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Native American myths/traditions support Bigfoot? A critical look.

What was the N/A word for a creature that doesn't exist? Or a creature that others say exists but does not? How did they go about demonstrating how to tell a real thing from not real? What was their word for critical thinking or for rationality?
 
Mister Earl said:
You're seriously accusing others of Zeal? Do you have no mirrors in your home?

Reality check, mate. You're trying to say that legends in other cultures are a mythological animal, and you're basing that purely off of personal preference and wishful thinking, given you have no actual bigfoot and have no way of knowing what specifically a bigfoot is or what it does. How do you know it doesn't burrow and live its entire life under ground? How do you know it's not purely a quadruped? You don't, because nobody has ever had one to study, and likely never will.

Your entire argument is wishful thinking and personal preference. Reality has no part of it. And you're fueling your entire argument with nothing but zeal.

So, please. We're trying to be kind here. There's no cause for you to carry that armload of rocks into that glass house.
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The spin in this post is dizzying.
 
Actually it's only an opinion that Bluegill is underwater panther because it certainly could have been Cadborosaurus. Cryptozoologists who have seen it and are Caddy knowers might say that. They are entitled to their opinions. It all just comes down to opinions as you say.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
The spin in this post is dizzying.
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Rationalize it however you want. People have been hunting bigfoot for how many years now? And what results have you got? Laughable foot casts, ridiculous stories that never hold up to scrutiny, and a pack of people who run on the bigfoot hunt on not evidence or scientific rigor, but belief.

The bigfoot hunt is consistent only in its complete failure. But feel free at any time to show me the monkey. I'll be here, not holding my breath.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
If you had actually researched, you would have found "hobbit" is the nickname given to Homo floresiensis. Please don't let your zeal to attack get ahead of your ability to do so.
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Oh, did my repeated references to Indonesia sail over your head? Or are you just now doing research on H. floriensis and have yet to discover they were Indonesian?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Did it ever occur to you that your conclusions may be wrong? About a great many things.
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Hillarious. You claim to have "sightings" to support your fantasy but then refuse to discuss your "sightings" to support your claim and this is somehow our fault you can't support your claim?

Not the first time a CT has played this game.
:rolleyes:
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I wouldn't place much effort on a saber tooth cat investigation either, but heck, some locals in South Africa I believe were eating fish that were thought to have been extinct since the dinosaur, the coelacanth. So who knows? I think Arthur C Clarke put it best when he said something to the effect that unknown creatures are often very well known by locals and often eaten by locals as well.
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Oh yeah, the Coelacanth. We thought it was extinct but it wasn't. That would allow Underwater Panther to possibly be Rodhocetus or Pakicetus. How could we prove it wasn't? Indians couldn't know they were looking at a whale ancestor any more than the African locals knew about the significance of the fossil fish that they ate. If Clarke were alive he might wonder if the Salish tribe was dining on Rodho not very long ago, eh?
 
Chris, where are the stories of N/A who were Bigfoot hoaxers? Presuming it exists and their knowers knew it we would also expect hoaxers. Or is Bigfoot hoaxing just a recent white person invention while the Indians were seriously honest straight-shooters?

I wonder if they thought bears were Bigfoot hoaxers sorta like Coyote was a trickster. Is their name for bear something like hairy stink whopper who tries to look like Bigfoot?

It's all so interesting, eh?
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
I guess if I were investigating the myths of the "Underwater Panther" I'd start by tracing this story back to its roots if possible. If the tribes that first coined the term were Atlantic or Pacific coast based for example, I'd likely look into any stories possibly concerning sharks. Remember "Elk Dogs"?

I wouldn't place much effort on a saber tooth cat investigation either, but heck, some locals in South Africa I believe were eating fish that were thought to have been extinct since the dinosaur, the coelacanth. So who knows? I think Arthur C Clarke put it best when he said something to the effect that unknown creatures are often very well known by locals and often eaten by locals as well.
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1`. Catch a Bigfoot.

2. ????

3. Profit.
 
William Parcher said:
Chris, where are the stories of N/A who were Bigfoot hoaxers? Presuming it exists and their knowers knew it we would also expect hoaxers. Or is Bigfoot hoaxing just a recent white person invention while the Indians were seriously honest straight-shooters?

I wonder if they thought bears were Bigfoot hoaxers sorta like Coyote was a trickster. Is their name for bear something like hairy stink whopper who tries to look like Bigfoot?

It's all so interesting, eh?
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Why grill me on Native American mysteries and legends? I have no idea if Native Americans hoaxed or not.

I only have knowledge of one tribe and that's certainly not enough experience to dive into speculation of the many.

Many NA stories are interesting though.
 
William Parcher said:
Oh yeah, the Coelacanth. We thought it was extinct but it wasn't. That would allow Underwater Panther to possibly be Rodhocetus or Pakicetus. How could we prove it wasn't? Indians couldn't know they were looking at a whale ancestor any more than the African locals knew about the significance of the fossil fish that they ate. If Clarke were alive he might wonder if the Salish tribe was dining on Rodho not very long ago, eh?
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I wouldn't make giant leaps declaring we should be finding lake monsters because the coelacanth still survives today.

But it does impress on me that we may not know as much as we think we do.

Clarke was a great thinker. I loved his shows "Mysterious World". As much as I like him, he was a highly skeptical individual. So I doubt he would have put much faith in a pizza eating Salish Indian.

I had to look up "Rodho" as that's a new one on me. From what I understand it's a pizza joint. Thank you for the intro.
 
Robrob said:
Hillarious. You claim to have "sightings" to support your fantasy but then refuse to discuss your "sightings" to support your claim and this is somehow our fault you can't support your claim?

Not the first time a CT has played this game.
:rolleyes:
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My sightings support my knowledge and understanding. There's absolutely no need to discuss them because they won't do flip for you.

I've been to the rodeo before too, nice horses.
 
Vortigern99 said:
Oh, did my repeated references to Indonesia sail over your head? Or are you just now doing research on H. floriensis and have yet to discover they were Indonesian?
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I did learn a new word today "Rodho" from what I understand it's a pizza place. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong of course..
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I wouldn't make giant leaps declaring we should be finding lake monsters because the coelacanth still survives today.

But it does impress on me that we may not know as much as we think we do.
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But we do know quite a bit. For instance, large mammals in North America leave a great deal of evidence as to their existence. We exploited many of them to near extirpation and a number beyond. Yet some would have us believe that the largest of these leave not a trace.

That of course is bull **** and no amount of red herrings tossed on the path will confound that fact. Campfire stories and boogeyman legends don't count for much in the glaring reality of lack of monkey.
 
Rodho = Rodhocetus = Underwater Panther = we can't prove it isn't the true source of the story.

PS: Rodho has fossils unlike Bigfoot.
 
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