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Cluesforum - How far will they go exactly

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Most of us know about the weird and wonderful Apollo and space theories on Cluesforum hence their 'cluelessforum' knickname. But having browsed on there just now it appears that even 'My Lai', 'Me Lie' as they see it and also the Kim Phuc photograph does not escape their expert analysis.

This is along with all the other VicSims that they are quite happy to call out.

My question is that is there any point where their nonsense will stop and a little sympathy let alone empathy creep in?
 
They will keep digging down until they're digging up - and will still be claiming that the Earth isn't round.
 
MinimumWageShill said:
Most of us know about the weird and wonderful Apollo and space theories on Cluesforum hence their 'cluelessforum' knickname. But having browsed on there just now it appears that even 'My Lai', 'Me Lie' as they see it and also the Kim Phuc photograph does not escape their expert analysis.

This is along with all the other VicSims that they are quite happy to call out.

My question is that is there any point where their nonsense will stop and a little sympathy let alone empathy creep in?
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They do see themselves as empathetic and compassionate. If someone did fake the moon landings in an effort to steal hundreds of millions of dollars, then that person does not deserve any respect or sympathy. There is no epithet that is too harsh for such a person. The CTers are not empathizing with the folks they accuse, they are empathizing with the public - the unwary and easily-fooled public. If one really sincerely believed that there were conspiracies all around us, then the compassionate thing to do would be to expose these conspiracies - perhaps even exposing them by any means necessary.


You cannot expect a positive response if you go to them and say "hey, you guys need to dial it down a bit because your unsupported assertions are harming innocent people." They believe the people they are harming are not innocent and therefore deserve any harm they get.


They believe that the public's right to know the truth trumps the
 
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I just wish they were flexible with their registration,Id love to go head to head(did it briefly a year ago until the inevitable ban).Id love some physics professor to to discuss rockets in a vacuum with them lol.
Literally everything is a false flag,how they exist in such a reality is amazing. Some of them I dquite happily inflict vioence on were I to meet them(sorry!)they come across as nasty vicious people.
 
Ladewig said:
They do see themselves as empathetic and compassionate. If someone did fake the moon landings in an effort to steal hundreds of millions of dollars, then that person does not deserve any respect or sympathy. There is no epithet that is too harsh for such a person. The CTers are not empathizing with the folks they accuse, they are empathizing with the public - the unwary and easily-fooled public. If one really sincerely believed that there were conspiracies all around us, then the compassionate thing to do would be to expose these conspiracies - perhaps even exposing them by any means necessary.


You cannot expect a positive response if you go to them and say "hey, you guys need to dial it down a bit because your unsupported assertions are harming innocent people." They believe the people they are harming are not innocent and therefore deserve any harm they get.


They believe that the public's right to know the truth trumps the
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This would indeed be a noble service they provide, were not provided with such arrogance, patronising condescension and ignorant stupidity.
 
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I find their forum fascinating but there is one thread I will not look at again. Their shameless and disgusting dismissal of Gabby Gifford's injuries and the deaths of 6 members of my community just makes me too angry to read it. I usually won't read 9/11 threads either.

How far will they go? As far as they want. Nothing is off the table. SimonShack is currently reorganizing the galaxy to be geocentric to enthusiastic applause and humbling naming it after himself. They use numerology, anagrams, bible code, some dubious photo analysis website, and a host of other "tools" to expose everything as being fake. Yesterday a user posted pictures from a friends fb page of the scene outside the Naval yard and they jumped on them calling them fake within one post. Someone else cited "urban dictionary" as a source.

I would love for Heiwa or Simon to be involved in a mass casualty incident as eyewitnesses and watch everyone else accuse them of being paid shills. Heck if they could at least watch a rocket launch I would be happy.

I have yet to allowed to post there but maybe I'll try again.
 
Biscuit said:
Their shameless and disgusting dismissal of Gabby Gifford's injuries and the deaths of 6 members of my community just makes me too angry to read it.
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Yeah, and if they're going after Kim Phuc as a "vicsim," I'm too angry to read that. She's been through enough!

