Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

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Northern Lights said:
..The current identified large and medium carnivores in northern Minnesota are black bear, mountain lion, wolf, coyote, fisher, fox, lynx and bobcat.
Two questions:
1. Does this appear to be spiral fractures?
2. If yes, what species in the above list uses that method for killing deer?...
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Do you exclude the possibility of an accident? Accidents happen to animals too, especially when they panic:
http://blog.pennlive.com/lehighvalley/2007/06/deers_romp_ends_with_three_gun.html
(warning, sad story inside)

ETA: BTW, animals can have spiral fractures. That's not extraordinary:
http://oaklandsanimals.org/2007/12/28/brianna-has-had-a-rough-road-to-follow/
...she (the dog) jumped for a ball and landed wrong on her front, right leg. Once x-rayed, we found Brianna had a spiral fracture that required surgery to repair her leg...
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Northern Lights said:
Just to be clear, I'm not making any claims as to what killed this deer.
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Oh this is just patently dishonest. You're a known, claimed Figbooter posting in a thread called "Latest Bigfoot Evidence" with the bog standard "I'm not saying... I'm just saying" rhetorical trickery.
 
Now hold on just a cottin' pickin' minute!

How did you find deer bones in the woods when all 'footers know it's impossible to find animal bones in the woods???

I don't think you found those bones. I think you killed the animal, broke the bone, and photographed it in your back yard.
 
Northern Lights said:
Two questions:
1. Does this appear to be spiral fractures?
2. If yes, what species in the above list uses that method for killing deer?

Just to be clear, I'm not making any claims as to what killed this deer. I do not know and was not there when it happened. I am simply posing questions and am truly interested in reading the responses.
Thank you.
NL
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How old were the bones? How do you know the break is related to the actual death? Many predators and scavengers will twist bone to pop it from the joint. A broken bone like that would probably happen after the fact, after it dried out, or the marrow was removed. A wolf has 1500 PSI in it's bite and could have easily done this or it could be related to weathering and decay in my inexpert opinion.
 
Northern Lights said:
...The current identified large and medium carnivores in northern Minnesota are black bear, mountain lion, wolf, coyote, fisher, fox, lynx and bobcat.

Two questions:
1. Does this appear to be spiral fractures?
2. If yes, what species in the above list uses that method for killing deer?

Just to be clear, I'm not making any claims as to what killed this deer. I do not know and was not there when it happened. I am simply posing questions and am truly interested in reading the responses.
Thank you.
NL
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It wasn't a wood ape. Bigfoot rips the spine out of it's prey, or, skins them alive. The skull is kept as a trophy. So, not bigfoot.
 
Wait...

Bigfoot tear the spine out of their prey.

Predators tear the spine out of their prey.

Kevin Peter Hall played the Predator in the first two movies.

He also played Bigfoot in Harry and the Henderson.

So the only logical explanation is... Bigfoot is an intergalactic Bounty Hunter.
 
Bigfoot bashes it's prey to death with fists, or smashes it against a tree, according to several Class A reports. Bigfoot also carries it's prey away from the kill site to a secret place. So there's little chance of finding a bigfoot kill and one certainly wouldn't be out in the open.
 
JoeBentley said:
Wait...

Bigfoot tear the spine out of their prey.

Predators tear the spine out of their prey.

Kevin Peter Hall played the Predator in the first two movies.

He also played Bigfoot in Harry and the Henderson.

So the only logical explanation is... Bigfoot is an intergalactic Bounty Hunter.
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Or indeed, a man in a monster costume.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Bigfoot bashes it's prey to death with fists, or smashes it against a tree, according to several Class A reports. Bigfoot also carries it's prey away from the kill site to a secret place. So there's little chance of finding a bigfoot kill and one certainly wouldn't be out in the open.
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If there were such things...
 
Yep I can see that.
Thanks

Bigfoot likes to twist the long bones, twist the long bones, twist them til they break.

The paper I linked to yesterday, says that spiral fractures in the long bones occur in a percentage of wolf kills. bears and wolves crack the bones to get at the marrow.
 
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No bigfoot. That's the work of a werewolf. You folks are confusing bigfoots with werewolves. Aint no bigfoots, but werewolves. Bigfoots are not real, werewoves are.

Make sure to have some silver bullets loaded at your gun whenever you get back there.
 
One interesting observation is that in general when Bigfoot Knowers are here posting on JREF they do not talk about each others encounters. They engage the skeptics but not each other.
 
I wonder if a Bigfoot story sounds sillier, to a Bigfooter, when it is in a forum where everyone isn't patting the storyteller on the back, telling them about THEIR encounter with Bigfoot near a freeway overpass.
 
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William Parcher said:
One interesting observation is that in general when Bigfoot Knowers are here posting on JREF they do not talk about each others encounters. They engage the skeptics but not each other.
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You're the one posting pictures claiming it was the work of bigfoot. You are either delusional or living in a fantasy world of denial.

Any logical, level headed person can see that the bones were broken in a manner consistent with only one creature, a Chupacabra!

Go ahead prove to me that it wasn't a chupacabra. Take your time, I am a very patient person.
 
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