Harrit sues paper for defamation

(And everything that Harrit wanted to say was probably irrelevant. IMNSHO all the technical issues of fact about thermXte would be irrelevant.)

My guess would be, Harrits thermite BS would only be relevant in a court case against the US goverment for the destruction of wtc. Of course in the real world no such thing exists. This would confirm Harrit is a nut job.

Two court cases for Harrit this year TV licience evasion and Defamation = thermite = NUTTER
 
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My guess would be, Harrits thermite BS would only be relevant in a court case against the US goverment for the destruction of wtc....
Could be. Two obvious problems from a legal perspective:
1) The threshold issues of how action is initiated against the US Government PLUS what standing would Harrit have in such a proceeding;

THEN (If somehow it does get to be heard)

2) The same procedural problem we saw in Orphia and my recent posts. The court may not reach the stage of considering "thermXte" let alone "thermXte in dust".

The reason it may not get that far is that the "arse about logic" we tolerate here from truthers would not be accepted in a court. So the first step would be to prove CD THEN possibly the part played by thermXte could come into consideration. The truthers standard debating ploy of false logic would not survive in court. ThermXte doesn't prove CD; free fall doesn't prove CD, loud banging noises don't prove CD etc down the list of truther single issues put as claims without context. Absolutely independent of whether or not those allegations are true. In a court the sequence would be (1) set context FIRST then (2) add in details. Without a legitimising context the details are irrelevant. And would be objected to as irrelevant by the opposing side.

We are so accustomed to letting truthers get away with procedural nonsense that we forget that "truther logic" is:
A) Backwards;
B) Bereft of any coherent hypothesis; AND
C) Relies on the triple failures of (i) reversed burden of proof to (ii) prove a negative which is (iii) a moving goalpost. All three not merely fatal in court - they would not be tolerated - esp the "reversed burden". Any lawyer trying that trick would get short shrift from the Bench.
 
The fun answer is "Yes - it certainly looks like it."

The strict legal position is not clear to me at this time.

We don't know if the issue of defining "idiocy" ("tosse" or similar IIRC.) was considered by the court.

The variations on the theme are too many to speculate - so one example will have to suffice until we see the transcript. (If ever. :))

The argument could be that:

1) "idiots" was shown to be accepted by the relevant community as applying to 9/11 Conspiracy adherents; AND

2) that Harrit had by his own action aligned with those conspiracy adherents who are regarded as "idiots" by the relevant community; AND

3) that any damage to his reputation was caused by his own alignment with those who are known to be regarded as "idiots".

If those were the steps then the courts consideration of the facts would stop at that point. Harrit loses on basis of 1, 2 and 3. Particularly "3".

So the question of whether Harrit qualifies as an "idiot" would not even be looked at by the court. The issue remains moot.

In that event what could be said to be legally accepted was that he aligned with a class of persons who are commonly regarded as idiots. That does not make him an idiot nor does it imply that the court ruled that he was an idiot. (BTW nor does the court rule whether the conspiracy adherents are in fact idiots.)

There are multiple legal possibilities and speculation before we see the transcript could be way off the track.

(And every use of "idiot" or "idiocy" in this statement needs to be read as reference to the actual Danish word - "tosse" and derivatives as far as I amaware.)

My mother always warned me that I would be judged by the company I keep.
Maybe Mrs. Harrit did not mention that to her son, or he ignored the lesson.
 
According to one article, the judge reasoned that..
"After an overall assessment, Søren K. Villemoes' use of the term 'Niels Harrit and the other idiots from 9/11 skeptic environment', neither linguistic nor in the context of 'creationist plattenslageri' and 'Holocaust denier environment' is assumed to exceed the limits of freedom of expression. The defendants should be dismissed. "
 
According to one article, the judge reasoned that..
Thanks KDLarsen.

Us lawyer types who trained in Common Law jurisdictions will continue to be interested in the nuances of Danish law as revealed by this example.

I would wager that the phrase "After an overall assessment" subsumes a number of factors in some form of metric. Time may tell.
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Go figure, Harrit has appealed the decision to the High court. Apparenly he desperately want to pay more than $3000 in court costs... :rolleyes:
 
Go figure, Harrit has appealed the decision to the High court. Apparenly he desperately want to pay more than $3000 in court costs... :rolleyes:

Maybe someone is paying his legal fees (if he goes pro se) and feels the publicity is good no matter what the decision is because:

It brings people to look at his belief about 9/11 (where presumably they could be swayed by truther PR)

That's a lot less than running adds and producing new DVDs...

All publicity is considered valuable when you are into "attention" and these guys are a bit of attention whores.
 
Go figure, Harrit has appealed the decision to the High court. Apparenly he desperately want to pay more than $3000 in court costs... :rolleyes:

And he still won't get the chance to present his turd munching BS.

WFT has building 7 or 911 got to do with someone calling him a crank, apart from showing he is a crank.
 

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