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Religious figures reincarnated (Split from: Pope responds question from atheist)

ddt said:
Okay, fair enough.



I'll agree about the carpenter thing, as it is so entrenched in our culture. I don't agree to let slip the Nazareth thing. First of all, Sepphoris is still another town than Nazareth. But more importantly, Antipas didn't hold his court there at the time. After he constructed Tiberias before 26AD, on the shores of the See of Galilee, he moved his court there:

As noted before, the lower bound for his marriage with Herodias is 27AD, so his court already had moved by the time he married her.

So, amending my earlier list, we now have:
(1) As before.
(2) Antipas' court was not in Nazareth, nor even near Nazareth.
(3) Amended as minor quibble.
(4) As before.
(5) So the five younger children were Malthace's. No such children are attested. Her oldest child was Archelaus, who became ethnarch of Judaea, and was deposed by the Romans after the Jews sent two delegations to Rome to request for his deposing as he was such an atrocious ruler. She only had only one younger child than Antipas, viz. Olympias. Even if there were, they would be 30-40 years old and would be able to come and go were they wanted.
(6) Deleted.
(7) Deleted.
(8) It's still a bit unclear to me what Salome's role in this is. She was also in danger of being murdered by Herod Antipas? Anyway, there's no evidence at all that Salome left Antipas' court, nor that she "betrayed Mary". As we all know, Mary had a bit of an unnatural ending of her life, but not by being murdered by a wannabe king. :)
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Well, the seven errors I had in mind were:

(1) idem
(2) Antipas' court near Nazareth time intersection with Antipas' married with Herodias equals empty set
(4) idem
(5) along the same lines
(8) a young Salome and Mary the maid of Herodias is another imposibility.
(9) the plot of Malthace's children dissapearing like characters in And Then There Were None is quite ridiculous
(10) the dogs' behavioural changes once they had been fed the corpses of people they'd lived with is a loose variable in the story (most of all if they are the same dogs supposedly used in perverted sexual acts)

Anyway, I don't know if it is a Poe, but the link I provided in post #139 contains this text following the one I had transcribed:

This was the household Joseph and Mary lived in and raised their own six children, three sons and three daughters. Jesus, as an adult, his ministry established, felt confident enough to address the issue of the skeletons in the closet. This set off a new round of killings. Joseph died by falling, Mary poisoned, Jesus crucified, his siblings scattered. When finally the Romans initiated an investigation into the restlessness in the territories and Pilate’s handling of Jesus, specifically, a new round of cover-up and killings began.
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So, if it seemed to be The White Queen on acid, now it evokes Game of Thrones.
 
Back in my wooish days I did actually entertain the notion that there was a kind of superconsciousness with which every individual consciousness would, after death, fuse. So this superconsciousness would be an amalgam of every person who ever lived, and remember everything anyone had ever done. I think it was pondering how a torturer and his victims would get along as part of a single consciousness that convinced me this wasn't such a brilliant idea as it had appeared when it first occurred to me.
 
Funny, innit, that all these people sending messages to Kathie just happen to be famous folks with nothing all that new to say, rather than previously unknown entities with novel insights into Life, the Universe and Everything?

Essentially the message that's purportedly being transmitted is quite banal and probably also unfalsifiable. I'd be more impressed if I got a telepathic message that said "My name is not important, but pass the following along to Your brother at the cancer research lab..."
 
Astreja said:
Funny, innit, that all these people sending messages to Kathie just happen to be famous folks with nothing all that new to say, rather than previously unknown entities with novel insights into Life, the Universe and Everything?

Essentially the message that's purportedly being transmitted is quite banal and probably also unfalsifiable. I'd be more impressed if I got a telepathic message that said "My name is not important, but pass the following along to Your brother at the cancer research lab..."
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Perhaps Kathie could contact my late wife and ask her what she did with my handmade denim shirt.
 
aleCcowaN said:
This lady:

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is the reincarnation of Madame Curie -she makes better argument than Kathie's-, and she lives in this planet and not in Ganymede.
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I very much doubt that.
 
''Still, there were many things about being told that I was the reincarnation of Madame Curie that struck me odd. Being an avid fan of biographies, which really got me started with Numerology, I happen to own Madame Curie's biography as it was one of my childhood favorites. The book sits on my desk to this day with my many other favorite books.

I also could not help but pick up on the names in Madame Curie's actual life. My middle name is Marie and Madame Curie's name is Marie. My mother's name is Irene and Madame Curie named her daughter Irene. I even named my own daughter Greta Irene. ''


Hilarious!
 
''Enter Saturn in the 5th House:

The other night I was reading an Astrology Book with my personal Astrology Chart in hand and I happen to have Saturn in the 5th House.

And I quote: " Disciplined fifth house Saturn needs to learn how to relax and have a good time, and for this serious, responsible planet, that's not always easy. Because of its seriousness, Saturn's fifth house creativity is often channeled into scientific discovery: this is the placement of Madame Curie, for example."

Ok..now that was just plain freaky! ''

You couldn't make it up..... oh, wait a minute. And you think this is a better argument that Kathie's? Do me a favour!
 
dafydd said:
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You couldn't make it up..... oh, wait a minute. And you think this is a better argument that Kathie's? Do me a favour!
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It's better for the simple reason it exists. The same way 0.01 is greater than .001 when your goal is one billion. I want Kathie to reply what does she have that tops that argument. On the web, there are other wannabe reincarnations of characters quoted by Kathie and I want Kathie and them to sort out which is the 'real' one
 
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