What if we had $50 million for a new investigation?

[Justin39640]

[Gage]"If we had $50 million for a new investigation, we could spread the truth to every corner of the Earth and everywhere else in between, so we can demand a new investigation!"[/Gage]

 

[JSanderO]

That's $50MM to his organization for PR. hahahaha...

 

[ozeco41]

Surely Truthers will do better in this thread than in the one where I agree there was melted steel but wanted to know what it meant.

They wont and I'm sure you know the reasons BUT the main ones are:
1) Few, if any, truthers can think clearly at the level needed to analyse or comprehend 9/11 issues even when explanations are spoon fed. That includes a lack of ability to process a "What if?"enquiry based on acceptance of a moot point. They are strictly "one point at a time 'thinkers'";
2) Most are well aware, now in 2013, that there is no substance in the big technical claims (CD times 3, noplane, shot down) so they cannot afford to engage in clear thinking OR reasoned discussion - either of which quickly reveals the falseness of their claims; AND
3) Most of "them" posting here are not truthers and their main activity is trolling. So treating their posts as if they are rationally supportable truth seeking discussion is a futile waste of effort. And that is the fault of debunkers who feed the trolling and misdefine those doing it as "truthers". They aren't.

 

[Fonebone]

Such a black hole of stupid, where no sense can escape from, could potentially destroy the universe.

I really wish we had a thread here reserved solely for truthers to post in.

We do ! We do ! In fact we have a whole forum just for truthers.
The JREF sceptic tank... where genuine sceptics and truth seekers threads
reside. A.K.A. known as AAH (Abandon All Hope )
The forum can only be viewed by JREF members
effectively insulating all lurkers from being tainted by the evidence the truthers unearth.
Effective truthers of course are promoted to the JREF "outside club"
(BANNED).

Extra credit- When perusing old 911 threads take special note of all of the truth seekers
that select the custom title of "Banned"

 

[Fonebone]

Now now you cynics. We have all these Truthers talking all the time about a new investigation. Surely they have given some thought as to how it will be conducted provided there were funds to make it so. I'm just hoping some of them will share with me their plans so I can start budgeting appropriately.

Come on Truthers tell me how to spend the money.

Here is one constructive use for part of your 50 million dollar fund.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7626850#post7626850

 

[beachnut]

Here is one constructive use for part of your 50 million dollar fund.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7626850#post7626850

Upset 911 truth has failed for 12 years?

There is a third alternative-
--and--
the principles are as American as apple pie !

An American terrorist and notorious revolutionary will 'splain it to you :

Thomas Jefferson would not fall for the lies of 911 truth.

No 911 truth follower will understand a new investigation; a waste of 50 million.

When 911 truth has to quote famous people, they have found their evidence bag is empty. 50 million would not help fill that bag of woo.

The banned 911 truthers were upset, they can't handle it when their fantasy is called nonsense. Not a surprise people who believe in dumb delusions 911 truth has, not surprised they can't obey simple rules.

Maybe we could use the 50 million to teach etiquette to a fringe few 911 truthers who can't figure out 911 given 12 years. Anti-banning training.

 

[Myriad]

Extra credit- When perusing old 911 threads take special note of all of the truth seekers
that select the custom title of "Banned"

Keeping in mind, of course, that most of them are the same two or three Truthers, over and over again.

 

[LSSBB]

Keeping in mind, of course, that most of them are the same two or three Truthers, over and over again.

There is a healthy selection of banned debunkers also.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Here is one constructive use for part of your 50 million dollar fund.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7626850#post7626850

Aw, I thought it was going to be a link to this:

The "nose-out" videos are genuine and a valuable clue as to the identity of the flying object
disguised as a jumbo jet that struck the WTC 2 south tower.
Correctly identify the flying object will instantly indentify the
as yet unknown conspiritors in this murderous plot against America
and her inalienable liberties
The flying object was real but was NOT a Boeing 767 Jumbo jet or a CGI illusion concocted by
Hollywoodesque miscreants.
The screaming jet engine powered flying object that penetrated the WTC 2
south wall was a 21 st. century " flying pig " cleverly concealed inside of
the gut of a hollowed out miniature scale model of a Boeing 767 jumbo jet
utilized to cloak the missile.
The flying pig's nose passed completely through the steel box column exterior
and exited the WTC 2tower at the North-East bevel before the flying pig's payload of advanced blast incindiary munitions was ignited.
The mimiature turbo-fan jet engine that propelled the flying pig cloaked as a
miniature "jumbojet" was found at the corner of Broadway and Murray st.
Compare this miniature turbo-fan jet engine to the WTC 1 flying pig sun bathing
in front of grown men at the Staten Island lanffill. Folding chair holding barricate tape
scales the engine size.

The fact of the flying pigs "bunker-buster " nose surviving both entrance and exit through the structural
steel exteriors of the WTC tower betrays the plot.
Technologically speaking the flying pig of the early 19 th. century was the great grandaddy
of modern flying pigs --21 st century CRUISE MISSILES.

 

[triforcharity]

Hookers and blow. Not more productive, but a hell of a lot more fun.

Ok, now that was funny!!