Incidentally, though, if people have only seen the horrific napalm photograph, it is worth searching for pictures of her in more recent times with her husband and children. Her recovery is inspiring.
 
threadworm said:
This would indeed be a noble service they provide, were not provided with such arrogance, patronising condescension and ignorant stupidity.
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Ignorance I can forgive to a point. Stupidity I can also forgive to a point. It is their willful ignorance that I find so contemptible.
 
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Literally everything is a false flag,how they exist in such a reality is amazing. Some of them I quite happily inflict violence on were I to meet them(sorry!)they come across as nasty vicious people.
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I could not resort to violence in a situation such as that. On the other hand, if I were standing behind you (or Buzz Aldrin) and I saw you winding up for a right hook, I would not feel compelled to grab your arm.
 
Ladewig said:
Ignorance I can forgive to a point. Stupidity I can also forgive to a point. It is their willful ignorance that I find so contemptible.
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And 'willful' is the key word. It is one thing not to know the facts of how rockets work, or what happened on 9/11. It is quite another to vehemently and disdainfully reject those facts when they are presented to you.
 
Heiwa, are you standing by the idea that the Costa Concordia was some kind of real socio-political event/disaster with no photoshop skullduggery involved?
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Yeah, I'm with hoi. It's just a little hard to believe that something actually happened in this world.

There's a limit to the kind of craziness Cluesforum will accept, and "unplanned stuff happens" is way, way beyond the limit.

Now, are they really empathic, caring people? Not really. Oh, they give a little lip service to saving the world from the scheming overlords, but you can see that what really gets them up in the morning is the self-delusion that they're quite clever; they've pierced the veil and seen the truth.

Of course, from their perspective, when they post nonsense about how Jeff Bauman is an actor paid to play a role, they aren't hurting Bauman's feelings, because he's not real. And similarly for all of the other victims and their families for every tragedy and event in the last decade or so. None of it is real, so talking about these events in a mocking tone is harmless.

But honestly, their stunningly misplaced arrogance is the reason for the site. They fall all over each other to be first to point out that some shadow doesn't look like they think it should, so I'm a winner!

In fact, take away some of their egotism and I might feel some pity for such stupid people. But I don't.
 
I'm waiting for the day that cluesforum speculates that cluesforum itself might be a hoax.
 
Travis said:
I'm waiting for the day that cluesforum speculates that cluesforum itself might be a hoax.
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It would give me comfort to think that. Because the thought that there are such stupid people in the world is kindy scary.
 
Biscuit said:
*snip* They use numerology, anagrams, bible code, some dubious photo analysis website, and a host of other "tools" to expose everything as being fake. *snip*
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Not to mention blue stripes! This puzled me for a while,but Im assuming-unconformed-it's due to Israel flag having blues stripes? Of course everything is the fault of Jews.:rolleyes:
 
The answer is simple. If you are able to post on the discussion, or any disscussion of VicSims, False Flags, etc, please post to inform them that your thoughts and feelings are with the families for whom the events are all too real. Even those who believe the events, the victims, and anything else was cut from whole cloth should be reminded that for entire communities such things are all too real.

Ask others to post that they too offer their sympathy to those coping with tragic news. Even those who-no, ESPECIALLY- those who happen to also believe in the CT, or cling to the possibility of the CT as some form of coping mechanism. Not everybody who believes in a CT happens to be morally bankrupt.
 
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Not to mention blue stripes! This puzled me for a while,but Im assuming-unconformed-it's due to Israel flag having blues stripes? Of course everything is the fault of Jews.:rolleyes:
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An Israeli flag at the finish line for the Boston marathon was a dead give away that it was a zionist plot. Of course they ignored that there was a flag from every country represented.
 
The more I see that site the more I think it has been created by the dastardly NWO to attract the conspiracy loons to a tiny corner of the Internet. SimonShack could himself be a 'Shill' with the intention of making the CTs look as insane as possible - not that it is needed.
 
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