New Disclosures on Benghazi

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16.5 said:
Pickering testified in public. I am certain I do not understand where you are getting your facts.
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I told you. We've been over all this in this thread already.

Again, how do things in your list lead to the "inescapable conclusion" that the ARB was not independent. Connect Kerry's overturning of the punishment of those State officials to the ARB's lack of independence, please, and address how the other items on your list lead to that "inescapable conclusion".
 
ANTPogo said:
Again, how do things in your list lead to the "inescapable conclusion" that the ARB was not independent. Connect Kerry's overturning of the punishment of those State officials to the ARB's lack of independence, please, and address how the other items on your list lead to that "inescapable conclusion".
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I believe I have more than adequately explained my position. In particular I have, simply by way of example, pointed out that Kerry's action in rescinding the punishment for the scapegoats is indicative of the complete failure of the ARB investigation, which can be laid directly at the feet of Secretary Clinton who picked them collaborated with them, commented on the draft and provided “very specific tasking from Secretary Clinton on her expectations with respect to this board” and that nobody on the board had any input on the scope of their work..

I have also previously linked a detailed article outlining the conflicts of interest in detail.

I believe your response was to cite an unrelated article and characterize the entire article as "giggle worthy."

I understand that it is your opinion that you believe the ARB report was not a complete whitewash. I disagree.

Thanks for posting.
 
One of the tragedies of the Government Slow Down is that it has derailed (temporarily we hope!) the vital investigation into the Benghazi Terror Attack.

Lets get back to work!

In the meantime, I came across a so called fact check from ABC. It claims:

"The second phase of the attack on the compounds annex, which killed Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, had the five Diplomatic Security agents, as well as its own security personnel including Woods and Doherty, and was later joined by an additional seven-person response team from Tripoli."

As avid readers of this thread know, Glen Doherty was part of the seven man team that Hicks put together in Libya.

Fact Check Heal Thyself!

despite the government shut down, 16.5 remains on the job, on that you have my word.
 
DDWW said:
How's the hunt for the real killers going?
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As I suggested above, it is not going well. It appears that the State Department's decision not to activate FEST put us in a deep hole, and the Administration's baffling ability to insult the Libyans did not help.

I understand that the FBI has completely pulled out of Benghazi. I also understand that there were "special forces" in Benghazi, but that some of their equipment was stolen and they to have pulled out.

Lets get back to work!
 
No doubt many of you have wondered whether the recent capture of a high-profile target in Tripoli had any connection to the Benghazi Terror Attack. As best I can determine, "Despite his presence in Libya, Abu Anas was not believed to have played any role in the 2012 attack on the United States diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, senior officials briefed on that investigation have said, but he may have sought to build networks connecting what remains of the Qaeda organization to like-minded militants in Libya."

From the New York Times.

Notably, leading suspects for the Benghazi attack associated with the Ansar Al-Sharia gang have been living openly in Benghazi.

Will these US attacks drive them to ground? You know that this thread will have that information when it becomes public.
 
This thread reminds me of the conspiracy theorist method regarding the 9/11 attacks. It seems like a significant factor is argument from incredulity. It seems silly to the benghazi proponents that there wasn't some deep conspiracy behind it all, therefore there's a coverup somewhere. And years and years later, pareodilia connect-the-dots continues.

16.5, I admire your veracity in this, but I think your efforts would be far more fruitful elsewhere.
 
Mister Earl said:
This thread reminds me of the conspiracy theorist method regarding the 9/11 attacks. It seems like a significant factor is argument from incredulity. It seems silly to the benghazi proponents that there wasn't some deep conspiracy behind it all, therefore there's a coverup somewhere. And years and years later, pareodilia connect-the-dots continues.

16.5, I admire your veracity in this, but I think your efforts would be far more fruitful elsewhere.
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You mean tenacity, not veracity. Veracity, in fact, has been the problem.
 
Mister Earl said:
It seems like a significant factor is argument from incredulity. It seems silly to the benghazi proponents that there wasn't some deep conspiracy behind it all, therefore there's a coverup somewhere. And years and years later, pareodilia connect-the-dots continues.
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^ This.
 
Mister Earl said:
This thread reminds me of the conspiracy theorist method regarding the 9/11 attacks. It seems like a significant factor is argument from incredulity. It seems silly to the benghazi proponents that there wasn't some deep conspiracy behind it all, therefore there's a coverup somewhere. And years and years later, pareodilia connect-the-dots continues.

16.5, I admire your veracity in this, but I think your efforts would be far more fruitful elsewhere.
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Sometimes it reminds me of that too, particularly when my copious citations to readily accessible media sources are met with partisan woo cites.

Further, here we have what is akin to the 911 Commission/NIST investigations going on, and the partisan horde is absolutely livid about it. At least the truthers claimed they wanted an investigation.

The Stoppers just want everybody to forget about it.

Avid readers of this thread will no doubt note that I respectfully disagree.
 
Robrob said:
^ This.
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Yeah, but when we get responses to articles referring to the on going investigation as "giggle worthy," it is hard to even call that an argument.

Sure there are DOZENS of sites from the partisan right one could cite to, but I have resisted doing so.

That is why I cite today's New York Times, just by way of example. I think avid readers of the thread deserve it.

Maybe the Stoppers can whip up a thread on CT Forum. I'll just focus on developments.
 
Mister Earl said:
This thread reminds me of the conspiracy theorist method regarding the 9/11 attacks. It seems like a significant factor is argument from incredulity. It seems silly to the benghazi proponents that there wasn't some deep conspiracy behind it all, therefore there's a coverup somewhere. And years and years later, pareodilia connect-the-dots continues.
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ANTPogo said:
There is no investigation.
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Case in point....
 
ANTPogo said:
Yes, Issa's farcical political theater is indeed the perfect case in point for the kind of thing Mister Earl is talking about.

It's too bad Issa's nonsense has gotten in the way of a real investigation.
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You mean like the one in the Senate?

Oh wait....

Great series of posts, folks. Now lets get back to DEVELOPMENTS!
 
elbe said:
Developments?
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Soon they'll find thermite dust at the embassy, thus proving conclusively that no planes crashed into it, and therefore Hillary bad.

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Developing...
 
16.5 said:
Great series of posts, folks. Now lets get back to DEVELOPMENTS!
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Whatever happened with the claim of 400 Stinger missiles at the CIA annex, or the claims being peddled by the anonymous "whistleblowers" purportedly being represented by crackpot hyperpartisan lawyers Victoria Toesing and Joe diGenova? Or the claims that Petraeus' scandal-ridden resignation was the result of the Obama Administration blackmailing him to participate in the Benghazi cover up?

Any news on those "developments"?
 
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