 

[Fonebone]

Aw, I thought it was going to be a link to this:

Step up to the plate slick....
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6731589#post6731589

 

[LSSBB]

Step up to the plate slick....
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6731589#post6731589

Wow, pictures of a plane hitting the WTC.

Next.

 

[Jetblast]

Suppose I was an eccentric billionaire. Perhaps for my own amusement I decide to set aside fifty million dollars for the all brand new Truther led investigation into the September 11th attacks that will obviate the hundreds of prior investigations that they don't like.

So the money is there waiting to be spent. How should I spend it?

Who can I hire and not have the Truthers claim they are poisoning the investigation from within?

What evidence can I use that won't be claimed to be faked or tainted later on?

What witnesses can be sourced that won't be claimed to be misled or plants later on?

I am all for spending all that money on this I just want to be sure it will be done to the satisfaction of the Truth Movement so that there will be no need to discredit it later. So how do I do it?

I made a post saying the money should be directed towards investigating the suppression of FBI agent Coleen Rowley via stand down orders. Someone complained it was off-topic, reported it and it was removed. I protest this. I think the post was entirely on-topic and answered the question in the original post. The question was "How should I spend it?" I gave a perfectly on-topic reasonable answer to that question that was unfairly removed in my opinion.

Furthermore, investigation of the allegations in Peter Lance's book 'Cover-Up' where FBI had pre-knowledge of Khalid Sheik Mohammed planning attacks using airliners should also be thoroughly scrutinized in relation to 9-11.

I believe the real evidence is more clearly seen in the circumstantial evidence surrounding the handling of the Al Qaeda suicide pilots. The operation was similar to Operation Northwoods, a documented and established government conspiracy, as precedent.

 

[DGM]

I made a post saying the money should be directed towards investigating the suppression of FBI agent Coleen Rowley via stand down orders. Someone complained it was off-topic, reported it and it was removed. I protest this. I think the post was entirely on-topic and answered the question in the original post. The question was "How should I spend it?" I gave a perfectly on-topic reasonable answer to that question that was unfairly removed in my opinion.

Furthermore, investigation of the allegations in Peter Lance's book 'Cover-Up' where FBI had pre-knowledge of Khalid Sheik Mohammed planning attacks using airliners should also be thoroughly scrutinized in relation to 9-11.

I believe the real evidence is more clearly seen in the circumstantial evidence surrounding the handling of the Al Qaeda suicide pilots. The operation was similar to Operation Northwoods, a documented and established government conspiracy, as precedent.

You missed the point.

It's about the investigation itself not the individual topics to be investigated.

Take your suggestion and tell us who will investigate and how. That would be on topic.

Understand?

 

[Fonebone]

Wow, pictures of a plane hitting the WTC.

Next.

OK
I''ll squeeze you into the lineup directly following the ape.

 

[LSSBB]

OK
I''ll squeeze you into the lineup directly following the ape.

What's your plan for Travis' $50 mil?

 

[beachnut]

Here is one constructive use for part of your 50 million dollar fund.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7626850#post7626850

Wow, it was Flight 175, proved by RADAR, and denied by some moronic 911 truth fantasy that debris is a nose. Can't get dumber.

I will take the 50 million on this issue, using RADAR as proof that 175 and the passengers were murdered by terrorists; the ones you can't figure out given 12 years. 50 million will never solve the ignorance issue 911 truth followers have - they will have to gain knowledge and logic skills on their own.

Already proved, but you would want to waste time on something RADAR proves. Is that your big one? Almost as bad as the Northwoods stuff by jetblast.

I will take the 50 million to prove my point, I already have the RADAR data. From take off to impact, it was 175. Too bad 911 truth can't connect the dots given the evidence and 12 years to think about it. 50 million can't help those few fringe who post nonsense like this.

 

[Myriad]

Okay, after fully investigating Fonebone's ridiculous "missile nose" claims, what should the investigators do with the other $49,999,999.50?

 

[catsmate]

Aw, I thought it was going to be a link to this:

I remember that.

<snippage>The operation was similar to Operation Northwoods, a documented and established government conspiracy, as precedent.

Why waste money investigating puerile fantasies?
Oh and you obviously don't know anything about Northwoods.

Okay, after fully investigating Fonebone's ridiculous "missile nose" claims, what should the investigators do with the other $49,999,999.50?

Lunch.

 

[Robrob]

Furthermore, investigation of the allegations in Peter Lance's book 'Cover-Up' where FBI had pre-knowledge of Khalid Sheik Mohammed planning attacks using airliners should also be thoroughly scrutinized in relation to 9-11.

So you're of the LIHOP persuasion rather than the MIHOP crowd?

I believe the real evidence is more clearly seen in the circumstantial evidence surrounding the handling of the Al Qaeda suicide pilots. The operation was similar to Operation Northwoods, a documented and established government conspiracy, as precedent.

1) It's a CT meme, if they can't prove something by facts and evidence - point to imagined "flaws" with the investigation as evidence of the (unproven) cover-up.

2) Your citing of Northwoods tells me you have no idea what you are talking about. Please feel free to elaborate.