Ed Madeleine McCann Mystery

IamFreeCanIGo said:
Lol. Coming from the guy who flat out refuses to read any of the case files when presented to him. I think i have proven you wrong with sources a few times in the last few pages and you have the gall to say i don't look at evidence.
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But as we have seen what you think has precious little to do with facts, all you've proven is that you have a pet theory based on a cherry-picked fraction of the total evidence and you will not be budged from it.
 
Also i find it quite humorous that the MET are using this new witness testimony and sort of undermining the PJ for not using it. Here is an excerpt from the official PJ police summary

'Further on this issue, the testimony of MARTIN SMITH was considered, pages 1606 and following, reporting the sighting of an individual carrying a child, in one of the streets that lead to the beach. It was said that the child could be MADELEINE McCANN, although it was never peremptorily stated. Some time later, the witness alleged that, by its stance, the individual who carried the child could be GERALD McCANN, which was concluded when he saw him descending the stairs from an airplane, pages 2871, 3991
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Then a translation from Amarals book.

It cannot be that way, because nobody knows for sure at what time the things happened. The reconstruction was not made, therefore it is impossible to know for certain. The employees do not state that Gerry McCann was in the restaurant. They only say that people were sitting down and getting up from the table. Their testimony [Smith] is very credible. The way that the person walked, the clumsy manner in which the child was held. It is nothing that sounds invented. Is it evidence? Certainly not. It is information that has to be worked further.'
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You need to understand it was the insistance of jane tanner that she had seen the abductor at 9:15 and the british media ignoring of the Smith testimony because it implicated the McCanns that makes you think all the evidence wasnt examined.

As stated earlier, the PJ went along with investigating a abduction and did their due diligence, however they suspected it was the McCanns

from the book

All possibilities were on the table. The abduction theory was good for the investigation, according to Mr Amaral because it allowed more means, manpower and tools to work with. It wasn't in the best interest of the investigation that the parents and friends were aware that they could be possible suspects. 12 hours after the disappearance a diplomat arrives in Portimao. He was not happy and he was heard to say that the PJ 'wasn't doing anything'.
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Garrison said:
But as we have seen what you think has precious little to do with facts, all you've proven is that you have a pet theory based on a cherry-picked fraction of the total evidence and you will not be budged from it.
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I assume you still have not read the official statements from the Tapas 9 then? Lol.
 
Azrael 5 said:
Read today that the PJ looked at the witness report(the new one Met Police have put out) 6 years ago! Also the Smith family(who reported sighting)were convinced the figure was Gerry McCann.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwscrIZug60
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So much for the incompetence of the Portuguese police.
Here's a chilling police communication
UK police communication re: Martin Smith's sighting, 20 September 2007

Processos Vol XIII
Pages 3996 – 3997 (in English)

Email from John Hughes to DIC Portimao, C.C. to Stuart Prior

20th September 2007

Subject: Fwd Smith family

From Lindsay Long to John Hughes

20th September 2007

Re – Smith family

Location : Portugal Out of Force Area

Origin: Mr Martin Smith Ireland.

Text: Reported that he had passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th May and returned to UK. Is saying that after seeing the McCanns on the news on 9th Sept when they returned to UK he has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 PM news on BBC and saw the McCanns getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal. He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the male seen the night Maddie went missing . He also watched ITV news and Sky news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children.

Is asking a member of OP task ring him back. He was with group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite worried and shaken whilst speaking to me.
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Just what are the Met saying with this new direction to the investigation?
 
Also, according to the case files. The Kids stayed in the Creche until 5:30. They were put to bed at 7:30.

Parents went off drinking for and didn't return or check on kids for over an hour. I checked the official report. On may 1st, maddie was heard crying from 10:00pm until the mccanns got back at 11:15pm.

Sure seems like Neglect to me.
 
lionking said:
So? What should happen to the McCanns now?
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Stop giving them constant press coverage. Stop letting them get mass donations from constant media attention. Stop treating them like victims. Any time they want to appear on television, interviewers should ask them the questions that need to be answered. Not just give her a platform to get pitty and donations.

Lets be honest most people who read the tabloids get their opinions from the tabloids, so i want the tabloids to point out that they are guilty of neglect. Point out that they often left their kids alone at night while they went off drinking, point out their selfishness is the reason why her daughter is missing.

Why should these people who are so obviously neglectful get treated like martyrs and have no one question them, have one sided friendly interviews and receive so much media attention?
 
They're receiving media attention because their child is still missing. Media coverage is kind of important in such cases - I expect Ben Needham's mother, to quote one example, would kill for the coverage the McCanns are getting.
 
Strawberry said:
They're receiving media attention because their child is still missing. Media coverage is kind of important in such cases - I expect Ben Needham's mother, to quote one example, would kill for the coverage the McCanns are getting.
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I imagine lots of people would kill for the coverage but they don't get it, that's the problem, why 6 years later are we still seeing this child neglecting parents on the news?

Probably because the sue anyone who questions them in anyway they don't like.
 
Probably because she was abducted on vacation.

If you go to webslueths you'll see similar conversations about other children. This gets international attention because of the countries involved.
 
Americans would think the parents were neglectful; Europeans mostly do not.

Doesn't matter, it's a non-issue. The issue is a missing child. The parents have been ruled out as suspects by the police.

Just to throw this out there, people do things on vacation that they wouldn't do at home. Crime is one of them. Time-lines are not that important as it only takes a few seconds to vanish with a child. History shows this again and again.
 
IamFreeCanIGo said:
I imagine lots of people would kill for the coverage but they don't get it, that's the problem, why 6 years later are we still seeing this child neglecting parents on the news?

Probably because the sue anyone who questions them in anyway they don't like.
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Great. I couldn't care less why they are getting the media coverage that all missing children should get, I'm just glad that they are. Hopefully it will help bring some answers.
 
Here is something interesting I was reminded off, I'm just watching the documentary "The truth of the lie" with English subtitles, which the mccanns had banned in the uk, but which was overturned by the high court.

The two dogs investigated lots of different apartments, other places like murats house, however out of all the places they visited they only signalled for cadaver or blood in the following


wardrobe in maddys room
behing the sofa in mccanns apartment
in hire car rented 23 days after maddies abduction by the mccanns
on kates clothes and on maddies toy.

Strange how its only maddies and the mccanns stuff that these dogs react too.

Interestingly both dogs triggered at the sofa, its strange that one would pick up blood and one would pick up a cadaver in the exact same place in the mccanns apartment
 
Are dogs ever influenced by their handlers? And if so, do we know how the dogs handlers behaved around the places where they alerted - was it the same as in the other apartments and houses, or did it differ when they were in the McCanns' apartment and car?

Video footage of the dogs would be particularly good, if such a thing is available.
 
Strawberry said:
Are dogs ever influenced by their handlers? And if so, do we know how the dogs handlers behaved around the places where they alerted - was it the same as in the other apartments and houses, or did it differ when they were in the McCanns' apartment and car?

Video footage of the dogs would be particularly good, if such a thing is available.
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Yea there is video footage of the dogs independently making their way sniffing to the area without their british handler and barking to signal the cadaver or blood. Their handler does not have them on a lead etc, you can see them single in on the same spot behind the soft and bark
 
IamFreeCanIGo said:
Yea there is video footage of the dogs independently making their way sniffing to the area without their british handler and barking to signal the cadaver or blood. Their handler does not have them on a lead etc, you can see them single in on the same spot behind the soft and bark
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And you expect me to take your word for this? Lol. Where do I find this video footage so I can see for myself?
 
You could try going to youtube and typing eddie keela McCann and clicking on one of the numerous videos that come up?
 
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