You're aware that your argument is baseless to those who suspect their are no shooting victims?
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And we should indulge the emotionally bankrupt willing to harm victims of crime?

Once again with the portrayal as self-interested. Do you really imagine there's a demand for pieces of bloody school desks or what have you? I wouldn't settle for anything less than A. Lanza's skull! If such a thing existed.
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Given the market that used to exist for locks of the condemned's hair (and other souveniers) at public hangings in North America and the UK, the number of people that go to places like Lizzy Borden's house, and the Jack the Ripper sights, yes, I think that there would be such a market. And I don't think we need to support it.
 
LSSBB said:
You seem to have evidenced that a shadow government does exist by just saying so.
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There is indeed a shadow government (SG).
This SG does possess secret knowledge. The first aspect of this special knowledge, which makes it efficiently secret, is that the SG not only know that the mythologies are mythologies, but also know that they themselves create and use those mythologies to manipulate the credulous masses. They know Sandy Hook is a Shady Hoax.

Beyond that first broad level of division between the knowledgeable and the credulous, the secret knowledge is distinguished by the division of rulers into two irreconcilable factions. Beyond the sheep-pens of the believers in myths like terrorism, there exist two fundamentally opposed views of which way to steer history.

One elite, the humanists, the Platonic or Neoplatonic faction, is dedicated to steering the course of history away from rule through so-called "noble myths." The other, the Aristotelians and their heirs, is committed to strengthening the rule by staging events that seem pivotal and focusing media attention on those events, for the purpose of establishing a permanent, "feudal-like" Utopia of obedient, simple-minded folk ruled by a tenured neo-Aristotelian oligarchy.

But, I take it you want me to provide you with proof that even you can't refute? I would provide that only to those asking and aware of their ignorance, as I am. I'm certain that many of the most active members here are far from ready to learn anything significant that isn't approved material.
 
skepticidal said:
There is indeed a shadow government (SG).
This SG does possess secret knowledge. The first aspect of this special knowledge, which makes it efficiently secret, is that the SG not only know that the mythologies are mythologies, but also know that they themselves create and use those mythologies to manipulate the credulous masses. They know Sandy Hook is a Shady Hoax.

Beyond that first broad level of division between the knowledgeable and the credulous, the secret knowledge is distinguished by the division of rulers into two irreconcilable factions. Beyond the sheep-pens of the believers in myths like terrorism, there exist two fundamentally opposed views of which way to steer history.

One elite, the humanists, the Platonic or Neoplatonic faction, is dedicated to steering the course of history away from rule through so-called "noble myths." The other, the Aristotelians and their heirs, is committed to strengthening the rule by staging events that seem pivotal and focusing media attention on those events, for the purpose of establishing a permanent, "feudal-like" Utopia of obedient, simple-minded folk ruled by a tenured neo-Aristotelian oligarchy.

But, I take it you want me to provide you with proof that even you can't refute? I would provide that only to those asking and aware of their ignorance, as I am. I'm certain that many of the most active members here are far from ready to learn anything significant that isn't approved material.
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So... you believe in a shadow government that has no problems killing and/or covering up the killing of schoolchildren. Then you get on the internet and call them out on it. Good move (not).

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