Teens trash house while owner gone.

If you read the comments some of the kids posted on their Twitter accounts, the fact that what they were doing was wrong -- very wrong -- seems to have been the main attraction. That and getting drunk.

This was the age-old teen rebellion thing. Doing something wrong because I am here. And peer pressure is so intense at that age.

Only one kid showed up for the clean-up because most probably still don't give a crap. I think they should get community service. Preferably service that involves cleaning something feces-related. That oughta work! :cool:
 
newyorkguy said:
If you read the comments some of the kids posted on their Twitter accounts, the fact that what they were doing was wrong -- very wrong -- seems to have been the main attraction. That and getting drunk.

This was the age-old teen rebellion thing. Doing something wrong because I am here. And peer pressure is so intense at that age.

Only one kid showed up for the clean-up because most probably still don't give a crap. I think they should get community service. Preferably service that involves cleaning something feces-related. That oughta work! :cool:
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I don't know. I think if the Community service focuses on positive things, helping others, and make it about something more than punishment it is more likely to have a life long impact for the good.
 
Babbylonian said:
IMO all who can be identified from the films should be charged as adults, and would hopefully spend several months in prison.
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Sure. It's not like the US is already incarcerating more of its population per capita than any other nation in the world. Wait, it is?
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That might be considered an irrelevant statement.

Many people are currently in jail on simple drug-related charges. Loosen up on simple possession charges (Legalize possession of certain drugs, or at least turn the punishment into a fine) and you might see the number of criminals drop.

Ultimately though, the fact that there is a high incarceration rate should not be seen as a reason to let other people get away with crime.

Seriously, 300 people doing $20,000 in damage is obviously bad, but it's less than $100 damage per person.
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Really? Your argument is "It was only $100 per person"?

Since when did $100 become the threshold for allowable damage? Can I go throw a brick through your window if I can buy a new pane of glass for less than $100?

By the way, not sure how that $20,000 was calculated, but remember there's more at stake than just the cost to get stuff repaired. The police would likely be involved (even if they didn't investigate, they'd probably have to do some paperwork). The individual who's home got trashed will also spend days of his own time filing police reports, cleaning up, contacting insurance companies, etc.
 
We've forgotten the value of shame in our society, which these brats very badly need. Too bad Holloway doesn't have pictures of their parents to post as well.
 
If any of the threats from parents were criminal in nature, then those parents could be facing serious charges. If all of the 300 were teens, someone had to supply the alcohol, not to mention the drugs. Add in all the other violations, and there are going to be charges out the wazoo. Looking at the pictures the kids posted, these are not inner city, poverty-stricken, angry youths with nothing to do; they look like wealthy/upper middle class privileged brats who think they can do whatever they want. I hope the full weight of the law comes down on them and the parents. Sorry, no sympathy here.




They should count themselves lucky that they didn't break into Aaron Hernandez's house! :boxedin:
 
I don't think shame is a viable option in this case.

My sense is the parents -- probably unknowingly -- have passed along their sense of entitlement to their kids. I think that's what's behind the parents' anger at Holloway for publicly outing their little rug rats.

The parents probably feel, 'So what? It's a rite of passage. This guy earned millions playing a game. Oh boo hoo he has to spend some money to fix the house he doesn't even bother to live in most of the time.'

I think for the kids gradually the reality of what they did will sink in. Maybe by their time they're in their forties. :)
 
They should count themselves lucky that they didn't break into Aaron Hernandez's house!
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Why not, Ive heard it is unoccupied at the moment . . .
 
I saw something similar happen once when I was a teen. Another teen's parents went away for a week and left him in charge. He invited a bunch of freinds over for a party. Word got out and a lot more showed up. The host got drunk and passed out. Then things got "interesting."
 
The lesson is that if you own but do not always occupy a home, invest in a security device. Alarms would be mainstream, I guess. Personally, I'd prefer a murderous robot that runs on the blood of teenagers. That would not only prevent these situations but teach valuable lessons. Apparently today's youth are unaware of the cinematic masterpiece that was "Chopping Mall".
 
Babbylonian said:
Sure. It's not like the US is already incarcerating more of its population per capita than any other nation in the world. Wait, it is?

Seriously, 300 people doing $20,000 in damage is obviously bad, but it's less than $100 damage per person. Apart from potential recidivists, there's no justification for even fantasizing about such draconian punishment.
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Don't know the time, but the official charges in most places would/should be B&E/Burglary (depending on time of day) and conspiracy - and if the initiaters are not id'ed and testified against as needed by the others those should be applied to all and run through the court system. That way the court could nullify the prison time for all but those who set it up/went in first but it would be on the records of all.
 
calebprime said:
Teens trash house while owner gone! Doo dah, doo dah.
Barf in sink and pee on lawn! Oh the doo dah day.
Gonna drink all night!
Gonna drink all day!
Spend my money on jack n' kush
Something, something something [rhymes with "day"]
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Where's the "like" button? ;)
 
TragicMonkey said:
The lesson is that if you own but do not always occupy a home, invest in a security device. Alarms would be mainstream, I guess. Personally, I'd prefer a murderous robot that runs on the blood of teenagers. That would not only prevent these situations but teach valuable lessons. Apparently today's youth are unaware of the cinematic masterpiece that was "Chopping Mall".
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Or, this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
TragicMonkey said:
The lesson is that if you own but do not always occupy a home, invest in a security device. Alarms would be mainstream, I guess. Personally, I'd prefer a murderous robot that runs on the blood of teenagers. That would not only prevent these situations but teach valuable lessons.
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I'm afraid the only lesson these kids will learn is "Don't post evidence of your crimes on social media sites."
 
RenaissanceBiker said:
I saw something similar happen once when I was a teen. Another teen's parents went away for a week and left him in charge. He invited a bunch of freinds over for a party. Word got out and a lot more showed up. The host got drunk and passed out. Then things got "interesting."
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I went to a few of those parties 30+ years ago. There was often damage but I never saw anything disastrous. The worst was at one party someone stole a framed $5 bill. It was the dad's from his business, his first $5. There were cigarette burns on the grand piano, the plants outside were trampled, a broken lamp and someone threw up in one of the bedrooms. It was a friend of mine's house and I was amazed he didn't get grounded or anything. And his dad was on the Board of Ed.

Can't say I ever went to or even heard of a party where it was at a house that was broken into.
 
Don't jail the kids;but make them give a couple of weekends of really unplesent community service. Every community has lots of nasty, though not dangerous jobs that need doing.....
 
I notice that some people seem to have a allergic reaction at the idea that people should be held publically responsible for their actions.
 
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