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Religious figures reincarnated (Split from: Pope responds question from atheist)

I read someplace that there are people with claims and experiences in similar vein, except they don't use psychology and history, but technology. Namely laptops and external speakers.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
I have identified the Higgs particle in 2008, included my sketch of it in my book I obtained the copyright for in 2010, and bingo, experimental scientists in Geneva in 2013 identified it as the God particle.
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No scientists ever called the Higgs-Boson the "God Particle". The name came from the title of a popular science book published in 1993. (The particle was first proposed in 1964 and extensive practical searches for it started at CERN in the 1990s; your 2008 sketch was far from being the first.) The author, a scientist involved in the search for the Higgs-Boson particle, had wanted the title to be "The Goddammed Particle" on account of the difficulty in finding it, but the nervous publishers decided to take out the 'd' word. And so a nickname was born.
In my book I am describing the Higgs as the "little Higgs that can", because this is the particle with the ability to move from one universe to the other. As the physical body disintegrates at death the bond breaks and the Higgs moves over. Obviously, it must carry memories with it because Jesus now over there is able to talk about his life on Earth 2000 years ago, or about his life as Francis or his most recent life as a sexually abused little boy trapped in a nasty place.
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Obviously? It's not at all obvious. We have a very good idea of how memories are encoded in groups of brain cells;please explain how they can similarly be a) coherently encoded in subatomic particles and b) retrieved and re-encoded into groups of brain cells. You shouldn't find that impossibly difficult, given your extensive knowledge of physics.
Sorry, but quoting somebody who is claiming to be a reincarnated Jesus is not proof.
 
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Craig B said:
Probably he has been reincarnated as a geneverbrander. That stuff is a crime against humanity.
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No, it can be worse. You can adapt the original stuff in such a way that it reeks like a bad cologne. :D

(FWIW, I vastly prefer whisky over either jenever or gin).
 
Give the Creator some credit. His system is a little more complicated and human beings are not on top of the chain. In terms of evolution on Earth, yes, but in terms of the universe, we are minute players.
Adam and Eve are a myth, you and I did not start out as human beings and when the cycle of life on Earth is completed for each of us, we become something else, elsewhere. A novel idea for you perhaps, but don't knock it until you are quite familiar with the concept.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
And above all else, not to think
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Wait, what? Are you saying your method of comprehension or reincarnation requires you not to think? I'm not sure how not thinking is even possible, but assuming for the nonce it is, doesn't that make a mockery of the entire concept of comprehension and understanding?

This is a bizarre thread.

ETA: Okay, it looks like I misunderstood based on your next post just above this one. But color me still confused.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
They did it, not my fault. I do not think it was meant in a religious sense, though.
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To whom are you replying?

You can click the "quote" button on the bottom right to quote whatever post you're responding to. That makes it easier for everyone to follow the discussion.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :)
 
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They probably have reincarnated too, like everyone else around here, including you and I and yes, animals too. There is a method of identifying past lives, which happens to be the basis of this eminent discussion here
 
Kathie Bondar said:
You have not read my book so how could you tell if my ideas are supported or not.
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Because if your ideas were supported scientifically, we'd be reading about them in peer-reviewed journals.

The book might come after being lauded for your discoveries perhaps.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
Give the Creator some credit. His system is a little more complicated and human beings are not on top of the chain. In terms of evolution on Earth, yes, but in terms of the universe, we are minute players.
Adam and Eve are a myth, you and I did not start out as human beings and when the cycle of life on Earth is completed for each of us, we become something else, elsewhere. A novel idea for you perhaps, but don't knock it until you are quite familiar with the concept.
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We are already familiar with the realms of fantasy. Which god are you talking about when you refer to 'The Creator'?
 
Kathie Bondar said:
It is so easy to come up with tiny snappy answers, it saves one from having to think
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My crystal ball tells me you're just going for post count now, and it also tells me you're doing it just to post web links to your "book" and other baloney related to reincarnations and other stupid notions that you want to sell.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
You are right. People move away from religion because it does not make much sense. Explain God in clear, concise terms and people will listen. Come to think of it, this is exactly what I am trying to do and I am being ridiculed. I think it is called resistance.
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This is no chat room. Your posts in the other thread were you tried to muscle in this reincarnation thingy were moved here into an independent thread. Don't continue your chat there, specially if you're going to talk just about yourself.

Being a septuagenarian doesn't excuse you from using internet technology and rules in a correct manner. If you don't know it, don't do it. But you had anyway to invent the drift of "Jesus' soul" and Hollywood-like stories of priests banging modern avatars of him and killing him. So, you have shown no scruple in defiling religious beliefs, sciences and disciplines to tell everybody can learn to write stories equally worth of a Hollywood C movie, while you get some benefit for your purse or ego.

If you haven't noticed yet, in forums.randi.org you are going to be roasted any time you tell a story that roots in epistemological hedonism and narcissism and grossly fail to comply with logic rules and evidence rules.

Reincarnations don't exist at all. Reincarnation, as well as paradise, is a cultural invention to take advantage -in different cultural and historical contexts- of people modifying their present behaviour and/or perception because they are given a check that only can be cashed in a imaginary reality that is divorced from their actual existence.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
They probably have reincarnated too, like everyone else around here, including you and I and yes, animals too. There is a method of identifying past lives, which happens to be the basis of this eminent discussion here
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What is this method? You have not told us. I have asked how you do this, but you have not responded. I am very suspicious of the validity of your method because it allegedly enables you to do a very difficult thing that I can't verify, I.e. show that Jesus' mother was the same person as Joshua's father; but it doesn't help you to do a very simple thing, which I can verify, I.e. find out in what century St Francis was born.

Imagine your friend has a computer. It gives strange answers to very complicated mathematical problems which nobody could work out in their head. So you decide to check its accuracy by asking it to add two and two. It replies, seven. What would you think of that?

So please tell me how you know that the Virgin Mary, and animals, get themselves reincarnated, and how you follow these reincarnations from one life to the next.
 
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